confusion...

[maurer172]

(This isn't really the right group for the question) in O-flights, where is the line drawn between "hands on instructor" and innappropriate?

[RogueLeader]

Depends on details. Best to take it up with your unit, not on the internet.

[Duke Dillio]

CAPR 60-1, para 2-2(h):

"Except for flight instruction or during CAP check rides, only a qualified CAP pilot may handle the controls below 1,000 ft AGL. Orientation flights are not flight instruction. PICs on orientation flights must handle the controls below 1,000 ft AGL."

I think that is the correct cite.

[RogueLeader]

I am assuming by the phrasing, that it is physical contact.  Again, needs to be taken up with the CoC.

[Duke Dillio]

I'm almost more confused actually now that I think about it.  I am not a pilot so I can only cite what the regs say.  Perhaps rephrasing your question might help us get to the answer that you seek.

[RogueLeader]

It was the inappropriate that clued me to that it wasn't a reg issue.

[maurer172]

RougeLeader has the right concept...

[RogueLeader]

Pm sent.

[a2capt]

by right group I gather you mean "right sub forum/topic/heading/whatever" and not "people that I should be asking this".

OTOH- "draw the line"? Well, hands on instruction means the cadet gets to fly the plane, with instruction. Their hands on the airplane controls. I'm not sure there's any other kind of hands on other than a pat on the back, or a hand reaching over to a shy hand, giving a nudge ... like my instructor did to me once. "No, like this!" and throttle really moved instead of the wimpy input I was giving it.

If there's anything else going on, you have the chain of command, and you owe it to whomever to use it, and if that means jumping one level because it's your command you have a question about, then that is absolutely how it's supposed to work.

[Ron1319]

Chain of command?  Just call the police.