Senior Members Required to Have Internet Access/Valid Email Address?

Started by RADIOMAN015, May 29, 2011, 03:35:23 PM

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RADIOMAN015

Should we require all Senior members in CAP to have a valid email address & access to the internet?

I believe we should require this.  All training for senior members is non on line.  Notifications to the membership at the unit level can be done quickly via email versus calling on the telephone OR sending snail mail to the member.   The unit training schedule can easily be posted to the unit website so the members know what is happening.

HOWEVER, what I find with some senior members is that when they come to the meeting they are accessing their email at that time rather than having an alternative source for accessing the information from their homes, so this defeats being able to contact them before the actual meeting dates.

I just wonder IF we do require this IF someone in CAP can come up with a cheap way for the member to access the internet and email, perhaps via an agreement with a major vendor.

RM

Eclipse

While we will never be able to make it a requirement, it should be an expectation, especially of adults.  You cannot function in today's society without
access to the net.

NHQ just discontinued the program with Earthlink that provided free dial-up to all units because few were using it.  Most public libraries offer free internet
access, not to mention that most people can get it on their phone these days.

"That Others May Zoom"

RVT

Quote from: Eclipse on May 29, 2011, 03:50:13 PMWhile we will never be able to make it a requirement, it should be an expectation, especially of adults.  You cannot function in today's society without access to the net.

Not having an email address has long since been the equivalent of not having a phone number.  Get a google account - it gives you both for free - even if you don't have a computer or a phone.

EMT-83

All training for seniors is NOT done on-line. Please stop repeating that lie.

MIKE

Quote from: RVT on May 29, 2011, 07:01:52 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 29, 2011, 03:50:13 PMWhile we will never be able to make it a requirement, it should be an expectation, especially of adults.  You cannot function in today's society without access to the net.

Not having an email address has long since been the equivalent of not having a phone number.  Get a google account - it gives you both for free - even if you don't have a computer or a phone.

Watch what happens when 31 December 2016 rolls around... Seen that ALAUX?
Mike Johnston

FW

One thing is certain (as my friend Colgan likes to say) is we are now in the "information age".  Print is out; "e media" is in.  We are one connected nation and, there is no turning back.  At this point in time, there is no other efficiant/cost effective way to do business. 

Access to eservices is now essential. And, although a good idea for CAP to negotiate a "member" rate for broad band internet use, I don't think that will help.  For what we spend on CAP each year, another $25/month shouldn't hurt too bad.  The entertainment value alone of contributing to CAPTalk is well worth the expense... >:D

Eclipse

To FW's point, Amazon announced recently that ebooks are now out selling print, which even shocked me.

"That Others May Zoom"

SARDOC

National Capital Wing issues everyone a natcapwg email address through gmail and they are conducting all their business using google apps.  That should be how we are doing everything now.  Best of all it doesn't cost us anything because we are a nonprofit organization.

MIKE

MAWG is doing similarly with mawg.cap.gov addresses also via gmail.  Supposedly fully transitioned today actually according to the last email I got via the old system.
Mike Johnston

peter rabbit

QuoteWatch what happens when 31 December 2016 rolls around... Seen that ALAUX?

Ok, Mike, I'll bite - what gives?

RVT

Quote from: SARDOC on May 30, 2011, 12:10:55 AMNational Capital Wing issues everyone a natcapwg email address through gmail and they are conducting all their business using google apps.  That should be how we are doing everything now.  Best of all it doesn't cost us anything because we are a nonprofit organization.

I have google set up for my squadron - Calendar, documents, google voice number, even have it importing the email from the Yahoo account until I can get everything changed over.

Squadron doesn't have its own domain name - thats the next step, then everybody gets a squadron email address.  Till then its just regular gmail...and still free.

Eclipse

Quote from: MIKE on May 29, 2011, 09:45:23 PM
Quote from: RVT on May 29, 2011, 07:01:52 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 29, 2011, 03:50:13 PMWhile we will never be able to make it a requirement, it should be an expectation, especially of adults.  You cannot function in today's society without access to the net.

Not having an email address has long since been the equivalent of not having a phone number.  Get a google account - it gives you both for free - even if you don't have a computer or a phone.

Watch what happens when 31 December 2016 rolls around... Seen that ALAUX?

http://www.uscg.mil/auxiliary/publications/misc/alaux-008-11.asp

3.  Importance of Unique E-Mail Addresses:

      a.    The most accommodating aspect of the Auxiliary LMS will be its ability to allow Auxiliarists to use it from their personal computers without any special access card or tool.  However, in order for it to properly synch with AUXDATA and feed the right information to the right Auxiliarist's record, each Auxiliarist who uses the Auxiliary LMS will have to have their own unique e-mail address, and that e-mail address will have to be recorded as the primary e-mail address in their AUXDATA profile.  That unique e-mail address will then serve as the Auxiliarist's username for Auxiliary LMS login purposes.

      b.    It is therefore strongly recommended that all Auxiliarists ensure that they do not have any e-mail addresses in AUXDATA that are the same as those of any family members or friends who also happen to be Auxiliarists.  Without a unique individual e-mail address, an Auxiliarist will be prevented from having the Auxiliary LMS directly load their training results into AUXDATA, and there will be no alternative connection.

"That Others May Zoom"

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Eclipse on May 29, 2011, 11:01:24 PM
To FW's point, Amazon announced recently that [e]books are now out selling print, which even shocked me.

Fix'd.

I also think of ebooks as just books now, but the rest may need the "e" in there.

Speaking of which, as an owner of 5 kindles (with screens), 1 nook, and another 8 kindles (waiting on replacement screens), it's big business these days. More and more I see people on the "L", the Metra, etc reading on (mostly) Kindles. Some choose the Nook, some the large Kindle, but the advent of wifi/3G book delivery instantly is a great advantage. The day I got my Kindle, was the day that a book I wanted came out. Under a minute after finding it on Amazon.com via the Kindle, I was reading it. How great is that? Oh, it also cost me about 40% less than the already discounted hardcover, didn't cost anything to ship, and was there obviously much faster. Any wonder that it's outselling books on Amazon now?

With things such as Mobi Pocket reader, I can also convert .PDF to Kindle Native format, and that means for anyone in CAP, that any manual can be thrown on a Kindle and be read easily.

Eclipse

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on May 30, 2011, 02:31:59 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 29, 2011, 11:01:24 PM
To FW's point, Amazon announced recently that [e]books are now out selling print, which even shocked me.

Fix'd.

I also think of ebooks as just books now, but the rest may need the "e" in there.

Duh, kinda blew my point there. I just use the native Kindle app on my Xoom and my phone.  Before that it was eReader for the
Palm or WinMo.  The majority of the books I've read for 10 years have been ebooks.

As to email, in most case getting an address is not the issue.  It's a mindset that says email is now the center of the universe
for commerce and communications (no, it's not Facebook, yet), so it's at least as important as cable TV.

There's also the issue of checking it regularly, not passing around hoaxes, funnies, or ecards, and...

...for the love of all you hold dear...

...not sending email to a base commander, ES director, or local youth leader in the name of CAP with an address like "hottiepilotjock43290@juno.com".

"That Others May Zoom"

Майор Хаткевич

Reading on eINK is a BIG difference from LCD. I've read lots on LCD, but for enjoyable experience, I like eInk. I'm waiting on the first Color eInk tablets to hit though!

As to email, I find that it's actually fading out of my life, and ecards/jokes/hoaxes should have died before Broadband internet hit. I now get, and read my emails on my Smartphone, and rarely access them via a computer.

That said, out of Android necessity, I have a gmail. On top of that, three yahoo accounts, 1 yandex.ru account, and a splattering of others. As someone who works in ecommerce, I get a chuckle out of the aol.com shoppers as well. :P

Eclipse

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on May 30, 2011, 02:48:28 AM
Reading on eINK is a BIG difference from LCD. I've read lots on LCD, but for enjoyable experience, I like eInk. I'm waiting on the first Color eInk tablets to hit though!

To my eyes eink looks muddy.  Also it is useless in the dark.

"That Others May Zoom"

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Eclipse on May 30, 2011, 02:49:40 AM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on May 30, 2011, 02:48:28 AM
Reading on eINK is a BIG difference from LCD. I've read lots on LCD, but for enjoyable experience, I like eInk. I'm waiting on the first Color eInk tablets to hit though!

To my eyes eink looks muddy.  Also it is useless in the dark.

To each his own in that case. Where did the aol/juno/hotmail line go?

Eclipse


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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Eclipse on May 30, 2011, 03:18:56 AM
Best left in the bit bucket.

Heh.

This is what AOL is telling me about my old account:

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