CAP correspondence reg for office symbols?

Started by Crash, April 01, 2011, 08:43:10 PM

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Eclipse

I've got a couple that aren't defined by 10-1.

I'm suggesting:

SAR Officer - DOSR
(We're combining SAR & DR into one position, bit the "R" works either way)

IC Coordinator - DOSI

We also have training staff for Air, Ground, & Base under the Emergency Services Training Officer (DOST), but
are thinking they don't need office symbols as they are ad-hoc staff mostly doing ADY, and the personnel will
ebb as the need does.


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Quote from: Eclipse on March 31, 2012, 05:25:08 PM
I've got a couple that aren't defined by 10-1.

I'm suggesting:

SAR Officer - DOSR
(We're combining SAR & DR into one position, bit the "R" works either way)

IC Coordinator - DOSI

We also have training staff for Air, Ground, & Base under the Emergency Services Training Officer (DOST), but
are thinking they don't need office symbols as they are ad-hoc staff mostly doing ADY, and the personnel will
ebb as the need does.

So if the Director of Operations is coordinating the ICs are they the DOSI-DO?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The CyBorg is destroyed

Quote from: FlyTiger77 on March 30, 2012, 06:21:37 PM
As long as we are all clear that we are the CIVIL Air Patrol and not the mili...

Nevermind, I can't even finish this with a straight face! ::)

:clap: :) ;) :D ;D 8) :P >:D

My question is, as someone with a Master rating in pushing papers, how did this end up in the Uniforms & Awards section? ???
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Quote from: CyBorg on April 01, 2012, 06:35:32 AM
Quote from: FlyTiger77 on March 30, 2012, 06:21:37 PM
As long as we are all clear that we are the CIVIL Air Patrol and not the mili...

Nevermind, I can't even finish this with a straight face! ::)

:clap: :) ;) :D ;D 8) :P >:D

My question is, as someone with a Master rating in pushing papers, how did this end up in the Uniforms & Awards section? ???
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Quote from: jeders on March 30, 2012, 03:15:25 PM

Yes, when writing formal correspondence, there is only one correct answer. When on CAPTalk and in casual conversation, if I want to call the Deputy Commander for Cadets the fizzlebot it is equally correct so long as the meaning is understood. Since DCC is a common term in CAP and is understood by many people, there is nothing incorrect about its use here.

One is correct the other isn't. In Communications we have DC, DCA, DCF, DCL, DCM, DCO, DCOM, DCOR and DCT. For the 25% of the membership that is Comm types or interact a lot with comm. DCC will create a lot of misunderstanding.

We all know a Cadet or a new Senior Member who will see "DCC" here at CT and take it back to the Squadron as gospel.

FlyTiger77

Quote from: phirons on March 31, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
So if the Director of Operations is coordinating the ICs are they the DOSI-DO?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ok, now that I have cleaned off my keyboard, I can go back to reading the forum. Thanks, buddy.
JACK E. MULLINAX II, Lt Col, CAP

bflynn

Quote from: Private Investigator on April 01, 2012, 08:06:06 PM
We all know a Cadet or a new Senior Member who will see "DCC" here at CT and take it back to the Squadron as gospel.

Why, this is an unoffical site, right?  Nothing here is gospel

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Quote from: bflynn on April 01, 2012, 11:54:10 PM
Quote from: Private Investigator on April 01, 2012, 08:06:06 PM
We all know a Cadet or a new Senior Member who will see "DCC" here at CT and take it back to the Squadron as gospel.

Why, this is an unoffical site, right?  Nothing here is gospel

You need to work with Cadets more often.   8)

SamFranklin

Quote from: Eclipse on March 30, 2012, 04:05:15 PM
Wrong is wrong, and like anything in CAP, the military, and "life", it's fine to be the new guy and use terminology that "sounds right", but once you know the correct answer, you should adjust and move on.

For members with a scope that stays at the unit level, DC doesn't have any other meaning they hear often, but for members with a scope beyond the
unit, the issue comes up all the time in conversation - just as people will refer to the wing CV as DC, and then you might actually not know who they are talking about.

Bob, if you insist on splitting legalisms, 10-1 does not mandate abbreviations in everyday conversation. That's the issue, not what the bureaucratic office symbol is in the reg. Why be so pedantic about such a meaningless topic?

Common sense can and should prevail. If you doubt that principle, someone, anyone, find me a cite in any CAP regulation that specifies the regulation is written in English, the math is base-10, and the calendar is the Gregorian. Sure, it looks that way, and common sense says it is so, but I dunno, unless it's in the reg it's not true, right?