Browsing Wikileaks bad for your CAP health?

[DakRadz]

Now as far as the alleged military member that released this information, yes he is likely in serious trouble that could get him a good 10 years in a military prison.

Treason is punishable by death. Technically; and I know it won't happen. Just sayin'. I have the freedom to wish vengefully.

I served in the military to protect America, BUT I also served to protect ALL our freedoms.  I really don't need some CAP mis guided military "wanna bees" telling me what I should or shouldn't be doing
RM       

But it's nice to have a heads-up.
Also, many points have been brought up as to why it's not really a great idea regardless of CAP status. Things I never would have thought about otherwise, yet still have a valid point. So.

Seriously, it seems like I'm the first person on page 2 in both the forums I frequent.

[Ron1319]

I'm having a hard time seeing how a government document classification could apply to me. 

[NCRblues]

I'm having a hard time seeing how a government document classification could apply to me.

It applies to you, because your an American citizen (and even if your not your in American jurisdiction) and you must follow ALL laws. Not the ones you like.....

The law says you cant look at this stuff, your not cleared, nor do you have a need to know...

[manfredvonrichthofen]

I served in the military to protect America, BUT I also served to protect ALL our freedoms.  I really don't need some CAP mis guided military "wanna bees" telling me what I should or shouldn't be doing
RM       

Ok then radioman, take it from me. It is against the law to read any document that is deemed classified, even FOUO, it is a federal crime. It doesn't matter if a CAP officer tells you not to look at it or not. The only time you can see a classified document is to return it when found to the nearest military post/armory.

[RADIOMAN015]

I served in the military to protect America, BUT I also served to protect ALL our freedoms.  I really don't need some CAP mis guided military "wanna bees" telling me what I should or shouldn't be doing
RM       

Ok then radioman, take it from me. It is against the law to read any document that is deemed classified, even FOUO, it is a federal crime. It doesn't matter if a CAP officer tells you not to look at it or not. The only time you can see a classified document is to return it when found to the nearest military post/armory.

Very highly doubtful that a civilian not associated with the military, looking at a third party site found with google is going to be prosecuted successfully because it isn't a crime.  HOWEVER, CAP members coming into direct contact with any classified information and releasing it likely could be prosecuted.  It's likely that CAP performs some missions that although not classified are considered sensitive and the members have signed a non disclosure agreement, they also could find themselves in deep trouble if it was released.

BTW I haven't even looked at the wiki leaks. Likely I won't even look no time...  What still amazes me is why that individual's supervisor didn't see him downloading all this material.  There's alot.    I should wouldn't want to be that supervisor or even the two levels above that, because likely they may have some career progression problems.
RM   

[manfredvonrichthofen]

Very highly doubtful that a civilian not associated with the military, looking at a third party site found with google is going to be prosecuted successfully because it isn't a crime.

Yeah, that is what they said about watching movies from Limewire. Look at them now, being prosecuted for downloading those movies and songs. Successfully too.

[FARRIER]

The Pentagon Papers during the 1970s. The same situation. Icant find it at the moment,  but the Supreme Court ruled that once the material was released...as RM said.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

The Pentagon Papers during the 1970s. The same situation. Icant find it at the moment,  but the Supreme Court ruled that once the material was released...as RM said.

That ruling was that once classified documents were released it is all cool, not leaked or stolen.

[NCRblues]

The Pentagon Papers during the 1970s. The same situation. Icant find it at the moment,  but the Supreme Court ruled that once the material was released...as RM said.

The supreme court ruled it must be properly released and cataloged into the library of congress. It can not be leaked, stolen, hijacked or any other crazy notion you can come up with.

Also, RM, it is a crime, but will never be prosecuted because well, lets be honest, what a waste of time to prosecute someone who reads it off google. Now the person who took them without permission..... i hope they hang him high....

[SARDOC]

The Pentagon Papers during the 1970s. The same situation. Icant find it at the moment,  but the Supreme Court ruled that once the material was released...as RM said.

That ruling was that once classified documents were released it is all cool, not leaked or stolen.

Not Quite...The Case in question is the New York Times Company v. United States (1971)   The Documents in this case were not "Released".  They were leaked to the NYTimes.  The Court case was that the government tried to order the paper not to print classified information with a restraining Order under the Espionage Act.  The NYTimes fought and had that ruled unconstitutional.  The Government Cannot censor the media or private citizens from disseminating Classified Information unless they are an agent of the government entrusted in keeping that sensitive information in the interest of National Security.  Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press were thought of as being pretty important hallmarks of a democracy...once upon a time.

[FARRIER]

I'm having a hard time seeing how a government document classification could apply to me.

It applies to you, because your an American citizen (and even if your not your in American jurisdiction) and you must follow ALL laws. Not the ones you like.....

The law says you cant look at this stuff, your not cleared, nor do you have a need to know...

Then explain how the reporters who wrote for the News got away with it. I dont think the information came out in book form originally.

[NCRblues]

I'm having a hard time seeing how a government document classification could apply to me.

It applies to you, because your an American citizen (and even if your not your in American jurisdiction) and you must follow ALL laws. Not the ones you like.....

The law says you cant look at this stuff, your not cleared, nor do you have a need to know...

Then explain how the reporters who wrote for the News got away with it. I dont think the information came out in book form originally.

Freedom of the press shall not be infringed. See post above yours.......

You would be actively seaking to look at and obtain national security sensitive documents.

[FARRIER]

Its the PFC that stold the documents. He's the one they should be threatning with the Espionage Act. The Press isn't just newspapers anymore, there is also the electronic media. China, with the participation of Google, blocked internet content. Google also helped in the monitoring. Because someone isn't reporting in the paper format, doesn't mean they are not the press.

I'm having a hard time seeing how a government document classification could apply to me.

It applies to you, because your an American citizen (and even if your not your in American jurisdiction) and you must follow ALL laws. Not the ones you like.....

The law says you cant look at this stuff, your not cleared, nor do you have a need to know...

Then explain how the reporters who wrote for the News got away with it. I dont think the information came out in book form originally.

Freedom of the press shall not be infringed. See post above yours.......

You would be actively seaking to look at and obtain national security sensitive documents.

[FlyTiger77]

I believe that DoD's major concern is keeping classified data off its unclassified network. In INFOSEC, this is deemed "spillage" and is a royal pain in the fourth point of contact. A person using an unclassified DoD system to view and download classified documents from WikiLeaks or any other source would cause spillage and be very unpopular in a number of places.

[JWilson]

I think that this is a interesting question and I have to agree with the sentiment that classified informationdoes not become declassified once it has been leaked. Information is classified for a reason.
However, while there is no standing order to avoid wikileaks I believe that it is a good idea to stay away from the website, a seizure of the logs by the government could yield the names of people who visited the website. Which could likely cause problems for a CAP member. But the likelihood of this happening is very small

And to julian assange: I hope you realize that the more elusive you make yourself, the more tempting of a target you and your organization make to black ops

Ummmm, yeah, OK.  He's in jail.  Dont get much more "elusive" than that I guess.

The women who are pressing charges said the would not have done so if he "had not been so elusive and difficult to contact"
By avoiding these women he garnered media attention, which no doubt garnered more interest from groups that would like to see him lose face.

[SARDOC]

The women who are pressing charges said the would not have done so if he "had not been so elusive and difficult to contact"
By avoiding these women he garnered media attention, which no doubt garnered more interest from groups that would like to see him lose face.

If I had a women pressing charges against me for whatever reason...I'd probably be elusive and avoid contact with them myself.  That's why he turned himself in to the police.