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« on: May 14, 2010, 03:59:56 AM »

Two of our newer pilots are retired military fliers (1 Navy & 1 Army). They decided that we all needed callsigns (even us non-pilot types). Originally I was Eagle, since I'm bald and have a large beak, It was then revised to Golden Eagle since I hadn't pinned on 1st LT at that point. Then I was playing pool with another pilot before the meeting, and doing rather well. Being bald it was proposed that I be called Cue Ball. That lasted until it took me 6 or 7 tries to sink the 8 to win the game. I'm now officially known as 8-Ball.

Anyone else do callsigns in their unit? What's yours?

For the RM pilots in here, what's your callsign?

Remember, we need the story behind it.
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2010, 04:09:24 AM »

Originally it was "Wing-Tip" now it is Jimmy.

Wing-Tip is because 8 years ago I was taxiing an aircraft back to the hanger when by accident I was the left wing-tip into the corner of the hanger.  $400 in damage, all fiberglass, no sheet metal.

The "Jimmy" is because my Real name is James, hence Jimmy.

If you really need a callsign, go to http://www.topgunday.com/call-sign-generator/
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2010, 04:25:32 AM »

You need to read 100-3.  This is a no-go..




"b. Adherence to the procedure prescribed in this regulation is mandatory on all Civil Air Patrol internal voice nets. Departure from, or variations in these procedures is prohibited. Such action can invalidate security precautions, reduce accuracy and speed, compromise safety, and create confusion. If a procedure is not provided for a specific situation, common sense and training experience should be used as a guide. Standard procedure must never be replaced by individually preferred methods, or the latter used as an excuse for lack of procedural expertise."

"(1) Call signs. Properly issued Air Force Voice Call Signs (AFVCS, commonly called “Tactical call signs”) or Functional designators must be used in accordance with the rules established in CAPR 100-1 and paragraph 1-8 and 1-9 below. All communications must clearly state the station call sign or designator at some point in a series of transmissions, normally at the beginning. Note that paragraph 1-9 f. prescribes the minimum required station identification using the AFVCS."

"1-9. Functional Designator Usage. Functional designators are utilized by the ICS system to enhance interoperability on joint missions and differ from Air Force Voice Call Signs (AFVCS) in that they are intended to openly state the identity and function of a station. Because CAP may be utilized in a multi-agency ICS mission, CAP operators need to be familiar with and practice the use of functional designators; however, it needs to be recognized that many CAP missions, including Homeland Security missions, Air Force and Joint Service support missions and Federal Agency support missions may have OpSec considerations that preclude the use of functional designators. It is essential, therefore, that CAP train and utilize both systems as appropriate to maintain proficiency. Functional designators must NOT be used as a substitute for a properly managed AFVCS call sign program. They are authorized for use on appropriate missions either training or actual, or an organized CAP activity such as an encampment, FTX or conference. .
a. Functional designators may only be used when the operator is signed in to a mission or formal CAP activity and as assigned by the Comm Unit Leader or Communications Officer IAW with this regulation as implemented by the wing Director of Communications. Routine day-to-day use of functional designators in place of AFVCS call signs is prohibited.
b. Functional designators should reflect the nationally-standardized ICS/CAP positions or job functions that are represented, or geographic locations, or both. Examples of valid functional designators are “Air Ops” ”Ground Ops” “Flight Line” “Admin” “Transport four” “Ground Team Six” “Jackson Base” “Camp Six” “Highbird”, etc. Geographic prefixes are used ONLY with airborne relay stations or bases and other stationary facilities. A one or two-digit numerical suffix is optional and may be used with any functional designator if needed.
c. By definition functional designators make clear the function of the station using the call sign. Call signs (other than the assigned AFVCS) which cloak the function of the station are NOT functional designators and are not allowed under this provision of the rules. Random words or phonetic alphabet letters are not functional designators. Vanity words such as “Eagle” “Ranger” or “PJ” do not qualify as functional designators and could only be used if assigned by the Air Force as a Voice Call Sign."
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2010, 04:38:13 AM »

and if the "it's just on the ISR" argument comes up refer them to CAPR100-1 sec 9-14:

9-14. FRS/ISR Procedures. Operations with either ISR or FRS radios should utilize normal CAP operating procedures, including callsigns. To operate either FRS or ISR without supervision, operators must be qualified as a radio operator under Para 5-1 of this regulation.
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2010, 04:41:38 AM »

I'm thinking these are callsigns used to refer to each other informally in person, not for radio use.

I don't have a CAP "callsign" like that, but when I was in a volunteer fire department, I got "Q-Tip" because when my hair is cut short, it sticks straight up.

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2010, 04:45:06 AM »

I think the OP was referring to nicknames awarded by the squadron members and not a actual callsign to be used during radio communications.

My U/I is my callsign.  I was working really hard for a while to always land my 182 in under 400'. 
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 06:23:20 AM »

Everyone at OTS got callsigns.

Mine was "Furry," and I'm not explaining why. :|
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 06:28:00 AM »

Mine is "Radar," but never used on the radio.  Makes it less so a call sign, I guess.   :(
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 06:28:51 AM »

Hey, cap235629 - "Lighten up, Francis!"

This is just a bit of silliness that some folks enjoy. Unwad your panties, and chillax.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 06:31:25 AM »

and if the "it's just on the ISR" argument comes up refer them to CAPR100-1 sec 9-14:

9-14. FRS/ISR Procedures. Operations with either ISR or FRS radios should utilize normal CAP operating procedures, including callsigns. To operate either FRS or ISR without supervision, operators must be qualified as a radio operator under Para 5-1 of this regulation.

Wait, it only says "should."  YAY!  Pass the FRS/ISR!
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2010, 09:28:28 AM »

I believe this thread is meant to be for fun only, and more importantly not under CAP regulatory command.

Lets just have fun!!
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2010, 10:13:04 AM »

 Mine is D-Ring, when training on a tactical jet, I stood up in the cockpit upon landing and the D-ring holding my parachute in place had gotten caught on something in the jet and pulled it. So there I am, standing up in the cockpit, getting ready to climb out of the jet and my parachute is streaming behind me and the I.P. is laughing at me. Oh the joy! Those are the embarrassing moments in life that lead to call signs you never get rid of.
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 10:17:41 AM »

My call sign is Pappy, Being that I was the oldest cadet at my first encampment I had a lot of wisdom to share with some of the younger cadets so they said I was kinda like a father figure so hence Pappy.  Also when I worked at a hospital the xray techs decided to give me a nickname and it stuck. It was a play on my name: Jason Robinson so they gave me JROB (Jay-Rob).
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2010, 11:30:25 AM »

These aren't "callsigns," they are nicknames.
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2010, 01:19:51 PM »

Mine? OICU812. It used to be 10-SNE1. I have applied for IMGR8.  And my phone number is 867-5309.  Jenny should answer for me but probably won't.  See http://www.danstheman.com/Jenny.htm
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2010, 01:22:06 PM »

Originally it was "Wing-Tip" now it is Jimmy.

Wing-Tip is because 8 years ago I was taxiing an aircraft back to the hanger when by accident I was the left wing-tip into the corner of the hanger.  $400 in damage, all fiberglass, no sheet metal.

The "Jimmy" is because my Real name is James, hence Jimmy.

If you really need a callsign, go to http://www.topgunday.com/call-sign-generator/
I was thinking it was from Jimmy from South Park.  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2010, 01:25:28 PM »

Mine is "Radar," but never used on the radio.  Makes it less so a call sign, I guess.   :(
How can one have a callsign if they are not on the radio? I'm just askin'.  That would be like calling me "Senator" but I hold no elective office except in my own imagination.  But while I have you here, do you happen to know BJ, Hawkeye, and Hotlips?
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2010, 02:54:58 PM »

Because they are prohibited.  I've met Alan Alda.  Is that sufficient?   ;D
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2010, 06:54:54 PM »

ITT: fun police
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2010, 08:25:13 PM »

ITT: fun police
Or as Dr. Johnny Fever of WKRP fame fled most of his adult life, the phone cops.
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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2010, 08:30:18 PM »

The cadets in my unit usually refer to me as "Navy", since I've been known to show up at meetings in that uniform (before changing into my proper CAP uniform to participate in Squadron activities).  At work I'm usually known as "Khan" since it  sounds like the phonetic of the beginning of my last name.  WIWAC my nick was "Styrofoam", "Foam", or "Styro".  Spawned from an incident involving a bit of litter at a meeting site, and grew from that into this huge legend about me eating styrofoam.  At some point later I became the "Goat" because of that.
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2010, 09:06:12 PM »

Remember, call signs are picked for you, not by you.

They are a form of nickname, assigned by your peers, usually to immortalize some indiscretion on your part, or point out some aspect of your appearance or behaviour. I usta know an F-14 pilot named Bronto, who wasn't your showpiece buff Nasal Radiator, and had a slow methodical gait when he walked.
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2010, 09:38:19 PM »

My "callsign" at work is "Chewy".  I have it on the back of my helmet.  Long story.  We have people who have been in the unit a few years who still dont have one.  We have a guy who got his on his first day.  It just happens and youll feel it when it does ;D
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2010, 01:03:40 AM »

Remember, call signs are picked for you, not by you.

They are a form of nickname, assigned by your peers, usually to immortalize some indiscretion on your part, or point out some aspect of your appearance or behaviour. I usta know an F-14 pilot named Bronto, who wasn't your showpiece buff Nasal Radiator, and had a slow methodical gait when he walked.
Great.  So, here on CT, "Senator" Epp* it is!  Awesome!  I now yield the floor to the esteemed CAP Senator from the Great State of Confusion, Senator SarDragon!

*Yes, I have violated Senator SarDragon's Rules of Callsign Procedure.  But as the new CAP CT Senate Majority Leader, self-annointed, of course, there's a new sheriff and a new virtual non-existent rule book in town and we can name ourselves.    8)

How can I do this? I invoke the Cartman Amendment: "You will respect my authori-TAY!"  That and because I'm a lawyer.
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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2010, 07:33:57 AM »

Great.  So, here on CT, "Senator" Epp* it is!  Awesome!  I now yield the floor to the esteemed CAP Senator from the Great State of Confusion, Senator SarDragon!

*Yes, I have violated Senator SarDragon's Rules of Callsign Procedure.  But as the new CAP CT Senate Majority Leader, self-annointed, of course, there's a new sheriff and a new virtual non-existent rule book in town and we can name ourselves.    8)

How can I do this? I invoke the Cartman Amendment: "You will respect my authori-TAY!"  That and because I'm a lawyer.


http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=3911727
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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2010, 07:48:44 AM »

*Yes, I have violated Senator SarDragon's Rules of Callsign Procedure.  But as the new CAP CT Senate Majority Leader, self-annointed, of course, there's a new sheriff and a new virtual non-existent rule book in town and we can name ourselves.    8)

How can I do this? I invoke the Cartman Amendment: "You will respect my authori-TAY!"  That and because I'm a lawyer.


So..."weiner" then...so let it be written, so let it be said...
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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2010, 01:49:20 PM »

Yeppp.. Had had mine for years.... You can imagine why it was given to me!
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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2010, 03:24:08 PM »

*Yes, I have violated Senator SarDragon's Rules of Callsign Procedure.  But as the new CAP CT Senate Majority Leader, self-annointed, of course, there's a new sheriff and a new virtual non-existent rule book in town and we can name ourselves.    8)

How can I do this? I invoke the Cartman Amendment: "You will respect my authori-TAY!"  That and because I'm a lawyer.


So..."weiner" then...so let it be written, so let it be said...
RAMEN!
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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2010, 10:17:07 PM »

Pilots are given callsigns  aka nicknames in the Air Force and Navy all the time. It is SOP.   They are not  radio call signs as one poster alluded to. 

As was stated, most often they are given to you and usually for something stoopid you did or a play on your name.  The current leader of the Thunderbirds callsign is  "Basket" a play on his first name CASE.  The Blue Angel narrator this year has a callsign of  "Brokeback".  He happened to be assigned to his previous squadron the day movie came out!  And if one protests one's call sign, the new name is guaranteed to be worse.

Any guesses on my callsign??!
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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2010, 03:38:33 AM »

  And if one protests one's call sign, the new name is guaranteed to be worse.

Agreed, although there is theory that adult beverages in mass quantity will also get your callsign changed.
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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2010, 04:51:53 AM »

My callsign at vfws is B.S.

'officially' it stands for bird strike...  as I seem to have had a rather inordinate amount of those in my life (in cars, motorcycles, bicycles, in the air, and believe it or not, even on foot --that one was an emu *in texas*, but as far as i'm concerned, it counts!)

However I have more than one voice recording of some poor person getting hosed in the sim and yelling across the mic "awww...  that's BS!!!"

yes, it was, thank you very much (victory roll)
bwahahahahahaha
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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2010, 12:02:11 PM »

Mine was "Time Fuse".  I had an explosive charge that didn't go off once.  I had to baby sit the darned thing while everyone else went to lunch.  :)
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