Started by Eclipse, November 09, 2017, 12:14:05 am
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Quote from: etodd on November 09, 2017, 01:51:04 amBut with all these agencies doing it in-house, CAP will be sitting by the phone ....
Quote from: Eclipse on November 09, 2017, 02:01:54 amThat's my point. There may still be a window here that CAP can squeeze into, but if it moves at its usual pace, it might just as well hang it up.This isn't the '80s and people aren't going to wait around anymore for years-long updates to regs, re-numbering that delays enhancements, and other "fun" - they will simply move on to the next table at the air show and fill out their application.At $2k on the low end for a UAV with thermal, this tech is well within the reach of any municipality, even as an "experiment".CAP doesn't have the time to spend trying to find some off-brand supplier from another country to provide an RFP for 2 experimental units that will be deployed a year later to a region for a "pilot", to then be discussed sometime in the future.These things should be the new L-Pers, deployed at least to every Group in CAP(yeah, I know, some wings don't have groups, somehow it'll work itself out), and NESA should have a UAV SAR school THIS YEAR.When the average CERT team can outpace an organizaiton like CAP, the clock is ticking.This something that would attract new members, bring us into the mid-2000's in tech, and CAP could leverage it's still outstanding ICS capabilities into deploy-able UAV units.
Quote from: etodd on November 09, 2017, 02:36:25 amSo I'm thinking the marketing would have to be to smaller towns in neighboring 'poorer' counties. The towns with a three man police force and a volunteer fire department.It would be quite a marketing challenge.
Quote from: Eclipse on November 09, 2017, 02:01:54 amQuote from: etodd on November 09, 2017, 01:51:04 amBut with all these agencies doing it in-house, CAP will be sitting by the phone ....These things should be the new L-Pers, deployed at least to every Group in CAP(yeah, I know, some wings don't have groups, somehow it'll work itself out), and NESA should have a UAV SAR school THIS YEAR.
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on November 09, 2017, 02:10:44 pmAfter selling the so-called white elephants, how do you suggest we conduct our orientation flights? Do you think that cadets will adore flying a drone as opposed to flying in a real elephant aircraft?
QuoteOne problem that we're going to run into is the FAR's regarding drones, and them not being able to be out of visual sight of the operator. That's why when US drones are flying outside of restricted areas they have to have a chase plane.
Quote from: SarDragon on November 10, 2017, 04:41:08 amI saw a video at our meeting last night about drones and their possible use for SAR. The specific unit used was a preprogrammed autonomous drone that flew a predetermined grid, and took video of the track. I'll have to get the URL from the presenter and post it later.
Quote from: etodd on November 11, 2017, 04:52:19 amAn interesting article. A company getting military approval of their system:https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/training-dma-yuneec-jennifer-pidgen/
QuoteWill drone pilots be required to have the Part 107? If so, how many CAP members will fork out the $150 for the test or will CAP reimburse? CAP airplane pilots can take an online test and get it for free, so would it wind up with most drone pilots be existing Mission Pilots?
QuoteOur local City, police, fire and newspaper, already have drones. The local police and sheriff BOTH have manned helicopters. If I talked to any of them representing CAP and let them know our capabilities, they would give me 'that smile' as they said 'thanks for letting us know', that lets me know I'm forgotten as soon as I'm out the door.
QuoteAfter selling the so-called white elephants, how do you suggest we conduct our orientation flights?
QuoteI just don't see the usefulness of these small drones in very many SAR situations.
QuoteI think I actually saw this in a CAPR somewhere, but - that's not why we have aircraft. Sure, it's a cool benefit of being in CAP, but the aircraft fleet exists for ES missions, and we can use them for O-rides because we just happen to have them.
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on November 15, 2017, 01:37:42 amQuoteI think I actually saw this in a CAPR somewhere, but - that's not why we have aircraft. Sure, it's a cool benefit of being in CAP, but the aircraft fleet exists for ES missions, and we can use them for O-rides because we just happen to have them.Really? I have been in the program 20 years and this is how it has been given to me all this time. For both ES and O-flights...
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on November 15, 2017, 10:38:16 pmOnly drones modified to self-charge batteries would overcome limitation on battery as posted by eTodd. As in having a drone with solar cells on their wings. As they fly, their battery is charged, but what will happen at night?
QuoteAs of now, I do not think that CAP is ready to just take over drones as part of our ES.
Quote from: etodd on November 15, 2017, 11:01:08 pmBottom line. If you are currently a Part 107 pilot and want to use your gear for SAR, then go visit your local EMA, police and fire folks, and volunteer on your own. NOT as part of CAP, and don't wear your uniform. Just go 'make a difference' as John Q. Public and help.
Quote News & Update Drone over homes in residential areasFAA Restricts Drone Operations Over DOE FacilitiesDecember 18 - At the request of U.S. national security and law enforcement agencies, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is using its existing authority under Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations 99.7 Special Security Instructions to address concerns about unauthorized drone operations over seven Department of Energy (DOE) facilities.The FAA and DOE have agreed to restrict drone flights up to 400 feet within the lateral boundaries of these sites:Hanford Site, Franklin County, WAPantex Site, Panhandle, TXLos Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NMIdaho National Laboratory, Idaho Falls, IDSavannah River National Laboratory, Aiken, SCY-12 National Security Site, Oak Ridge, TNOak Ridge National Laboratory, Oak Ridge, TNThe airspace restrictions are shown in an FAA Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) and the details about where drone flights are restricted are available here [link broken in cut/paste operation].These UAS National Security restrictions are pending until they become effective on December 29, 2017. There are only a few exceptions that permit drone flights within these restrictions, and they must be coordinated with the individual facility and/or the FAA.To ensure the public is aware of these restricted locations, the FAA has created an interactive map online. The link to these restrictions is also included in the FAA's B4UFLYmobile app. The app will be updated within 60 days to reflect these airspace restrictions. Additional information, including frequently asked questions, is available on the FAA's UAS website.Operators who violate the airspace restrictions may be subject to enforcement action, including potential civil penalties and criminal charges.This is the first time the agency has placed specific airspace restrictions for unmanned aircraft, or drones, over DOE sites. The FAA has placed similar airspace restrictions over military bases that currently remain in place, as well as more recently issued UAS flight restrictions over 10 Department of Interior facilities, including several large dams and iconic landmarks.The FAA is considering additional requests from other federal security agencies for restrictions using the FAA's 99.7 authority to support national security and defense, as they are received.The text of the NOTAM is as follows:FDC 7/6429 FDC SECURITY SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS FOR UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM (UAS) OPERATIONS FOR MULTIPLE LOCATIONS NATIONWIDE. THIS NOTAM SUPPLEMENTS THE UAS-SPECIFIC SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS DEFINED BY FDC 7/7282 AND IMPLEMENTED PURSUANT 14 C.F.R. 99.7 AND HAVE BEEN APPLIED TO AIRSPACE OVER ADDITIONAL NATIONAL SECURITY SENSITIVE FACILITIES. THE UPDATED LIST OF AFFECTED AIRSPACE AND ASSOCIATED PROTECTED LOCATIONS, AND OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION ARE PROVIDED AT THE FOLLOWING FAA WEBSITE: HTTP://UAS.FAA.OPENDATA.ARCGIS.COM. SEE FDC 7/7282 FOR COMPLETE INFORMATION ON THESE SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS. 1712290001-1902012359
QuoteIt looks like the FAA and a bunch of Federal, state, and perhaps local jurisdictions are requesting specific prohibitions for drone flights conducted within certain (sometimes large) airspaces. Here's the FAA news release from yesterday afternoon (EST) that appears to respond to the current Christmas sales rush to put a drone in every home.
Quote from: sardak on December 19, 2017, 07:24:00 pmNo, DOE is just late to the party. DOD started this process some time ago, even the missle silos are marked. Here is the FAA map showing the no-fly zones and altitude restricted zones around airports. DOE sites are already showing up (scroll down to Visualize it) https://uas-faa.opendata.arcgis.com/Mike
Quote from: GroundHawg on February 09, 2018, 02:51:08 pmQuote from: SarDragon on November 10, 2017, 04:41:08 amI saw a video at our meeting last night about drones and their possible use for SAR. The specific unit used was a preprogrammed autonomous drone that flew a predetermined grid, and took video of the track. I'll have to get the URL from the presenter and post it later.Did you ever post a link to this video? I would be interested in the "Roomba" approach to UAV SAR ops
Page created in 0.081 seconds with 22 queries.