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arajca
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2005, 04:55:46 PM »

From what I've heard from National, we are changing the frequency plan in 2008. However, the new plan will be in the same band as the current plan (140-160Mhz), so many radios available today will still be usable when we change. Icom F-50 and F-30 cover 136 - 172 Mhz which also makes them good for many vol. fire/ems agencies. If you own your own radio you can program in any frequencies which the radio can handle AND for which you have authoization to use. For example, I have CAP and Summit County (CO) emergency channels (incl. police) and authorization from the county emergency manager to use those frequencies.

As for other frequencies, it depends on your wing. Each wing has different agreements with various emergency agencies to support their communications. However, for the most part, members are not expected to have those frequencies on their personally owned radios.
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2005, 05:11:25 PM »

From what I've heard from National, we are changing the frequency plan in 2008. However, the new plan will be in the same band as the current plan (140-160Mhz), so many radios available today will still be usable when we change. Icom F-50 and F-30 cover 136 - 172 Mhz which also makes them good for many vol. fire/ems agencies. If you own your own radio you can program in any frequencies which the radio can handle AND for which you have authoization to use. For example, I have CAP and Summit County (CO) emergency channels (incl. police) and authorization from the county emergency manager to use those frequencies.

As for other frequencies, it depends on your wing. Each wing has different agreements with various emergency agencies to support their communications. However, for the most part, members are not expected to have those frequencies on their personally owned radios.

Just want to be SURE when I fork over my hard earned cash I am NOT limiting myself by having purchased the wrong radio, as I want this unti to give me MANY years of happy service!
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2005, 05:21:13 PM »

I had the same concerns, which is why I went to National to find out what the future would hold.
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2005, 05:44:53 PM »

I had the same concerns, which is why I went to National to find out what the future would hold.

When budgeting approaches these levels, I do NOT want to find out I made a mistake a couple years down the road.
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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2005, 08:41:56 PM »

I'd suggest contacting National Comm directly. Let them know you're looking at purchasing a radio, and while you know they can't make a recommendation, ask them 1. what knid of radios CAP is buying, 2. if that pricing is available to members, and 3. what kind of large scale changes are coming, i.e. frequency plan, wide/narrow band/ P25, etc.

When looking at this kind of expenditure, it make sense to research and get information from as high up as you can. From my experience, National Comm is happy to provide information like this to members. Some details may not be available (such as the actual frequencies) but the frequency range is known. If you're enrolled in the Comm Specialty track, make note of that with your request.
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« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2005, 09:34:54 PM »

Thanks!
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2005, 02:27:41 PM »

BTW, the Icom F50 is water resistant to 1 meter. Which makes it good for outdoors use - particularly in incliment weather.

So if I like to operate as a net control station from my bath tub this radio is good for that right?  ;D



That's one way to get a really good ground . . .
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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2005, 09:28:35 PM »

Why can I sadly hear that conversation taking place... something about: hold on, washing my hair...
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2005, 10:14:06 PM »

For the individual CAP member, eventually you will begin seeing Motorola Spectra units (mobile) become available as Motorola introduces new models. Personally, I don't have a compliant handheld-don't plan to buy one, either.  NTC told me that if Icom would only run their 706 and other all-band radios thru the TCXO, they would be compliant on VHF as well. Check out Kenwood's units on the compliant list as well.

When we get to the point that they take all the "volunteer" out of CAP, that's when I retire. I am not all that happy with *some* policies, but, hey, it's not for me to reason why, just to..........well, you know the story.

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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2005, 12:16:50 AM »

When we get to the point that they take all the "volunteer" out of CAP, that's when I retire. I am not all that happy with *some* policies, but, hey, it's not for me to reason why, just to..........well, you know the story.
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Jerry

Well then, at least there are SOME policies your happy with!
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« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2005, 12:38:25 AM »

I've known policies I wasn't happy with 40 years ago, and I've learned not to worry to much about any of them. ;D



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« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2005, 03:05:12 PM »

Life is TOO short...
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« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2005, 04:26:36 PM »

Life is TOO short...

 Amen to that.

 It took me a long time to learn that lesson...
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« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2005, 05:13:20 PM »

What always amazes me is how LONG it takes most people to understand that....
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« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2005, 06:20:51 PM »

Just remember the statistic: 8 out of 10 Americans are functionally illiterate.  They go along day-by-day living their lives and have no outside comprehension of the world.

Sad, isn't it.
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« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2005, 09:05:09 PM »

Please, say it isn't so!

But on the other hand,  that would explain those idiots down in New Orleans that are taking pot shots at the rescue copters...
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« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2005, 10:41:41 PM »

that would also explain the idiots trying to loot appliances from Wal Mart... where to plug them in?  Even a sump pump is of no actual use at this point in time...
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2006, 01:49:18 PM »

Gents,

Although not strictly speaking kosher for CAP use, check out my APRS tracking transmitters www. byonics.com/microtrak300

There is a lot of talk about using APRS personall and AC tracking in SAR.

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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2006, 05:46:45 AM »

How about something that is CLOSER to narrowband compliant....

I have been eyeballing these: http://www.kantronics.com/products/talon.html
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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2006, 02:03:42 PM »

How about something that is CLOSER to narrowband compliant....

I have been eyeballing these: http://www.kantronics.com/products/talon.html

Sir,

I recently attended a Sprint/Nextel presentation on Interoperability had a chance to "play" with some pretty nifty toys.   Two companies (Codespear and Raytheon) were on-site demonstrating their systems' capabilities.  Being able to use an H.F. radio to talk to someone with a Nextel phone is amazing.

http://www.codespear.com/products.asp

http://www.jps.com/index.asp?node=88

Wayne County (Detroit), Michigan has been using Codespear for about a year and from what I've heard it's spreading like wildfire, everyone is very pleased with it.

 
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