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Lead/Lag Hinge
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« on: March 12, 2010, 07:33:15 PM »

I searched and search around the internet -- including Vanguard and The Hock Shop -- and couldn't find a "CAP" ID lanyard. So I had one made. But the minimum order was 200 so after selling 20 or so at my squadron, I have a many left over. Not trying to make a bunch of money, just recover my costs. So... if you would like a nice, navy blue neck lanyard with "CIVIL AIR PATROL" woven in white, block letters and a safety breakaway at the back of the neck, please email me at JSMacKayII@gmail.com.

They are $5.00 plus $1.50 for postage and packaging. You can send me a personal check or PayPal.
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 07:47:32 PM »

Did you clear it with NHQ first?  :o ;)
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 07:51:29 PM »

^ Seriously.

Also, a picture would be nice.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2010, 07:51:38 PM »

Yikes! You had to order 200 and only sold 20 at your squadron?
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 08:00:04 PM »

They were not terribly expensive. Hence, why I'm selling them for just a few dollars to cover the cost. I figured there were at least 198 other people in CAP besides spouse and me who would want a CAP lanyard and they don't offer one through Vanguard (and I've never heard of DDRA) -- and it's a small squadron.  :)
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 08:12:42 PM »



Very nice...
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2010, 08:22:44 PM »

Thanks... and thank you for posting the picture.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2010, 08:44:30 PM »

HAHA.  NHQ is coming for you.
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2010, 09:47:21 PM »

Thats cool.. what have you found that clips onto it nicely?

I bought this black velcro sealing luggage tag like thing with a lanyard on it at the BX.. the holder part would probably fit nicely on that, it were available separately.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 12:58:24 PM »



Very nice...

Lead/Lag:

Hope you got a license from NHQ to use "Civil Air Patrol"!  :)  Otherwise, you might be making plans to visit a large, imposing building in Alabama.   8)

On a serious note, what's the best way to contact you buy one or more?  Do you have a discount if I were to buy a certain bulk quantity?  You can PM me here or email me at eppcap(at)gmail(dot)com with your reply if you prefer.

Why Vanguard doesn't sell an item like this is puzzling.  This is a useful item for 101 cards, AOA cards, ID cards, etc.  You'd think there would be a good market for this.

Thanks.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 03:21:56 PM »

PM sent
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 05:20:59 PM »

I bought a couple of them last night. I'm sure once people in my squadron see them I'll be back to order more.
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Lead/Lag Hinge
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 05:30:58 PM »

Thank you.

I dropped them in the mail last night right after you ordered them.

Jim
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 08:38:58 AM »

This is a useful item for 101 cards, AOA cards, ID cards, etc.  You'd think there would be a good market for this.

Anyone know the rules assocaited with attaching items to your CAP military style & corporate uniforms? I would assume if not granted permission, that permission is not implied, however, I do hope permission is indeed granted... Anyone know of the top of their head?
 
This knowlege would come into play on making a choice to purchase and to show its availability to squadron members.
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Lead/Lag Hinge
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2010, 07:21:38 PM »

Opinion only: because one is not actually "attaching" a lanyard to the CAP uniform -- only wearing it around one's neck -- the wear of appurtenances portion of the regulation would not apply.

I see a wide variety of credential lanyards in use -- including many without even a tangential relationship to CAP and indeed somewhat inappropriate. It seemed to me, as evidenced by creating this lanyard, that there probably would be too many legitimate objections to one in CAP colors with "Civil Air Patrol" woven in to the fabric.

I have sold many so far. Thanks to all who have ordered one or even 20. I have about 40 left if anyone remains interested, please let me know. Thanks, Jim
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2010, 07:33:17 PM »

This is a useful item for 101 cards, AOA cards, ID cards, etc.  You'd think there would be a good market for this.

Anyone know the rules assocaited with attaching items to your CAP military style & corporate uniforms? I would assume if not granted permission, that permission is not implied, however, I do hope permission is indeed granted... Anyone know of the top of their head?
 
This knowlege would come into play on making a choice to purchase and to show its availability to squadron members.
Come on!

Do we really have to be that much of a regs hound!

If you need to display your ID badge for some reason (out on the flight line, at the mission base etc) you have to display your ID!
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2010, 09:50:09 PM »

Let's see on the base I am at most of the military personnel wear lanyards with their IDs on them, others use a clip to their pockets.  This is Air Force, Army, Marines, Navy.  ya think that perhaps CAP would apply the same logic/regs when ID is needed?

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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2010, 10:56:51 PM »

I agree. I have worn my line badge and Mil ID on my person in various fashions.
- I never cared to look if regulation or policy somewhere allowed it or not... still don't care to look even though I will have my line badge displayed on my person this weekend. 

I just thought I'd ask the question that came to mind. Not trying to stifle the sale or be a hound, however, I do try to get things right, especially if presenting it to others... And we all know that not everything that makes sense happens or is allowed in every organization....

Hope that clarifies... 
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2010, 11:03:25 PM »

Yep, kind of absurd to even think about it that way.

My last unit had the plane based at an ANG base.  Every pilot had to have an access badge to get on the flight line.  That card HAD TO be visible at all times while on the flight line or bad things might happen.  Can't say that anyone brought the "you can't put that on your uniform" discussion up.  Not even once.

This just seems like a "I'm more orthodox than you are" discussion.
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2010, 11:21:22 PM »

Anyone know the rules assocaited with attaching items to your CAP military style & corporate uniforms? I would assume if not granted permission, that permission is not implied, however, I do hope permission is indeed granted... Anyone know of the top of their head?
I've had to wear ID's with uniforms for years, and there's never been a word concerning whether or not it was "reg". The only real stipulation ever having been put forth was "If you're not in the area for which the ID applies, put it away."

We can "reg" ourselves to death with nit picks. If you don't eat pepper, don't worry about picking fly crap out of it.
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