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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: airdale on April 16, 2009, 04:03:46 PM

Title: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: airdale on April 16, 2009, 04:03:46 PM
Does anyone know what it is?  The latest FAA 7110.65S Appendix B does not list Gippsland at all and I have no idea where else to look.
Title: Re: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: DG on April 17, 2009, 12:38:56 PM
You must mean GA8.  That is what we are using for FAA flight plans.  Did you take the transition training?

https://ntc.cap.af.mil/ops/dot/school/GA8cfm/index.cfm
Title: Re: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: airdale on April 17, 2009, 01:50:26 PM
I did the on-line thing two or three years ago out of curiosity, but have never had any interest in flying the airplane.  I didn't remember the GA8 as a type designation from the training, either, but apparently the FAA did not take the course:

On first look, http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/ATC/Appendices/atcapdb.html#atcapdb.html.1 does not list Gippsland at all, but I found it as "GAF (Australia)" with their Nomad airframe having designator "NOMA."  "GA-7" is a Grumman Cougar, so in the event anyone at ATC cared, GA8 would probably be misinterpreted.  "AIRV," anyone?
Title: Re: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: bosshawk on April 17, 2009, 04:40:04 PM
I would suggest contacting the FAA: after all, they do the designating.  GA-8 works for me.
Title: Re: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: SJFedor on April 17, 2009, 08:59:38 PM
GA8 designator, I think, is for some time of Grumman aircraft. Every time I've filed under a GA8, every time ATC does a traffic advisory for another aircraft about me, they always describe me as a Grumman.

When workload permits, I tell them it's a Gippsland GA-8, they ask what the heck it is, I tell them it's a high wing single that looks like a 208 had a piston powered baby.
Title: Re: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: es_g0d on April 18, 2009, 12:19:34 AM
I tell 'em its a 207 that ate a baby, you know, like the dingo.

In any case, it would be nice to get a clarification: explaining every time is reserved to more important stuff, like the strange spelling of my last name.
Title: Re: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: airdale on April 18, 2009, 12:38:38 AM
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it would be nice to get a clarification ...
Yeah.  I just thought it was strange and that someone here would quickly provide the answer.  I know a couple of FAA ATC managers that I could call, but I just hate to send them off into the brush and brambles of the bureaucracy.  I figure I can only ask for so many favors and I don't want to waste my quota on stuff like this.

Seems like someone at national HQ would have become aware of this issue and long since solved it.

OTOH I guess the main time it becomes important is if the airplane goes down.  And CAP knows what a Gipps is, regardless of what's on the flight strip.
Title: Re: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: es_g0d on April 18, 2009, 12:58:56 AM
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Seems like someone at national HQ would have become aware of this issue and long since solved it.

Leadership is NOT waiting for National HQ Staff to tell you what to do.  WE, the membership, are at the forefront of issues: we can inform THEM what we learn and what we've done!  No big deal, its just a mindset.  If we do those things, we can avoid over-regulation.
Title: Re: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: airdale on April 18, 2009, 01:02:52 AM
So, you'll take care of it then?
Title: Re: Gipps Type Designator for FAA Flight Plans?
Post by: es_g0d on April 18, 2009, 06:36:42 AM
Yes, I will.  :D  Airdale, please let us all know when you've tracked down the answer. 

My apologies, I'm using turnabout as fair play.  In all seriousness, it appears that the combined wisdom of the forum (cough, cough) doesn't have the answer to your well-posed question.  In that case, I would suggest you continue the search and share with us what you learn.  Thanks!