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Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: Strikermd140 on August 13, 2020, 04:58:36 pm

Title: ICUT Evaluation virtual radio
Post by: Strikermd140 on August 13, 2020, 04:58:36 pm
I didn't really see anything pertaining to this elsewhere unless I missed it, but i'm also my squadrons comm guy along with a magnitude of other duties... So i was looking to see if anyone have some sort of virtual radio type program to use for evaluations on the radio parts. Due to C-19 and lack of meetings in person, i thought this virtual radio would help evaluate cadets/seniors who need it. My initial thought was a picture and a shared screen and i would point to the part and they would tell me what it was. But i wanted to go a step further and have them be able to utilize the buttons and knobs to know what they do. Any suggestions or know of a good program that could be used for this... Thanks in advance
Title: Re: ICUT Evaluation virtual radio
Post by: Eclipse on August 13, 2020, 05:34:43 pm
At some point they have to be able to physically assemble the parts to pass, there's really no way around that if
they can't get their hands on a physical device.

Everything else could be accomplished using a PC.
Title: Re: ICUT Evaluation virtual radio
Post by: Holding Pattern on August 13, 2020, 10:35:07 pm
Other than the button specific sections, everything else can be done over Zello.

And you may want to talk to your chain about setting up a low-risk training protocol for ICUT completion where you drop off a box at a members house, have them open it and set up the radio after 3 days of waiting (long enough for the virus to die without sanitizing), do the test, and then either issue them that radio or have them rebox it and have you pick it up, where you then leave it alone for 3 days and then repeat with the next member.

Yes it is slow and tedious, but it will get movement.

Work with your comms and safety team to build better strategies than what I came up with for an off the cuff captalk post.
Title: Re: ICUT Evaluation virtual radio
Post by: TheSkyHornet on August 14, 2020, 12:25:55 am
The issue I ran into was that hands-on portion.

We considered virtual sign-offs, and I understand that some units have been doing that. But I think it's more frequent that you're going to have members who really don't know anything about the radio and can barely use it, let alone turn it on.

If they can't play with it in their hands, they're going to miss out.

Is it a must for them when doing any virtual activities?

If your Wing doesn't allow Phase 1 meetings yet, you might just have to wait it out.
Title: Re: ICUT Evaluation virtual radio
Post by: Eclipse on August 14, 2020, 12:35:17 am
Quote from: Holding Pattern on August 13, 2020, 10:35:07 pmset up the radio after 3 days of waiting (long enough for the virus to die without sanitizing)

This is something your research lab has uncovered?
The CDC only says "hours to days", your data must be new.

How about just stand a distance away, and both parties wear masks and gloves?

You can't just make up a number about things like this, that's how people get hurt.
Title: Re: ICUT Evaluation virtual radio
Post by: Holding Pattern on August 14, 2020, 05:53:32 am
Quote from: Eclipse on August 14, 2020, 12:35:17 am
Quote from: Holding Pattern on August 13, 2020, 10:35:07 pmset up the radio after 3 days of waiting (long enough for the virus to die without sanitizing)

This is something your research lab has uncovered?
The CDC only says "hours to days", your data must be new.

How about just stand a distance away, and both parties wear masks and gloves?

You can't just make up a number about things like this, that's how people get hurt.

It's unfortunate you completely glossed over the part of my post where I said that the OP should talk with his chain of command, his comms team, and his safety team to build a better strategy then one I quickly wrote up for a post on captalk.

No one asked me nor ordered me to draw up a full activity, safety analysis, and action plan for this so I don't have the ICS forms filled out either, sorry.
Title: Re: ICUT Evaluation virtual radio
Post by: Eclipse on August 14, 2020, 12:55:44 pm
No. I called out the fact that you "decided" C19 does not live more then 3 days on surfaces and objects.

A dangerous assertion especially in this context.
Title: Re: ICUT Evaluation virtual radio
Post by: usaf_defender on August 14, 2020, 08:04:27 pm
Quote from: Eclipse on August 14, 2020, 12:55:44 pmNo. I called out the fact that you "decided" C19 does not live more then 3 days on surfaces and objects.

A dangerous assertion especially in this context.
I highly doubt that was intended to put anyone's safety at risk. Nor does bickering help answer this poor guy's question.


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