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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: Holding Pattern on March 24, 2020, 05:19:30 pm

Title: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: Holding Pattern on March 24, 2020, 05:19:30 pm
Given that all the haircut locations are closed for safety reasons, will grooming standards be temporarily relaxed for uniform wear on missions?

(I really thought we needed to make a COVID-19 uniform question thread, so future threads don't get devolved into uniform questions. Hopefully this beat the punch!)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: Eclipse on March 24, 2020, 05:46:33 pm
I can't begin to imagine something less important to worry about, ask about, or even bring up.
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: OldGuy on March 24, 2020, 05:50:25 pm
Quote from: Eclipse on March 24, 2020, 05:46:33 pmI can't begin to imagine something less important to worry about, ask about, or even bring up.
We aren't doing anything because of ORM issues, right? Why not discuss grooming standards?

(In fact we are gearing up for missions - multiple likely soon - as we speak, but from what I have seen here no one believes that there is anything we can do, so why not talk haircuts?)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: 1st Lt Thompson on March 24, 2020, 06:20:14 pm
As a matter of fact yes, you are free to relax on grooming standards during missions, provided you wear the blue flight suit, blue bdu's, polo shirt etc. If wearing an Air Force style uniform, then you must meet grooming standards as outlined in CAPR 39-1.
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 06:34:59 pm
I cut my own hair. Problem resolved.
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: NIN on March 24, 2020, 06:48:23 pm
Quote from: 1st Lt Thompson on March 24, 2020, 06:20:14 pmAs a matter of fact yes, you are free to relax on grooming standards during missions, provided you wear the blue flight suit, blue bdu's, polo shirt etc. If wearing an Air Force style uniform, then you must meet grooming standards as outlined in CAPR 39-1.

Unless you're CAP Special Ops (CAPSOC), then its relaxed grooming standards and max per-diem at all times.

#TierZero
#noIamnotserious
#SocialDistancingLeadsToAdvancedSarcasm
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: kcebnaes on March 24, 2020, 06:57:53 pm
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 06:34:59 pmI cut my own hair. Problem resolved.

Not as easy for the rest of us! ;)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 07:02:34 pm
Quote from: kcebnaes on March 24, 2020, 06:57:53 pm
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 06:34:59 pmI cut my own hair. Problem resolved.

Not as easy for the rest of us! ;)

Oh, nonsense, Sean. I'll drive over and cut your hair.
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: kcebnaes on March 24, 2020, 07:12:28 pm
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 07:02:34 pm
Quote from: kcebnaes on March 24, 2020, 06:57:53 pm
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 06:34:59 pmI cut my own hair. Problem resolved.

Not as easy for the rest of us! ;)

Oh, nonsense, Sean. I'll drive over and cut your hair.

Please do. I'm like three weeks beyond what is socially acceptable. Might need to put the classic SkyHornet look soon..
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 08:10:21 pm
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51qyxCDKMtL._AC_.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: foo on March 25, 2020, 03:38:42 am
(https://i.ibb.co/yqdpQcb/airmanhaircut.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: NIN on March 25, 2020, 04:05:56 am
That Stover guy must be a Navy SEAL with that hairstyle! (BTW, awesome photoshop job)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: kcebnaes on March 25, 2020, 12:02:57 pm
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 08:10:21 pm(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51qyxCDKMtL._AC_.jpg)

Honestly getting closer and closer.
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: DocJekyll on March 25, 2020, 06:06:58 pm
Quote from: NIN on March 24, 2020, 06:48:23 pm
Quote from: 1st Lt Thompson on March 24, 2020, 06:20:14 pmAs a matter of fact yes, you are free to relax on grooming standards during missions, provided you wear the blue flight suit, blue bdu's, polo shirt etc. If wearing an Air Force style uniform, then you must meet grooming standards as outlined in CAPR 39-1.

Unless you're CAP Special Ops (CAPSOC), then its relaxed grooming standards and max per-diem at all times.

#TierZero
#noIamnotserious
#SocialDistancingLeadsToAdvancedSarcasm

Well there goes the best kept secret of the best kept secret of the AF. lol.
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: supertigerCH on March 27, 2020, 11:30:11 pm
Quote from: NIN on March 24, 2020, 06:48:23 pm
Quote from: 1st Lt Thompson on March 24, 2020, 06:20:14 pmAs a matter of fact yes, you are free to relax on grooming standards during missions, provided you wear the blue flight suit, blue bdu's, polo shirt etc. If wearing an Air Force style uniform, then you must meet grooming standards as outlined in CAPR 39-1.

Unless you're CAP Special Ops (CAPSOC), then its relaxed grooming standards and max per-diem at all times.

#TierZero
#noIamnotserious
#SocialDistancingLeadsToAdvancedSarcasm


Is CAPCAPOC included in CAPSOC when mobilized on Air Force orders? 

:)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: SarDragon on March 27, 2020, 11:39:09 pm
Quote from: supertigerCH on March 27, 2020, 11:30:11 pm
Quote from: NIN on March 24, 2020, 06:48:23 pm
Quote from: 1st Lt Thompson on March 24, 2020, 06:20:14 pmAs a matter of fact yes, you are free to relax on grooming standards during missions, provided you wear the blue flight suit, blue bdu's, polo shirt etc. If wearing an Air Force style uniform, then you must meet grooming standards as outlined in CAPR 39-1.

Unless you're CAP Special Ops (CAPSOC), then its relaxed grooming standards and max per-diem at all times.

#TierZero
#noIamnotserious
#SocialDistancingLeadsToAdvancedSarcasm


Is CAPCAPOC included in CAPSOC when mobilized on Air Force orders? 

:)

Do you have a need-to-know?
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: PHall on March 28, 2020, 01:23:59 am
The fact that he asked in the first place shows he doesn't have a need to know.
The appropriate authorities have been notified.
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: NIN on March 28, 2020, 02:43:14 am
Now that the barber shops are closed, I am kind of worried about my dress and appearance.....

(https://i.imgur.com/SHIZ5gP.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: SarDragon on March 28, 2020, 03:59:47 am
I doubt your hair will even be out of reg by 4 May.  ;)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: Spam on March 28, 2020, 05:57:27 am
No half and half for NINs white Russians... the dude will use Eagle Brand condensed milk instead.


Arf arf arf
- Spam
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: SARDOC on March 30, 2020, 04:35:25 pm
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 08:10:21 pm(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51qyxCDKMtL._AC_.jpg)

That head clearly has a 5 O'clock shadow.  Hippie.
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: TheSkyHornet on March 30, 2020, 06:29:03 pm
Quote from: SARDOC on March 30, 2020, 04:35:25 pm
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 08:10:21 pmimage

That head clearly has a 5 O'clock shadow.  Hippie.

Keeps the reflection minimal in low-light
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: supertigerCH on March 31, 2020, 03:05:45 am
Quote from: SARDOC on March 30, 2020, 04:35:25 pm
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on March 24, 2020, 08:10:21 pm(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51qyxCDKMtL._AC_.jpg)

That head clearly has a 5 O'clock shadow.  Hippie.


or perhaps a medical profile?  (for the record, i'm not a physician)
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: Holding Pattern on April 07, 2020, 05:32:05 pm
Quote from: Eclipse on March 24, 2020, 05:46:33 pmI can't begin to imagine something less important to worry about, ask about, or even bring up.

It would appear NHQ has weighed in against you on this one.


https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/CAPR_391_Grooming_Waiver_Updated_9470BA7CE8F86.pdf
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: arajca on April 07, 2020, 05:40:05 pm
They likely had a number of folks asking their wing/cc for guidance, who in turn asked for official guidance from National. Not a major issue, but if enough people are asking, it is better to set policy then to ignore them.
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: 1st Lt Thompson on April 07, 2020, 06:31:14 pm
That link is now dead, here's the latest version:

https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/391_Grooming_Waiver_Corrected_V_4_EF5AE1B03E531.pdf
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: Kayll'b on April 07, 2020, 10:53:02 pm
Obviously though, if I don't wear my uniform (I have no need to as our virtual meetings are in civies) it doesn't matter at all to me, correct?
Title: Re: COVID-19 Grooming standards question
Post by: arajca on April 07, 2020, 11:24:44 pm
Correct.