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Operations => Tools of the trade => Topic started by: Eclipse on January 07, 2019, 02:42:24 AM

Title: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Eclipse on January 07, 2019, 02:42:24 AM
Anyone know if there is a program or path to get Win10 keys for machines
donated to CAP that don't have an OS? 

These were enterprise machines that require a VLA server, so they come up as "not activated"
when they are removed from the domain.

I'm waiting for a quote from CCB, and will get them there is necessary, but if there's a way NHQ will
cover them, K-SARA.

(Since these will be used primarily for web access I may well put Ubuntu on them with Open Office, or turn them into Chromebooks,
with Cloudready, but I also have several Surface's that would need Windows).
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: arajca on January 07, 2019, 02:57:34 AM
Have you checked on TechSoup.org?
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Eclipse on January 07, 2019, 03:22:34 AM
Have you checked on TechSoup.org?

Yes.

"Eligible organizations may place only one request ever for Microsoft Get Genuine Windows operating system products. Additionally, these products may not be returned. The request may be for up to 50 licenses of any combination of Get Genuine products."

Humorously, emphasis their's...
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: NovemberWhiskey on January 08, 2019, 03:10:00 AM
There are a number of clearinghouses for OEM licenses if that is an option that works for you; e.g. kinguin.net
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Eclipse on January 08, 2019, 03:35:08 AM
There are a number of clearinghouses for OEM licenses if that is an option that works for you; e.g. kinguin.net

They seem to have a really good online rep.
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Ozzy on January 08, 2019, 02:02:30 PM
I ended up buying an eBay Win 10 Pro and 2016 Office keys. They worked perfectly and only cost me I believe $20 together
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Spaceman3750 on January 08, 2019, 03:46:59 PM
I ended up buying an eBay Win 10 Pro and 2016 Office keys. They worked perfectly and only cost me I believe $20 together

They are probably cracked (illegal) keys.

The issue with OEM keys is that they’re intended (read: licensed for) for system builders, not aftermarket, at least as far as I know.
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: JeffDG on January 08, 2019, 06:39:44 PM
I ended up buying an eBay Win 10 Pro and 2016 Office keys. They worked perfectly and only cost me I believe $20 together

They are probably cracked (illegal) keys.

The issue with OEM keys is that they’re intended (read: licensed for) for system builders, not aftermarket, at least as far as I know.

Yeah, I don't think you can legally buy OEM keys and apply them to some other hardware.  They are sold licensed to a particular piece of hardware and are non-transferable.

(Former IT License Management Guy at Fortune 500)
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Eclipse on January 08, 2019, 06:45:42 PM
I might be able to register as a refurbisher and get legit copies of Windows at prices similar to OEM.

Still haven't heard back from CCB.

Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: JeffDG on January 08, 2019, 07:10:04 PM
I might be able to register as a refurbisher and get legit copies of Windows at prices similar to OEM.

Still haven't heard back from CCB.
You could just register your unit for TechSoup and use your one annual purchase opportunity...
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: JeffDG on January 08, 2019, 07:15:10 PM
Out of curiosity...

Do these PCs have an OEM License sticker on them?

Even if they were previously licensed on a corporate account, their OEM License should still be valid for that hardware.  Many corporations buy PCs, and then license windows Pro/Enterprise on top of their OEM license that came from the vendor.  When you remove them from their KMS server, they can be reloaded with their original OEM licenses.
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Eclipse on January 08, 2019, 07:37:11 PM
Out of curiosity...

Do these PCs have an OEM License sticker on them?

Even if they were previously licensed on a corporate account, their OEM License should still be valid for that hardware.  Many corporations buy PCs, and then license windows Pro/Enterprise on top of their OEM license that came from the vendor.  When you remove them from their KMS server, they can be reloaded with their original OEM licenses.

Some do, some don't, and those that do are Windows 7 that was not upgraded to 10 during the free period.

A lot of them were ordered with either no OS or Linux.

So TechSoup is allowing individual units to purchase vs. CAP as a whole?
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: arajca on January 08, 2019, 09:25:45 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: JeffDG on January 08, 2019, 10:14:48 PM
So TechSoup is allowing individual units to purchase vs. CAP as a whole?
I have set up and made purchases for our Wing separate from NHQ.

I have not tried this particular item, however.

Same way, our Wing has a Google Apps for Nonprofits account, using the same EIN as NHQ, but our account is completely separate from National's, or other wing/units who have signed up.
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Fubar on January 09, 2019, 07:59:51 AM
So TechSoup is allowing individual units to purchase vs. CAP as a whole?

Yes, can confirm multiple units in my wing use TechSoup for stuff, including MS products.
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Holding Pattern on January 11, 2019, 05:24:27 PM
The Windows 10 Enterprise Charity SKU is: KV3-00257

Google that, and the resellers shall appear.

Price should be between $37-40.

If you are worried about sketchy sites, CDW is commonly used by many big companies and has it for $39.99.

I do not know what their validation mechanism is.
Title: Re: Windows Licensing for donated PCs from NHQ?
Post by: Eclipse on January 11, 2019, 05:29:23 PM
If it's CDW you can pretty much count on it being as convoluted, complicated, and prolonged as possible.

I've been working on a single copy of Acrobat for a client for about a week now.