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Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: Jester on January 06, 2019, 04:30:06 PM

Title: GES in person
Post by: Jester on January 06, 2019, 04:30:06 PM
Iíve seen slides for GES, but if how is this training documented in eservices?
Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: Pace on January 06, 2019, 04:51:28 PM
GES training is documented through completion of CAPT 116 - GES. Pass the online test, and it will be automatically documented in e-services.
Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: Eclipse on January 06, 2019, 04:54:49 PM
I seem to recall a testing officer could download a copy of the paper test, though that
was >quite< a while ago (the 116 itself now celebrating its 10th birthday).

The preferred practice is doing it online.
Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: Jester on January 06, 2019, 06:51:16 PM
Iíd rather knock out all new members at once than hound them to complete the online test at home.

Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: Stonewall on January 06, 2019, 07:25:21 PM
Iíd rather knock out all new members at once than hound them to complete the online test at home.

This SHOULD be an option. I watched my son take GES a few months ago and realized it was antiquated and most was irrelevant to someone at the GES level.
Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: jeders on January 06, 2019, 11:26:19 PM
Iíve seen slides for GES, but if how is this training documented in eservices?

The slides are used for giving the class, however, the training is only completed and documented once the online test has been passed. There is no longer a paper test (I've looked...many times).
Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: Eclipse on January 06, 2019, 11:37:11 PM
I've always felt that GES was at best mis-aimed, and at worse irrelevant.

The idea that CAP has rules and regs about ES and that disobeying them has consequences,
potentially even outside the organization, is important, but the average new member
gets so mired in "posse-comi-whatus again?", they lose focus on what they actually can do.

No new member at the GES level, and zero cadets, can make the commitments or most of the mistakes
discussed as they have neither the access nor the authority, and the question about things like annual
ES plans, etc., aren't to the rank and file operators.

Private property rules, etc., are important, but would be better handled as part of the respective training
instead of a top-level test taken before the member even understands 1/2 the terms.

It's likely an actuary somewhere who wanted to easily pull a list down that says "see we told you not to do that"
in a court room.

Same goes for the FEMA stuff which a lot of member just blow through with the F3 key and never really "get".
Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: Holding Pattern on January 11, 2019, 05:33:56 PM
Aren't you able to use multi-entry -> GES to do it classroom style?
Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: TheSkyHornet on January 11, 2019, 05:39:20 PM
Same goes for the FEMA stuff which a lot of member just blow through with the F3 key and never really "get".

Teach people to blow through it with the F5 key instead.
Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: Eclipse on January 11, 2019, 05:45:54 PM
Same goes for the FEMA stuff which a lot of member just blow through with the F3 key and never really "get".

Teach people to blow through it with the F5 key instead.

That would certainly keep the hamster busy...
Title: Re: GES in person
Post by: Jester on January 11, 2019, 10:41:30 PM
Aren't you able to use multi-entry -> GES to do it classroom style?
I didnít think of that, Iíll try it.