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Cadet Programs => Encampments & NCSAs => Topic started by: jb3 on September 26, 2018, 09:00:20 AM

Title: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: jb3 on September 26, 2018, 09:00:20 AM
The 2018 Far East Winter Encampment is tentatively planned for 15-22 December at Camp Humphreys and Osan Air Base, Republic of Korea. More details will be forthcoming. This encampment is primarily for cadets at Korea, Japan, and Okinawa but it is open to any member who wants to make the journey.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: NIN on September 26, 2018, 02:27:44 PM
Oh dear. Not sure what I'd feel like seeing the modern-day Cp Humphreys. :)

(I was there 30+ years ago... )
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: Jester on September 26, 2018, 03:11:30 PM
Need seniors?  Iíll go for a space-A flight.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: abdsp51 on September 26, 2018, 04:00:43 PM
Need seniors?  Iíll go for a space-A flight.

As CAP or retired mil?  If you are looking at going as CAP you need to start the legwork now on all of the approvals.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: Jester on September 26, 2018, 04:05:22 PM
Nah, Iím like the Wolf in Pulp Fiction, I just show up and crush problems.

I donít even know how space A as a CAP member works, especially since Iím not a retiree and the rotator isnít a military aircraft.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: abdsp51 on September 26, 2018, 04:14:38 PM
Nah, Iím like the Wolf in Pulp Fiction, I just show up and crush problems.

I donít even know how space A as a CAP member works, especially since Iím not a retiree and the rotator isnít a military aircraft.

If you are trying to hop on the rotator out of Seattle good luck that flight gets booked quick and it's considered a military flight.  And there are some steps that have to be taken for CAP to fly on mil aircraft outside of o-flights.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: TheSkyHornet on September 26, 2018, 05:17:36 PM
Nah, Iím like the Wolf in Pulp Fiction, I just show up and crush problems.

New towels would be nice.

Or at least fancy coffee.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: NIN on September 26, 2018, 06:26:14 PM
New towels would be nice.

Or at least fancy coffee.

(https://i.imgur.com/3fVOlZK.png)

Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: jb3 on September 26, 2018, 09:34:46 PM
Oh dear. Not sure what I'd feel like seeing the modern-day Cp Humphreys. :)

(I was there 30+ years ago... )

Camp Humphreys today is a whole different world and gets more impressive each day. It's still not Seoul but it's not bad. I won't comment on the weather in December though because I'm not trying to scare people away from our encampment...
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: PHall on September 26, 2018, 10:01:02 PM
Oh dear. Not sure what I'd feel like seeing the modern-day Cp Humphreys. :)

(I was there 30+ years ago... )

Camp Humphreys today is a whole different world and gets more impressive each day. It's still not Seoul but it's not bad. I won't comment on the weather in December though because I'm not trying to scare people away from our encampment...

I wouldn't worry too much about that. We have people who willingly go to Alaska Wing Winter Encampments!
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: NIN on September 26, 2018, 10:04:22 PM
Camp Humphreys today is a whole different world and gets more impressive each day. It's still not Seoul but it's not bad. I won't comment on the weather in December though because I'm not trying to scare people away from our encampment...

Yeahhhh....  I recall a snowball fight out in front of our barracks about a week before Christmas.

(It wasn't the snowball fight itself, it was that the sewer line for the barracks building was close to the surface and at one point I hit the ground, and apparently I cracked it open. I hadn't worn my N3B parka but about 3-4 times the whole time I was in Korea (3 years), and now its got, uh, ahem, "stuff" on it. 2 days before I'm supposed to clear unit supply..)

Rotten luck.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: Slim on September 27, 2018, 06:44:49 AM
Rotten luck.
Pun intended?
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: jb3 on September 28, 2018, 07:58:03 AM
I have quite a bit of experience with Space Available flights to Korea and I don't recommend them for anybody who plans to attend the encampment. The dates for the encampment are not flexible and the flights are not reliable. It isn't cheap to fly to Korea but it is worth it. Once in a lifetime opportunity.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: PHall on September 28, 2018, 12:15:40 PM
Space A used to be a fairly reliable way to travel back when the MAC Channel system was in place. Not anymore.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: MSG Mac on September 28, 2018, 02:55:18 PM
Flights from the east coast to Inchon run about $1500 r/t
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: jb3 on October 04, 2018, 08:24:33 AM
**Official Announcement***
2018 Winter Far East Basic Cadet Encampment

What: Osan Air Base Cadet Squadron will host the 2018 Winter Far East Basic Cadet Encampment
Where: Camp Humphreys and Osan Air Base, Republic of Korea
When: 15 – 22 December 2018
Who: Priority goes to Cadets and Senior Members of Korea, Japan, and Okinawa based
squadrons. US based members interested in attending should inquire early via email as
there are additional considerations for members not stationed in Asia.
Cost: $175 per cadet. This covers all meals, lodging, transportation during encampment, administration, and
logistics costs. Transportation to and from Korea is members’ responsibility.

Key Dates
15 OCT notification of intent to attend
15 OCT staff applications due
1 NOV cadet applications due
1 NOV staff selection
Squadron email: OsanCivilAirPatrol@Gmail.com
Encampment Commander: Lt Col Joshua Bauer Joshua
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on October 04, 2018, 09:01:22 AM
**Official Announcement***
2018 Winter Far East Basic Cadet Encampment

What: Osan Air Base Cadet Squadron will host the 2018 Winter Far East Basic Cadet Encampment
Where: Camp Humphreys and Osan Air Base, Republic of Korea
When: 15 Ė 22 December 2018
Who: Priority goes to Cadets and Senior Members of Korea, Japan, and Okinawa based
squadrons. US based members interested in attending should inquire early via email as
there are additional considerations for members not stationed in Asia.
Cost: $175 per cadet. This covers all meals, lodging, transportation, administration, and
logistics costs.

Key Dates
15 OCT notification of intent to attend
15 OCT staff applications due
1 NOV cadet applications due
1 NOV staff selection
Squadron email: OsanCivilAirPatrol@Gmail.com
Encampment Commander: Lt Col Joshua Bauer Joshua

Covers ď...all transportation?Ē You might want to clarify that before some cadet in Pennsylvania thinks heís going to Korea for $175.


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Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: jb3 on October 04, 2018, 10:25:49 AM
Good call. Correction made.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: abdsp51 on October 04, 2018, 03:17:17 PM
Might want to check with JA and SFS about unaccompanied minors as well.  Plus there is the DBIDS issue.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: jb3 on October 05, 2018, 08:58:31 AM
Good advice. We are good with both. The process is not automatic but we have recent practice with both the Army and Air Force systems so personnel access to the bases shouldn't be an issue.

JB
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: abdsp51 on October 05, 2018, 01:11:30 PM
Good advice. We are good with both. The process is not automatic but we have recent practice with both the Army and Air Force systems so personnel access to the bases shouldn't be an issue.

JB

You might not have issues with it but Korean Immigration and customs might. 
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: Eclipse on October 05, 2018, 01:29:00 PM
You might not have issues with it but Korean Immigration and customs might.

My experience with leaving the country begins and ends with Toronto.

Presumably a cadet would need a passport, and a Visa?

Any other special permissions?

I also hadn't considered the UM issue.  I imagine it's allowed in theory, but is this something people
do on a regular basis, especially internationally?

Just curious.
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: abdsp51 on October 05, 2018, 01:44:59 PM
Passport and visa a must.   Plus Incheon is a busy airport and Korean customs and immigration are meticulous.  No knives over 3in, no medication unless you have a script and original bottles, etc. 

Not to mention that SOFA would not apply to cadets not carrying a dependent ID. 

Now sounds like the logistics covered but how are stateside cadets who may potentially go get from Incheon to Osan and Humphries?
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: jb3 on October 05, 2018, 11:26:11 PM
All of the points that are being raised are valid and have been considered. We have actually done this a couple of times already and have had cadets from the US participate in previous encampments both here in Korea and Okinawa. We understand the procedures for immigrations, customs, non-SOFA status, base access, etc. We are currently in contact with a number of US based personnel interested in the encampment and we will provide them all the details necessary to make an educated decision. The details are too lengthy to post on this site though but feel free to contact me directly and I can answer any questions.

With that said, I do appreciate the feedback. Keep the comments coming because although we've done this more than once, we are still learning.

JB
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: abdsp51 on October 06, 2018, 12:10:53 AM
All of the points that are being raised are valid and have been considered. We have actually done this a couple of times already and have had cadets from the US participate in previous encampments both here in Korea and Okinawa. We understand the procedures for immigrations, customs, non-SOFA status, base access, etc. We are currently in contact with a number of US based personnel interested in the encampment and we will provide them all the details necessary to make an educated decision. The details are too lengthy to post on this site though but feel free to contact me directly and I can answer any questions.

With that said, I do appreciate the feedback. Keep the comments coming because although we've done this more than once, we are still learning.

JB

Have you met and obtained the approval of the RWG?
Title: Re: 2018 Far East Winter Encampment (Korea)
Post by: MSG Mac on October 18, 2018, 04:03:33 AM
Just checked and while immunizations are not required the following are recommended: Flu, Hep A, Hep B, Typhoid, and DTP.