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Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: Eclipse on September 11, 2018, 10:17:47 PM

Title: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Eclipse on September 11, 2018, 10:17:47 PM
Not gonna lie, this looks scary...

(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT06/refresh/AL062018_wind_probs_34_F120+png/212435.png)

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/#Florence

https://www.cap.news/cap-wings-ramp-up-preparations-as-hurricane-florence-advances/

Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Starbird on September 11, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
Very scary.  Glad CAP is lending a hand..
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: THRAWN on September 12, 2018, 08:16:32 AM
Yeah. My aunt, Florence, and my mother, Helen(e), don't seem very happy.....

I'm gonna be staffing the US DoT desk at FEMA R3 for the next week or so. If you're tasked, don't do anything aggressively stupid. If you're not tasked, stay home. There's enough to do without having to pull a self deployed "asset" out of a pickle.

Keep on, keepin' on....
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Starbird on September 12, 2018, 10:23:47 AM
Yeah. My aunt, Florence, and my mother, Helen(e), don't seem very happy.....

I'm gonna be staffing the US DoT desk at FEMA R3 for the next week or so. If you're tasked, don't do anything aggressively stupid. If you're not tasked, stay home. There's enough to do without having to pull a self deployed "asset" out of a pickle.

Keep on, keepin' on....

Yes, the situation is unfortunate... I am certainly not happy that the hurricane is going to hit.  I hope there aren't members out there who are excited for the impending storm, just so they get to "see some action"or whatever.  I 100% agree with your statement.

That being said, I am glad that given the events that we (CAP as an organization) are able to lend a hand and support the relief efforts, should we be needed. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Live2Learn on September 12, 2018, 11:41:46 AM
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/092830.shtml?mltoa34#contents (https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/092830.shtml?mltoa34#contents)

Link above to a graphic that shows expcted arrival of storm force winds on the coast and inland as the hurricane moves westward.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: LSThiker on September 12, 2018, 02:25:12 PM
I hope there aren't members out there who are excited for the impending storm, just so they get to "see some action"or whatever.   

Speak for yourself man.  I want a free remodel on my house--new roof, some new drywall, new floors--like I did in a previous Hurricane.  I am paying for Storm Insurance, might as well use my investment.  >:D   :angel:

<And yes Francis, lighten up>
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: TheSkyHornet on September 12, 2018, 02:59:11 PM
I hope there aren't members out there who are excited for the impending storm, just so they get to "see some action"or whatever.

You'll always have a few people who are psyched over an impeding disaster. It gives validation to the organization, and gives an individual purpose. It's kind of like sitting around waiting for the big fight to happen, and when it doesn't, you get bored. You don't want anyone to get hurt, but you want the action.

That said, CAP's biggest missions come from persons facing death, or at least severe injury. I hope that nobody's action comes at the cost of someone's life, anyone's.

Training for this stuff can be exciting, and it can give you a taste to want the real deal. Even when responding to the real thing, you may have a taste for it. It's adrenaline. This is what you're trained to do. But there's a whole aftermath that comes with it that people don't really think about until it hits you in the face.

Stay safe out there, everyone. And if you get the call, get some.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: radioguy on September 12, 2018, 04:59:52 PM
And to think that I moved to NC from FL when I retired so that I wouldn't have to deal with these storms!

 ::)
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Eclipse on September 14, 2018, 12:16:51 PM
There was palpable disappointment on the various news outlets when it became obvious
it would make landfall as "less then a major storm" (ultimately a CAT 2) while
under-breath wishing about "it gaining strength before landfall".

90Mph winds and 8 months of rain is nothing to trifle with, but news outlets already
trying to spin it beyond what it is.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: JacobAnn on September 15, 2018, 08:18:32 AM
There was palpable disappointment on the various news outlets when it became obvious
it would make landfall as "less then a major storm" (ultimately a CAT 2) while
under-breath wishing about "it gaining strength before landfall".

90Mph winds and 8 months of rain is nothing to trifle with, but news outlets already
trying to spin it beyond what it is.

Don't they pretty much do that with everything?
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: SarDragon on September 15, 2018, 02:04:44 PM
There was palpable disappointment on the various news outlets when it became obvious
it would make landfall as "less then a major storm" (ultimately a CAT 2) while
under-breath wishing about "it gaining strength before landfall".

90Mph winds and 8 months of rain is nothing to trifle with, but news outlets already
trying to spin it beyond what it is.
People in the affected areas seem to get complacent about these storms, and the news folks are trying to get these people thinking seriously about what's really in store for them.
I'm unsure of your specific experience with hurricanes/tropical storms, but I have been involved in two - Donna in 1960, and Camille in 1969. The coverage you see on The Weather Channel only give a hint of what's happening on site.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: PHall on September 15, 2018, 02:56:39 PM
There was palpable disappointment on the various news outlets when it became obvious
it would make landfall as "less then a major storm" (ultimately a CAT 2) while
under-breath wishing about "it gaining strength before landfall".

90Mph winds and 8 months of rain is nothing to trifle with, but news outlets already
trying to spin it beyond what it is.
People in the affected areas seem to get complacent about these storms, and the news folks are trying to get these people thinking seriously about what's really in store for them.
I'm unsure of your specific experience with hurricanes/tropical storms, but I have been involved in two - Donna in 1960, and Camille in 1969. The coverage you see on The Weather Channel only give a hint of what's happening on site.

And even the Weather Channel tends to hype stuff too.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Spam on September 15, 2018, 03:19:02 PM

It hearkens back to the basic principles of yellow journalism and marketing their product. If it bleeds it leads was the old saying. Without Xtreme Weather! Then they have less of an exciting product as a specialty Channel.

Plus, it fits with certain political agendas of different stripes. They get disappointed if they can't point to increasingly horrible weather as justification for their points of view and for scoring points against whomever the opposition is.

So tired of it...



Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Eclipse on September 15, 2018, 03:26:47 PM
There was palpable disappointment on the various news outlets when it became obvious
it would make landfall as "less then a major storm" (ultimately a CAT 2) while
under-breath wishing about "it gaining strength before landfall".

90Mph winds and 8 months of rain is nothing to trifle with, but news outlets already
trying to spin it beyond what it is.
People in the affected areas seem to get complacent about these storms, and the news folks are trying to get these people thinking seriously about what's really in store for them.
I'm unsure of your specific experience with hurricanes/tropical storms, but I have been involved in two - Donna in 1960, and Camille in 1969. The coverage you see on The Weather Channel only give a hint of what's happening on site.

I had a micro-burst come down almost directly on the house last July, that lasted about 1 minute,
and was terrifying enough - I can't imagine what it must be like for that to be sustained for hours to days.

My point was that reality is plenty scary enough without wishing it was worse, etc., but these days
it's all about the clicks, so there you are.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Eclipse on September 15, 2018, 06:16:11 PM
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: SarDragon on September 16, 2018, 03:24:07 AM
Oh, it's even better than that. If you look closely at the video, the wind is blowing the vegetation in the same direction he is leaning, i.e from behind him.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on September 16, 2018, 06:33:28 AM
You know, it makes me think.

How many times we have seen similar news clips and never had people in the background to compare?

How many more clowns out there like him?
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: NIN on September 16, 2018, 07:34:58 AM
Then again, 7 years ago we're watching the Weather Channel and Jim Cantore is live in a boat going down a street in West Pittston, PA narrating the flood damage, and his cameraman pans over to my buddy's house and the water is halfway up the front windows... Not fake news there.

:(
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: docsteve on September 16, 2018, 06:17:43 PM
It's not fake news in the Carolinas, either,  unless you buy into the conspiracy theory that Florence is fake.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Eclipse on September 16, 2018, 06:22:18 PM
Before this goes sideways, no one says it's fake news, and like a lot of these, the flooding
will be a lot more devastating then the storm itself.

The only thing "fake" is the typical media hyperbole and overhype that puts the attention
too early / too long / or in the wrong place.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on September 16, 2018, 07:12:44 PM
No one has said "what happened in Carolina is fake."

Did you watch the video? The media guy is saying "oh it is very difficult to walk right know" and is walking like this \

While behind him two guys are walking like this | |

What people are saying he is fake. Him, not Flo! Look at the video!!!
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence - September 2018
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on September 17, 2018, 02:20:50 PM
Weather Channel defends this clown's reporting by saying "he was tired, he was standing in grass while two guys behind him are walking in concrete."

Never mind we also see the grass and wind-blown junk moving in the direction he is saying the wind is coming from. If the wind would be coming the way he is saying, grass and wind-blown junk would move in the other direction.

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