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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: I_Am_Twigs on April 30, 2018, 05:48:15 PM

Title: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: I_Am_Twigs on April 30, 2018, 05:48:15 PM
So we have a set of shoulder boards at my squadron that I was allowed to take home and use to sew Velcro onto my blues. I was planning to use these but I have one problem, they have holes in them from when a C/Capt wore them. Is there any way I could get these holes out or would I have to go buy a new pair? I would like to use these because I don't want to go buy a new pair that are $30+, but I would also like them to look nice so I'm not walking around with holes in my boards.

Also any tips for sewing the Velcro in? I was planning to just do a couple strips on both ends, would that work well enough? I want it to be able to fit a cord under the board as well. I'm doing this on a newer style enlisted coat as well.

I had another question, but I've forgotten it guess I'll come back when I remember it  :P
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Levi Lockling on April 30, 2018, 07:14:41 PM
Don't worry about the holes. They're not worth $30. If someone feels the need to nitpick, then they're wrong.

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Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Eclipse on May 01, 2018, 03:29:06 AM
Don't sweat the holes, no will notice.

As to Velcro, if you go with a good heavy-duty / industrial type made for outdoor
use, and don't fiddle with them too mych, you should be able to glue them on without
sewing (or then maybe take a needle and hand-stitch the corners once they are glued.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: SarDragon on May 01, 2018, 04:27:24 AM
I would be VERY careful about "industrial" strength Velcro. Test it to see how much effort it takes to separate it. I have some that I had to put almost my full weight on to get apart. The stuff you can buy through Vanguard (or equivalent) is more than enough to hold on your shoulder boards.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: TheSkyHornet on May 01, 2018, 11:47:25 AM
Lost me.

Why are you sewing Velcro onto your Blues to hold on your shoulder boards? Slip them over the epaulets.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Jester on May 01, 2018, 12:28:32 PM
Lost me.

Why are you sewing Velcro onto your Blues to hold on your shoulder boards? Slip them over the epaulets.
The cadet is using an enlisted coat.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: PHall on May 01, 2018, 12:29:46 PM
Lost me.

Why are you sewing Velcro onto your Blues to hold on your shoulder boards? Slip them over the epaulets.

Only the "Officers" version of the jacket has the epaulets. The "Enlisted" version doesn't have them.
The Enlisted version is cheaper and usually available since there are more Enlisted jackets out there.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Eclipse on May 01, 2018, 02:36:02 PM
By "industrial" I meant the adhesive, not the hooks and loops - you're right, some will
hook up so hard they could pull the material off the jacket.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: TheSkyHornet on May 01, 2018, 06:19:22 PM
Lost me.

Why are you sewing Velcro onto your Blues to hold on your shoulder boards? Slip them over the epaulets.
The cadet is using an enlisted coat.

Gotcha.

I was picturing a short-sleeved Blues shirt.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: PHall on May 01, 2018, 11:31:09 PM
Lost me.

Why are you sewing Velcro onto your Blues to hold on your shoulder boards? Slip them over the epaulets.
The cadet is using an enlisted coat.

Gotcha.

I was picturing a short-sleeved Blues shirt.

Yeah, we haven't worn shoulder boards on that shirt since about 1974.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: I_Am_Twigs on May 02, 2018, 12:01:01 AM
So yes, no? Should I get new boards or figure out a way to fix these ones? I was thinking maybe sharpie would make the holes a little less noticeable, has anyone tried that? And the holes do bother me, I'll survive if they stay but I'd much rather have neat/hole free boards.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Eclipse on May 02, 2018, 12:34:27 AM
Use the ones you have and ignore the holes.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on May 02, 2018, 12:44:54 AM
So yes, no? Should I get new boards or figure out a way to fix these ones? I was thinking maybe sharpie would make the holes a little less noticeable, has anyone tried that? And the holes do bother me, I'll survive if they stay but I'd much rather have neat/hole free boards.

In the old days, we used to pass them around. One set for C/2ndLt or C/Maj; another for two pips or diamonds, another for three. Or...wed just buy a second set before moving on to C/Maj (easier done when they cost $4.50 per pair).

The holes bothered me, when I wore shoulder boards. But there is no way to repair the holes. So, either live with them or buy another set. Your choice.


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Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Toad1168 on May 02, 2018, 01:46:23 AM
So yes, no? Should I get new boards or figure out a way to fix these ones? I was thinking maybe sharpie would make the holes a little less noticeable, has anyone tried that? And the holes do bother me, I'll survive if they stay but I'd much rather have neat/hole free boards.

In the old days, we used to pass them around. One set for C/2ndLt or C/Maj; another for two pips or diamonds, another for three. Or...wed just buy a second set before moving on to C/Maj (easier done when they cost $4.50 per pair).

The holes bothered me, when I wore shoulder boards. But there is no way to repair the holes. So, either live with them or buy another set. Your choice.

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And remember, it the holes bother you that much, you will end up buying two sets.  One now and one when you make C/Maj.

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Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: I_Am_Twigs on May 02, 2018, 03:31:28 AM
So yes, no? Should I get new boards or figure out a way to fix these ones? I was thinking maybe sharpie would make the holes a little less noticeable, has anyone tried that? And the holes do bother me, I'll survive if they stay but I'd much rather have neat/hole free boards.

In the old days, we used to pass them around. One set for C/2ndLt or C/Maj; another for two pips or diamonds, another for three. Or...wed just buy a second set before moving on to C/Maj (easier done when they cost $4.50 per pair).


I've been doing something similar with the ribbon racks, each time I return a rack I'll leave the cardboard that I used on the rack. I think I'll start something like that with the shoulder boards, we need more shoulder boards in the squadron anyway.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: I_Am_Twigs on May 02, 2018, 03:54:31 PM
I have an idea (might want to find you nearest bunker. ;D jk), what if a drop some clear glue or something then color it over with sharpie? Literally just came up with this and was wondering if it actually would work.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on May 02, 2018, 04:08:27 PM
No, no, NO! Glue will smear the uniform. The fabric mends itself when taking to the cleaners. Or if a shirt, when you wash it.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: I_Am_Twigs on May 02, 2018, 04:20:09 PM
No, no, NO! Glue will smear the uniform. The fabric mends itself when taking to the cleaners. Or if a shirt, when you wash it.

I'm talking about the shoulder boards and filling in the holes from captain/1st Lt insignia
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: I_Am_Twigs on May 02, 2018, 04:32:24 PM
So I tried the sharpie, it does make the holes a little less noticeable but they're still there. I'm thinking about dropping glue to fill in the holes then color that over. And just to clarify, this is all on the cadet shoulder boards, not the uniform.

Has anyone tried the glue? I might just try it and if it doesn't work then I guess I owe the squadron a pair of shoulder boards  ::)
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Eclipse on May 02, 2018, 05:24:39 PM
So...there's just no chance you FIMO this?

https://80000hours.org/problem-profiles/
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: SarDragon on May 02, 2018, 06:38:35 PM
So...there's just no chance you FIMO this?

https://80000hours.org/problem-profiles/ (https://80000hours.org/problem-profiles/)

FIMO? My Google-foo is weak today.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Eclipse on May 02, 2018, 07:05:36 PM
Forget It Move On
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on May 02, 2018, 10:25:26 PM
So I tried the sharpie, it does make the holes a little less noticeable but they're still there. I'm thinking about dropping glue to fill in the holes then color that over. And just to clarify, this is all on the cadet shoulder boards, not the uniform.

Has anyone tried the glue? I might just try it and if it doesn't work then I guess I owe the squadron a pair of shoulder boards  ::)

Jeezle weezle, youve heard from several people who have passed along direct knowledge going back to the 1960s  that the holes cant be repaired. Along with that knowledge, you have been provided with several options for how to live with the issue, ranging from buying more sets to borrowing untainted ones to simply living with it.

Asked and answered, already! Way past time to move on.


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Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: ColonelJack on May 03, 2018, 10:14:49 AM
Forget It Move On

I am so stealing appropriating that acronym, Bob.

Jack
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: LSThiker on May 03, 2018, 01:22:38 PM
Forget It Move On

I am so stealing appropriating that acronym, Bob.

Jack

You are neither stealing nor appropriate it.  It is a known abbreviation:

Definition #2:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FIMO

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Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: MSG Mac on May 03, 2018, 01:36:37 PM
Wear the used pair. No one should be close enough to see any minor wear and tear on the boards.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: Eclipse on May 03, 2018, 01:45:57 PM
Forget It Move On

I am so stealing appropriating that acronym, Bob.

Jack

It has myriad uses - I first heard it while teaching motorcycle riders.
Title: Re: Cadet shoulder boards
Post by: BraveRifles19D on May 14, 2018, 07:56:30 PM
Here is your solution. https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-cadet-officer-shoulder-board-for-service-coat

Just add your name, address and credit card number and in 7-10 days your problem will be solved.