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General Discussion => Membership => Topic started by: wmackirdy on February 04, 2018, 11:44:53 PM

Title: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: wmackirdy on February 04, 2018, 11:44:53 PM
The new National Website, on the Level II Training page, includes Lesson Plans, Student Guides, and Slides for SLS. Is it possible to take the course online, or does is it classroom only?
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: kwe1009 on February 05, 2018, 12:03:33 AM
SLS, CLC, and UCC are all available online.  You register through eServices.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: Fester on February 05, 2018, 12:51:11 AM
SLS, CLC, and UCC are all available online.  You register through eServices.

But all three require in-residence portions don't they?
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: grunt82abn on February 05, 2018, 01:21:25 AM
I did not have an in-residence for SLS, nor do I think the others have one either


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Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: arajca on February 05, 2018, 01:29:45 AM
All three are available in both on-line and in-person versions. The lesson plans, etc, are for the in-person version to allow directors, staff, and instructors to access them easily.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: Holding Pattern on February 05, 2018, 01:39:55 AM
There are also "blended" courses available in some areas.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: shuman14 on February 05, 2018, 01:58:36 AM
Question, would CAP allow non-members attend an in-residence course?

For an example an USCGAux member or a local volunteer search and rescue team looking for a basic leadership course for volunteers to attend?
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: arajca on February 05, 2018, 02:31:41 AM
Given that these are course specific to CAP, and are not general leadership type courses, I think it would a waste of their time.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: SarDragon on February 05, 2018, 10:21:35 AM
Given that these are course specific to CAP, and are not general leadership type courses, I think it would a waste of their time.

For the most part, agreed. There are tidbits in just about every lesson that could be considered general leadership, but it's mostly CAP-centric.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: kwe1009 on February 05, 2018, 03:20:17 PM
SLS, CLC, and UCC are all available online.  You register through eServices.

But all three require in-residence portions don't they?

All three are available 100% online.  SLS and CLC is also available 100% in residence.  UCC is available as a blended course with some online work and then an in residence piece.  You can't do UCC 100% in residence any longer.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: MDMike2017 on February 05, 2018, 05:10:40 PM
All 3 are available online and registered via eServices. I'm taking SLS online right now, but it's also offered locally wing-to-wing.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: MacGruff on February 05, 2018, 11:35:02 PM
I'd like to put a plug in for in-person attendance.

I have been through it myself, as well as taught it several times in the past months. There are two significant benefits to attending in-person that are not available to you if you take it on-line:

1.   While the slides and reading materials are standardized (and out of date in some cases), there is significant discussion that addresses the meaning and local implications of these that is irreplaceable
2.   Meeting other members of the organization who are at the same spot in their CAP "careers" leads to contacts that can prove to be very helpful

Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: kwe1009 on February 05, 2018, 11:40:44 PM
I'd like to put a plug in for in-person attendance.

I have been through it myself, as well as taught it several times in the past months. There are two significant benefits to attending in-person that are not available to you if you take it on-line:

1.   While the slides and reading materials are standardized (and out of date in some cases), there is significant discussion that addresses the meaning and local implications of these that is irreplaceable
2.   Meeting other members of the organization who are at the same spot in their CAP "careers" leads to contacts that can prove to be very helpful

Definitely agree.  Even if you already took the classes online, you will get a lot out of going back and doing it in residence.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: Fester on February 07, 2018, 12:08:41 AM
For those with experience doing SLS and CLC online....

From my understanding, these are a weekly "meeting" via teleconferencing. What nights do these courses usually meet?
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: Ozzy on February 07, 2018, 12:39:16 AM
For those with experience doing SLS and CLC online....

From my understanding, these are a weekly "meeting" via teleconferencing. What nights do these courses usually meet?

I did online CLC and we didn't have any teleconferencing. We had weekly reading and assignments and they were pass/fail with minimal effort from some of the participants. I was a bit disappointed with it honestly but I understand that is run by volunteers.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: Fester on February 07, 2018, 04:10:52 AM

I did online CLC and we didn't have any teleconferencing. We had weekly reading and assignments and they were pass/fail with minimal effort from some of the participants. I was a bit disappointed with it honestly but I understand that is run by volunteers.

Glad to hear it.  Weeknights and Weekends are when I work.  So pretty much every extra-curricular event (with a few irregular exceptions) don't fit in with my schedule.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: Brit_in_CAP on February 07, 2018, 01:40:13 PM
For those with experience doing SLS and CLC online....

From my understanding, these are a weekly "meeting" via teleconferencing. What nights do these courses usually meet?

I did online CLC and we didn't have any teleconferencing. We had weekly reading and assignments and they were pass/fail with minimal effort from some of the participants. I was a bit disappointed with it honestly but I understand that is run by volunteers.
I did the online SLS - no teleconference.  The online CLC is presented via Blackboard, which is a high quality web-based provider of online material for various organizations.  The presentation is good but there is no teleconference aspect to the class.  Regular participation is required to pass.  Ozzy's comment about minimal participation is an excellent observation, and it can apply to any class you take online.  One of my work colleagues took a bachelor's degree via the Phoenix online system; the material was good, and the outcomes were excellent, but she deliberately took a break at one point so that she was taken out of a particular 'learning group' due to several of that cohort not supporting the team effort but still getting passing grades.  The equivalent to sitting at the back of the room and staying quiet, I suppose!

Here's my 10 cents...spend wisely!  Online isn't suitable for every subject.  In person is the best way to attend any training or class, but an online experience is better than not taking the training.   If you can later attend an in-person class or part of it, so much the better but at least you're doing the training.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: shuman14 on February 09, 2018, 03:14:14 PM
For the most part, agreed. There are tidbits in just about every lesson that could be considered general leadership, but it's mostly CAP-centric.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: J2H on March 28, 2018, 03:47:32 AM
I'm registered for MDWG's online SLS (should be late spring)... how does it work online?  Certain dates you meet (teleconference)?
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: Baker on March 29, 2018, 03:14:28 AM
Thanks for this thread, was worried I would have to wait until late July and drive across state to get my SLS done.  Just signed up on e-services and awaiting the e-mail
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: MacGruff on March 29, 2018, 11:05:33 PM
PA Wing has three PD Weekends throughout the year. The west side of the state was just last week. In July it will be in the center of the state, and the East has theirs in October. I somehow doubt that the Wing will allow you to take the online version...
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: Baker on March 30, 2018, 01:09:32 AM
PA Wing has three PD Weekends throughout the year. The west side of the state was just last week. In July it will be in the center of the state, and the East has theirs in October. I somehow doubt that the Wing will allow you to take the online version...

Would you happen to know the dates for the July class?  I checked the calendar on e-services and it looks like nothing at all from PA wing is posted as of this message.  Still hoping to get in knocked out online but if I have to travel then so be it, sad I missed the western class.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: kwe1009 on March 30, 2018, 01:22:48 AM
The eServices calendar is not always updated. Check out https://pawg.cap.gov
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: Baker on March 30, 2018, 01:34:30 AM
Fantastic, at least that gave me a date to plan for.  Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: RiChArD7032 on May 27, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
I signed up for the online class since there were no in-resident courses in my local area.  How long does it take to hear back?  I registered through eServices, but it's been several weeks. 
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: J2H on May 27, 2018, 11:45:15 PM
I also registered for the online SLS.  I received an email back in March saying online SLS would be "late spring."
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: jjmalott on May 29, 2018, 01:22:12 PM
Target start date for the next session is third week of June.
Title: Re: Squadron Leadership School - resident only, or online also?
Post by: J2H on June 07, 2018, 07:10:00 PM
Yes, invites should go out June 15th