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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: Eclipse on September 29, 2017, 05:42:05 PM

Title: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: Eclipse on September 29, 2017, 05:42:05 PM
I just got off the phone with my Dell rep - Dell's had issues since Harvey hit because their HQ is in Round Rock, TX which
is about 180 miles West of Houston.  In fact they've had a banner on their orders and support pages for weeks indicating
shipping constraints.

(http://s26.postimg.org/dp32m3fh5/Dell.jpg)

Anyway, I went to order a laptop dock this PM and my rep told me that there is a 7-40 day constraint on the docks
because FEMA just placed an order for 25,000.

That should give some idea of the scale of things down South and Southeast right now...
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: Spam on September 29, 2017, 06:38:21 PM
25,0000?

... Two hundred fifty thousand? Who is ordering these, Tom Price?

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/400x/65098915/new-laptops-new-laptops-for-everyone.jpg)


Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: arajca on September 29, 2017, 06:55:02 PM
25,0000?

... Two hundred fifty thousand? Who is ordering these, Tom Price?

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/400x/65098915/new-laptops-new-laptops-for-everyone.jpg)
Not 250,000, just 25,000 (twenty five thousand)
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: Eclipse on September 29, 2017, 09:35:01 PM
25k, sorry.
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: etodd on September 29, 2017, 10:33:08 PM
25,000???  Our Squadron has been asking for a aerial photography laptop for over a year now. We would be happy with just one.
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: PHall on September 29, 2017, 10:48:59 PM
25,000???  Our Squadron has been asking for a aerial photography laptop for over a year now. We would be happy with just one.

Arrange for a hurricane to come through your town and maybe FEMA will give you one! >:D
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on September 30, 2017, 02:13:45 PM
Ask for a laptop dock, maybe it will come before the laptop! The 25,002 dock made.

Eclipse will get dock # 25,001 and you after him!

 ;D
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: Nick on September 30, 2017, 02:58:36 PM
Wait a minute. Iíll bite.

10,000 Federal workers in Puerto Rico. Who knows how many in Florida and Texas, but I suspect itís drastically less in both because theyíre both very large states with organic emergency management personnel.

You mean to tell me not one of them brought their laptop with them and can work without a dock?


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Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on September 30, 2017, 03:03:45 PM
Reread Eclipse's message.

Apparently it is the laptop's dock that is scarce, not the laptops themselves!

So the workers did take their laptops, but not their docks...  >:D
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: Eclipse on September 30, 2017, 03:15:39 PM
Wait a minute. Iíll bite.

10,000 Federal workers in Puerto Rico. Who knows how many in Florida and Texas, but I suspect itís drastically less in both because theyíre both very large states with organic emergency management personnel.

You mean to tell me not one of them brought their laptop with them and can work without a dock?


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What this said to me was that FEMA is likely hiring a bunch of people, and / or moving them around, and
a lot of response managers will be stationed semi-permanently in and around the affected areas in new or moved offices.

It's one thing to grab a laptop, run out the door and work off the top of a trash can for a few days, but
if you're setting up shop, you're gonna want multiple monitors and a real desk.

Rare these days are professionals, business or otherwise, who work on only one display.  Heck I have 3, and
my portable CAP desk has one stored in it for easy traveling to give me at least two.

I'm guessing FEMA's standard workstation has two displays.  It's interesting, if you Google around
for ICPs, you see the typical CAP-eque hodge-podge of latops, desktops, projectors, and
chaos, but the FEMA ICPs mostly have neat setups, with nice desks, dual displays and much less fuss and muss,
though to be fair, FEMA is more in the "week after / write checks" mode vs. "picking up people from roofs" mode.

(https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2017/08/27/FEMA_DC_AL_TT.jpg)

(http://media.wfmz.com/mara-wfmz-media-us-east-1/photo/2017/09/09/irma%20fema%20nrcc_1505005217132.jpg_8476169_ver1.0_640_360.jpg)

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/3dce6e7b7f1fd036e6eecf83ce547ec30e677d0f/c=348-0-5668-4000&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2017/08/27/USATODAY/USATODAY/636394497618868047-FEMA-NRCC-pics-004.JPG)

With that said, may FSM have mercy on their souls, because as much as I like Dell products, those !@#$%
USB docks are flaky as heck.
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: EMT-83 on September 30, 2017, 03:19:11 PM
Since their fiscal year begins October 1, this is probably a budget item with more purchase orders to follow.
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: Eclipse on September 30, 2017, 03:27:03 PM
Since their fiscal year begins October 1, this is probably a budget item with more purchase orders to follow.

A good point - could have been someone burning off the last of FY17 and / or checking their
bank account balance and seeing that huge Federal Aid check had cleared.
Title: Re: FEMA Hurricane Relief Support - Laws of unintended consequences
Post by: Nick on October 01, 2017, 12:28:21 AM
Reread Eclipse's message.

Apparently it is the laptop's dock that is scarce, not the laptops themselves!

So the workers did take their laptops, but not their docks...  >:D

Sorry if I wasnít clear and you misunderstood... I was saying there couldnít have been that many people that took their laptops on deployment and canít work from a desk without a docking station.

A good point - could have been someone burning off the last of FY17 and / or checking their
bank account balance and seeing that huge Federal Aid check had cleared.

Thatís probably the reality of the situation. Use it or lose it.


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