CAP Talk

Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: etodd on September 08, 2017, 06:50:28 PM

Title: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: etodd on September 08, 2017, 06:50:28 PM
Quote
... Meanwhile, in Puerto Rico, slammed by Irma on Wednesday, six volunteers from mainland CAP units were deployed Friday to provide support for the wing's aerial assessments and photography missions for federal relief agencies.

http://www.cap.news/wings-plans-take-shape-as-irma-approaches-fla/ (http://www.cap.news/wings-plans-take-shape-as-irma-approaches-fla/)
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: stillamarine on September 08, 2017, 07:32:18 PM
Including 3 from our wing
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: Eclipse on September 08, 2017, 08:11:57 PM
They are flying to PRWG now?!

Isn't that like, a really bad idea, especially over water?
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: etodd on September 08, 2017, 08:29:26 PM
Including 3 from our wing

Yep. One of them from my Squadron. Being a marketing guy I'm chomping at the bit wanting to spread the news around in the media , but PIO folks asking me to hold off until Hdqs approves everything. We even have some great photos of the 6 in front of the USAF 737 they took. But told not to use them.

By the time its approved, a few weeks from now, it'll be good for our Squadron's history page. LOL
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: etodd on September 08, 2017, 08:31:46 PM
They are flying to PRWG now?!

Isn't that like, a really bad idea, especially over water?

They have been there via 737 many hours ago. :)
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: NIN on September 08, 2017, 09:43:00 PM
They are flying to PRWG now?!

Isn't that like, a really bad idea, especially over water?

They have been there via 737 many hours ago. :)

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: Eclipse on September 08, 2017, 11:47:21 PM

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.

Yes, but not into a storm with 100MPH+ winds.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: etodd on September 09, 2017, 12:10:19 AM

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.

Yes, but not into a storm with 100MPH+ winds.

I'm sure our guys in the USAF 737 got a nice view of it while flying well above it. :)
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: abdsp51 on September 09, 2017, 10:35:46 AM

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.

Yes, but not into a storm with 100MPH+ winds.

I'm sure our guys in the USAF 737 got a nice view of it while flying well above it. :)

USAF doesn't use a 737 for cargo or pax (DV bird is the exception)  your data is flawed..
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: etodd on September 09, 2017, 11:57:50 AM

I suspect Eclipse thinks you had originally meant they were getting there in a CAP plane..

But then again, thats how SER swaps planes with PR.  Its not like they get miracled there.

Yes, but not into a storm with 100MPH+ winds.

I'm sure our guys in the USAF 737 got a nice view of it while flying well above it. :)

USAF doesn't use a 737 for cargo or pax (DV bird is the exception)  your data is flawed..

Yes. DV aircraft.  I'll post the photo as soon as the PIO lets me. (Darn these OPSEC people. LOL)  Clue is that while AF, its painted sorta like a Presidential plane.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: Vegas1972 on September 09, 2017, 12:01:52 PM
Sorry, removed. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: NIN on September 09, 2017, 12:35:21 PM
USAF doesn't use a 737 for cargo or pax (DV bird is the exception)  your data is flawed..

Can we give the guy the benefit of the doubt absent further data?

The USAF does use 737s as for pax as the C-40B or C-40C.  They don't use them for cargo in the same way they transport cargo in the KC-135/C-137 or KC-10 variants, but surely they can put *some* "cargo" in the aircraft in the same way the airlines can (ie. loaded in the belly).

He said 737. The man is a pilot. I can assume that he probably, maybe, likely, can identify a 737 or a 737 variant 3 out of 4 times without flashcards.



Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: etodd on September 15, 2017, 02:05:18 PM
Its public info now. Here is the crew (AL, TN, FL members) about to load up and head to Puerto Rico. This was before Irma hit FL:

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/f34bc523d544325720e1b8e2f28896950f837dc5/c=3-0-2046-1536&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2017/09/15/Pensacola/Pensacola/636410651832423304-SER-PR-1.jpg)

Here is media coverage as they return:

http://www.pnj.com/story/news/2017/09/15/civil-air-patrol-completes-mission-returns-home/669445001/ (http://www.pnj.com/story/news/2017/09/15/civil-air-patrol-completes-mission-returns-home/669445001/)
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: husker on September 15, 2017, 03:37:05 PM
Very nice.  I see some of my WESS colleagues in that photo.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: NIN on September 15, 2017, 05:11:17 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: abdsp51 on September 15, 2017, 09:46:46 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

Go back and read that post....
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: etodd on September 15, 2017, 09:55:18 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

Go back and read that post....

The crew wasn't just DV ... they were VERY DV.  :)
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on September 15, 2017, 09:58:09 PM
DV? Meaning...?
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: arajca on September 15, 2017, 11:30:49 PM
Distinguished Visitor
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on September 15, 2017, 11:42:28 PM
What happened with VIPs?

DV is the new chic word?

 ;D
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: PHall on September 16, 2017, 12:57:30 AM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: SarDragon on September 16, 2017, 03:07:53 AM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: Vegas1972 on September 16, 2017, 12:21:41 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.

Not always,  a handful of 737's. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: PHall on September 16, 2017, 02:33:02 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.

Not always,  a handful of 737's.

The Air Force had a bunch of 737's before, aka the T-43A Navigation Trainers. Some of those were repurposed when the need for Navigators went down and they didn't need as many trainers.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: Vegas1972 on September 16, 2017, 05:42:13 PM
A 737?  The USAF does not use 737s for cargo or pax.   :P

You're right, they don't use 737's, they use C-40B/C's.

Not always,  a handful of 737's.

The Air Force had a bunch of 737's before, aka the T-43A Navigation Trainers. Some of those were repurposed when the need for Navigators went down and they didn't need as many trainers.

Currently, a handful are registered as 737-66N's, not T-43's, or C-40's. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: JoeTomasone on September 16, 2017, 06:22:29 PM
TS Maria is forecast to become a Cat3 hurricane and impact PRWG mid-week.    :(

(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT15/refresh/AL152017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/204552_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png)
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: THRAWN on September 16, 2017, 06:54:13 PM
Joe, how dare you bring up real world mission related weather intelligence when people are bickering about a plane that most of them have never seen.....
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: PHall on September 16, 2017, 08:24:03 PM
Joe, how dare you bring up real world mission related weather intelligence when people are bickering about a plane that most of them have never seen.....

Speak for yourself there Bucko. Speak for yourself.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: MSG Mac on September 16, 2017, 08:38:01 PM
The military has been using DV as an acronym for over 50 years for O-6 and above. Also for E-9 and high level civilians
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: RiverAux on October 02, 2017, 06:05:16 PM
Maryland Wing sending people to PR:
http://www.wbaltv.com/article/members-of-marylands-civil-air-patrol-head-to-puerto-rico/12763215
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: Nick on October 02, 2017, 08:43:20 PM
The military has been using DV as an acronym for over 50 years for O-6 and above. Also for E-9 and high level civilians
O-6s and GS-15s, yes.

E-9s are not DV ranked besides getting a suite in lodging and a nice parking place.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico
Post by: goblin on October 04, 2017, 12:39:00 PM
The military has been using DV as an acronym for over 50 years for O-6 and above. Also for E-9 and high level civilians
O-6s and GS-15s, yes.

E-9s are not DV ranked besides getting a suite in lodging and a nice parking place.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Depends on the E-9

In accordance with the Department of Defense (DoD) Order of Precedence, the CMSAF position is coded DV Code 4 and AF 3-star precedence.