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Title: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Stonewall on March 15, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
Okay, this one may be tough, but can you remember a quote from a cadet that really stuck with you?

Two quickly come to mind:

First:  I think we were at Middle East Region SAR College, late nineties or early two-thousands, when C/1st Lt Megan M. was explaining the use of the old Radio Shack (Realistic) Jetstream radios (http://www.cap-es.net/ES%20Electric%20Technology/Jetstream%20Radios.htm) to conduct close-in ELT search.  So often, people argue that they either don't work, or the more expensive equipment is the only option (BTW, these used to cost $9).

Megan:  "Some people say 'oh, that's just a little jetstream radio', but when I come out of the wood line and save your ass, you won't know the difference; and neither will the victim."


Second:  It was at one of the annual Winter Exercises (WINTEX) when we were sitting around a fire warming and drying our feet/boots, C/Capt Stephen L. and others.

Other cadet:  "Captain L, I think I smell your boot burning."

Stephen:  "That's cool, just let me know when you smell sock."
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on March 15, 2013, 09:57:36 PM
He was a former cadet, but the facility we were at for Encampment had a sign that read "Profanity is not Quality Leadership".

One look at it, and the first thing he says is "What the %&^* is this *$Y#!?".

It was obviously a joke, but it was something that makes me giggle inside to this day.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: BGNightfall on March 19, 2013, 04:38:35 AM
He was a former cadet, but the facility we were at for Encampment had a sign that read "Profanity is not Quality Leadership".

One look at it, and the first thing he says is "What the %&^* is this *$Y#!?".

It was obviously a joke, but it was something that makes me giggle inside to this day.

My RDC stood under that sign and  proceeded to rip into us for half an hour with the most vile string of comments denouncing our parentage and our love lives.  She did not repeat herself once... nor did she at any point resort to profanity.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on March 19, 2013, 09:28:08 AM
RDCs would be great at standup.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Danger on May 28, 2013, 12:39:50 AM
"Good evening Sergeant Sir"  :o :clap:
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: LCG8928 on May 28, 2013, 01:38:28 AM
The things new cadets say can be really funny sometimes. At my squadron about a year ago:
"How are you doing tonight Cadet [name]?"
"Uhh fabulous sergeant!"
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Black Knight on May 28, 2013, 07:58:39 AM
We were counting off by twos, and the former first sergeant (he's in 10th grade) was first.
C/Maj. Vega: COUNT OFF BY TWOS WHEN I POINT TO YOU.
1st Sergeant Lemeiux: 2! (Completely serious)
C/Maj. Vega: YOURE A ONE YOU DUMBA#$!!!
1st Sergeant Lemeiux: You said to count by twos! I did! Its Rome logic.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: NIN on May 28, 2013, 11:04:24 AM
at a bivouac, while we were still in the old green fatigues:

Squadron CC: (to cadet from other sq) "Cadet Smith [not his real name], why is your zipper always down?"
Cadet Smith: (totally serious) "I don't know, sir. Maybe I have an unusually large groin."
Squadron CC: (trying hard not to bust out laughing) "Carry on, then!"

Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AngelWings on May 30, 2013, 09:30:15 PM
This was said to me one time at a banquet at the wing conference. I think I almost choked laughing. Composure and military bearing= lost.

"Hey, hey sergeant!"

"What?"

"It's so [darn] hot in here I got swamp as*!"

It was so unexpected and random it actually caught me off guard. So I asked him to repeat. This cadet leans over to me and repeats it, but loud enough for our entire table to hear...

Partly embarrassing, partly the best thing that has ever happened at a conference I've gone to.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: unmlobo on May 31, 2013, 02:21:44 AM
During encampment when the TAC was an AD Combat Rescue Officer wearing his soffe shorts.  A cadet asked him about them being so short, to which his reply was "The shorter the shorts, the tougher the man!"  This became the flights motto; imagine 12y/o's screaming this as a greeting when passing officers and SM.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Garibaldi on May 31, 2013, 06:05:02 PM
This was said to me one time at a banquet at the wing conference. I think I almost choked laughing. Composure and military bearing= lost.

"Hey, hey sergeant!"

"What?"

"It's so [darn] hot in here I got swamp as*!"

It was so unexpected and random it actually caught me off guard. So I asked him to repeat. This cadet leans over to me and repeats it, but loud enough for our entire table to hear...

Partly embarrassing, partly the best thing that has ever happened at a conference I've gone to.

I always thought that swamp-a** was a euphemism for very nasty gas. I cleared a van out one morning after breakfast and earned the nickname "Swamp-a** Estes" for the duration of the SAREX. Really, the driver had to pull over and it was a mass exodus. Open windows were out of the question.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AngelWings on May 31, 2013, 06:52:47 PM
This was said to me one time at a banquet at the wing conference. I think I almost choked laughing. Composure and military bearing= lost.

"Hey, hey sergeant!"

"What?"

"It's so [darn] hot in here I got swamp as*!"

It was so unexpected and random it actually caught me off guard. So I asked him to repeat. This cadet leans over to me and repeats it, but loud enough for our entire table to hear...

Partly embarrassing, partly the best thing that has ever happened at a conference I've gone to.

I always thought that swamp-a** was a euphemism for very nasty gas. I cleared a van out one morning after breakfast and earned the nickname "Swamp-a** Estes" for the duration of the SAREX. Really, the driver had to pull over and it was a mass exodus. Open windows were out of the question.
Haha no, swamp as* is a euphemism for extraordinarily sweaty buttocks.

I've been known to clear out entire buildings with my gas and bathroom usage. I was known as the bomber for a short while.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: SarDragon on May 31, 2013, 07:51:14 PM
TMI.  :(
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PHall on May 31, 2013, 08:59:17 PM
The one line from a cadet that no good can come from. ::)

"But my parents said I could."
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AngelWings on May 31, 2013, 09:48:02 PM
TMI.  :(
Sorry sir!
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: ol'fido on June 01, 2013, 10:15:01 AM
WIWAC, we had one cadet's mother who was a ARC FA & CPR instructor teaching a class at out squadron meeting. When we got to the part about "repositioning the head" to ensure an open airway, one cadet just kind of stopped everything and thoroughly flummoxed the poor woman by asking:

"Can you use a safety pin to pin their tongue to their cheek so that they don't swallow their tongue?"
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PHall on June 01, 2013, 02:10:13 PM
WIWAC, we had one cadet's mother who was a ARC FA & CPR instructor teaching a class at out squadron meeting. When we got to the part about "repositioning the head" to ensure an open airway, one cadet just kind of stopped everything and thoroughly flummoxed the poor woman by asking:

"Can you use a safety pin to pin their tongue to their cheek so that they don't swallow their tongue?"


Great combination procedure!!!  You clear their airway and check their response to pain at the same time!
What a time saver!!! :clap:
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Critical AOA on June 01, 2013, 08:22:07 PM
WIWAC, we had one cadet's mother who was a ARC FA & CPR instructor teaching a class at out squadron meeting. When we got to the part about "repositioning the head" to ensure an open airway, one cadet just kind of stopped everything and thoroughly flummoxed the poor woman by asking:

"Can you use a safety pin to pin their tongue to their cheek so that they don't swallow their tongue?"

An obvious tongue-in-cheek pun of a question.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AngelWings on June 01, 2013, 08:27:03 PM
WIWAC, we had one cadet's mother who was a ARC FA & CPR instructor teaching a class at out squadron meeting. When we got to the part about "repositioning the head" to ensure an open airway, one cadet just kind of stopped everything and thoroughly flummoxed the poor woman by asking:

"Can you use a safety pin to pin their tongue to their cheek so that they don't swallow their tongue?"

An obvious tongue-in-cheek pun of a question.
You owe me a new laptop. Will be expecting it next week.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: BillB on June 01, 2013, 08:59:29 PM
PHALL

Just a reminder, you need to sterilize the safety pin. Can't risk infections      (your Safety Briefing for June)
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PHall on June 02, 2013, 01:08:00 AM
PHALL

Just a reminder, you need to sterilize the safety pin. Can't risk infections      (your Safety Briefing for June)

Can you make that my safety briefing for July, I'm good for June.  ;)
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on June 02, 2013, 02:20:42 AM
No banking!
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PHall on June 02, 2013, 02:42:36 AM
No banking!

Reg doesn't say you can't.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Duke Dillio on June 02, 2013, 03:45:17 AM
Had a ground team training activity where a female cadet walked up to me while I was setting up a Stokes basket, stretcher, and extrication board and asked if she could be the victim.  She must have sensed a little confusion on my part because she quickly stated:  "I like to be tied up and stuff and I'm a good actress..."
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PHall on June 02, 2013, 10:16:58 AM
Had a ground team training activity where a female cadet walked up to me while I was setting up a Stokes basket, stretcher, and extrication board and asked if she could be the victim.  She must have sensed a little confusion on my part because she quickly stated:  "I like to be tied up and stuff and I'm a good actress..."


T   M   I    :o
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AngelWings on June 02, 2013, 10:53:31 AM
Had a ground team training activity where a female cadet walked up to me while I was setting up a Stokes basket, stretcher, and extrication board and asked if she could be the victim.  She must have sensed a little confusion on my part because she quickly stated:  "I like to be tied up and stuff and I'm a good actress..."
Trust me, keep the paracord away from her!

I bet that wasn't the only time that cadet made a remark like that.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: MajorM on June 02, 2013, 03:01:21 PM
From this weekend's pre-encampment event, "Cadet, you ok? It looks like your crying..."  Her: "I'm not crying sir, I have a condition where water comes out of my eyes when I'm upset."

Carry on then :)

And another, Flight Commander: "Cadet!  You've done excellent this weekend that is why you're in front of this disciplinary board..." 

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on June 02, 2013, 09:35:09 PM
Great idea! Pinning the tongue with a safety pin may cause bleeding into the mouth... A choking potential.   :)

Now you get to practice the entire CPR spectrum!  :clap:

Flyer
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AngelWings on June 02, 2013, 09:46:11 PM
Great idea! Pinning the tongue with a safety pin may cause bleeding into the mouth... A choking potential.   :)

Now you get to practice the entire CPR spectrum!  :clap:

Flyer
You, too, owe me a new laptop!
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: spazyjosh on June 06, 2013, 01:43:17 PM
      Last year at Utah Wing Encampment encampment they called out all the cadets who's hair was out of regs. They told them that their hair was out of regs and that they were going to cut it for them. One cadet completely serious raises his hand and asks "Are we going to a salon?"

      After hearing this the staff all try to contain themselves from laughing until finally the squadron commander said yes. Needless to say the cadet was disappointed when he was lead to a barrack built to the temporary standards of WWII with a little sign that read Wendover Salon and. sweaty men with razors buzzing hair

Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: miss.aviator.girl on July 10, 2013, 03:27:26 PM
ILWG Summer Encampment 2013:
Our flight commander telling us to wake up and get our uniforms on:
"Cadets, you have five minutes!"
Fifteen seconds later: "Cadets, you have two minutes!"
Thirty seconds later: "Ten seconds! <counts down from ten> C'mon! You have three minutes!"  :o
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Pulsar on October 13, 2013, 03:57:26 PM
ILWG Summer Encampment 2013:
Our flight commander telling us to wake up and get our uniforms on:
"Cadets, you have five minutes!"
Fifteen seconds later: "Cadets, you have two minutes!"
Thirty seconds later: "Ten seconds! <counts down from ten> C'mon! You have three minutes!"  :o

I like hearing about other encampments. My enc, we were woken up at 0515. We slept in PT shorts and shirts. The staff would run through the bay yelling, squeezing air horns, and banging on lockers. We were outside, in formation within 30 seconds. I was on the top corner bunk; I had to jump out of bed, pull on my sneakers, grab my hydration, and run outside. -people were definitely jolted out of their sleep.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: NM SAR on December 12, 2013, 01:52:59 PM
Had a ground team training activity where a female cadet walked up to me while I was setting up a Stokes basket, stretcher, and extrication board and asked if she could be the victim.  She must have sensed a little confusion on my part because she quickly stated:  "I like to be tied up and stuff and I'm a good actress..."

 :o

 :-X
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: NM SAR on December 12, 2013, 01:56:20 PM
I think my most memorable cadet quote comes form a time I was teaching a class on the 24 hour pack. At one point during this presentation, I showed the cadets my "trump card" firestarter: a 15-minute road flare.

One of my cadets then piped up: "Sir, I've heard you can use a road flare to cauterize a wound."

No....no, you can't. Well, you could, but you'd set your flesh on fire.
Title: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Storm Chaser on December 12, 2013, 02:52:09 PM
Not long ago, a cadet came to the squadron meeting not safety current. He was instructed to complete an online safety education module. After trying to figure out for a while how to access the Safety Management System (SMS), he asked for help.

Being that the word "Safety" was spelled out on the eServices menu bar, I prompted him by asking, "What are you trying to accomplish?" He seemed puzzled, so I asked again, "What is your goal?" He proudly replied, "To earn my Billy Mitchell Award." I had to ask again, "What is your goal right now?" He eventually figured it out.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Pulsar on December 12, 2013, 05:25:10 PM
Here is a quote that you would have to be there to understand exactly...
At encampment...
C/Col [blank] barges into squadron 20's barracks.  One cadet had glanced at him while at attention earlier in the day. He walks up to one of 20 cadets standing at attention along the bay.
"Cadet ------, DO I LOOK PRETTY TO YOU?...HUGH?!!!"
"uhhh..I don't know how to answer that sir!"
"YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO--HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER!!!!?....wow."

...and then he walked out.

__________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________

And my classic flight commander's line...
"THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!"

__________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________
And another favorite of mine...

"Only the gods can walk on the water!"

 (A line used by my staff when we walked in the prohibited bay area [the main hallway] of our barracks.      The only day we could walk in the bay was the last day of enc.)
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: LSThiker on December 13, 2013, 12:33:10 AM

First quote
This probably was not the best way to hand the situation. I was 2-3 months into being a Capt after being a cadet and was at an encampment.  I saw a cadet major hassling some C/A1C or C/SrA after the C/Maj order the cadet to give him the guidon.

Me (quiet enough that only him and the cadet could hear):  Give the cadet the guidon

As I walked away, the C/Maj loudly tells me (in front of two flights of cadets):  "Sir, this is how encampments are always ran"

The area went perfectly quiet as all the SMs stopped talking.

Me turned around and very loudly responded:  I suspect a cadet major would have more important duties to perform.

Second quote
At the same encampment above, I saw a flight commander marching his cadets in the wrong direction from where he needed to go.  So I chased him down:

Me:  Where are you going?
Cadet:  We are going to the LRC
Me:  You are going the wrong way.  You need to go that way (pointing to the whole line of cadets marching to areas near the LRC)
Cadet:  Sir, I was here last year and I know where I am going
Me:  Really?  So I guess in my 5 years of being on this base I do not know where I am going

So I walked with them until the flight commander finally admitted to being lost.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Pulsar on December 13, 2013, 09:49:06 AM
First quote
As I walked away, the C/Maj loudly tells me (in front of two flights of cadets):  "Sir, this is how encampments are always ran"

   :o Fallacy: Appeal to tradition.

he could of at least dissented in private to you. I'm sure the cadets he was hassling didn't have much respect for him after they saw his attitude to you.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Nearly Dark Side on December 13, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
At my basic encampment my flight commander was yelling at us for moving at attention. At one point he told us that we look like a bunch of umpa loompas, then my squadron cc comes up at tells us that we are now the chocolatiers. For the rest of the week when we posted our guidon we would yell, "The chocolatiers are here!"
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on December 13, 2013, 10:11:51 AM
LST-

I liked both ways. You had the sense not top embarrass him in public, but he did not get it. So you gave his medicine back!

And the second... Well, you did not force it on him. I think it was good.

Flyer
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on December 13, 2013, 10:15:06 AM
Collins-

Was your flight at the time Charlie Flight as well?

Flyer
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Nearly Dark Side on December 13, 2013, 10:47:40 AM
No sir, we were gulf flight.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Eclipse on December 13, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
Mexico, Aden, Tonkin, or Panama?
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on December 13, 2013, 11:30:07 AM
If any of you had a little time to look the Internet you could have chosen a specific brand.

A list of chocolate brands beginning with G:

Galaxy, Gardena, Gingembre, Glosette, Godiva, Golden Rough, Goobers, Green and Blacks, and Goya.

Think about it.

We are the Golf Galaxy!

Or

We are the Golf Goobers!
No, not very good.

We are the Golf Green and Blacks! This one goes with the uniform...

Flyer
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: UH60guy on December 13, 2013, 12:52:59 PM
A list of chocolate brands beginning with G:

Galaxy, Gardena, Gingembre, Glosette, Godiva, Golden Rough, Goobers, Green and Blacks, and Goya.

This reminds me of some funny quotes, though of course, the exact ones all slip my memory. Basically it's always fun when someone can't remember the phoenetic alphabet and is put on the spot. Usually it's conincident with the usual 50 point IQ drop upon keying a radio.

An example, loosely based on what I've heard:
"Ground this is ... "
...
"... this is Skyhawk November 1-2-3-4 Zebra in southwest parking. Request to taxi um... wait one."
...
" Request to taxi from parking via taxiways Fandango ... Glowstick ... Applebees? ... I don't even ... Snoopy? ... Elephant ... to runway 27 for VFR departure to the west."
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: BHartman007 on December 13, 2013, 04:41:13 PM


..." Request to taxi from parking via taxiways Fandango ... Glowstick ... Applebees? ... I don't even ... Snoopy? ... Elephant ... to runway 27 for VFR departure to the west."

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/rolling.gif)
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on December 13, 2013, 05:24:30 PM
That happens to everyone... or almost everyone at some point in their lives...

Today I called the USGS to reset the password so I could order two topo maps, and I start spelling my userid phonetically, got stuck on the next to last letter!

Flyer
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: ol'fido on December 13, 2013, 10:54:09 PM


..." Request to taxi from parking via taxiways Fandango ... Glowstick ... Applebees? ... I don't even ... Snoopy? ... Elephant ... to runway 27 for VFR departure to the west."

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/rolling.gif)
From Aviation Humor:

Allegedly the German air controllers at Frankfurt Airport are renowned as a short-tempered lot. They, it is alleged, not only expect one to know one’s gate parking location, but how to get there without any assistance from them. So it was with some amusement that we (a Pan Am 747) listened to the following exchange between Frankfurt ground control and a British Airways 747, call sign Speedbird 206.
Speedbird 206: “Frankfurt, Speedbird 206 clear of active runway.”
Ground: “Speedbird 206. Taxi to gate Alpha One-Seven.” The BA 747 pulled onto the main taxiway and slowed to a stop.
Ground: “Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?”
Speedbird 206: “Stand by, Ground, I’m looking up our gate location now.”
Ground (with quite arrogant impatience): “Speedbird 206, have you not been to Frankfurt before?”
Speedbird 206 (coolly): “Yes, twice in 1944, but it was dark,… and I didn’t land.”
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: a2capt on December 13, 2013, 11:06:31 PM
The local tower used to use Christmas themed replacements for the phonetic alphabet, for the ATIS releases, on the shift that operated on Christmas day, and add to the sea of colored lights at the airport with Christmas lights surrounding the tower.

Not sure why it stopped, probably some grinches. 
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: CAP_truth on December 14, 2013, 12:44:48 AM
Years ago  early 1960s  during a drill team training a 5 foot 1 cadet 2nd Lt. came up to a 6 foot 3 cadet airman and stated"
"Do you know what the penalty is for stepping on an officer is?
the smart a## cadet airman replied
"A promotion to 2nd Lt."

The airman DID NOT get the promotion.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Pulsar on December 14, 2013, 10:38:24 AM
Years ago  early 1960s  during a drill team training a 5 foot 1 cadet 2nd Lt. came up to a 6 foot 3 cadet airman and stated"
"Do you know what the penalty is for stepping on an officer is?
the smart a## cadet airman replied
"A promotion to 2nd Lt."

The airman DID NOT get the promotion.

hahaha...I guess that would be a punishment...For an airman.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: ol'fido on December 14, 2013, 01:56:54 PM
Years ago  early 1960s  during a drill team training a 5 foot 1 cadet 2nd Lt. came up to a 6 foot 3 cadet airman and stated"
"Do you know what the penalty is for stepping on an officer is?
the smart a## cadet airman replied
"A promotion to 2nd Lt."

The airman DID NOT get the promotion.
Make that airman a Cadet Colonel!! Anyone that eloquent should be promoted.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Garibaldi on December 14, 2013, 04:53:29 PM
On that note, one AE class I remember very well had our instructor telling us of the pranks SR-71 pilots would play on civilian control towers. The conversation would go something like this:
"_______ control, this is (made up name). Request clearance to 70,000."
"Ummmm...yeah. Clearance granted."
"Roger. Beginning our descent."

Made up or not, it was funny at the time.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: BHartman007 on December 22, 2013, 07:29:32 PM


..." Request to taxi from parking via taxiways Fandango ... Glowstick ... Applebees? ... I don't even ... Snoopy? ... Elephant ... to runway 27 for VFR departure to the west."

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/rolling.gif)
From Aviation Humor:

Allegedly the German air controllers at Frankfurt Airport are renowned as a short-tempered lot. They, it is alleged, not only expect one to know one’s gate parking location, but how to get there without any assistance from them. So it was with some amusement that we (a Pan Am 747) listened to the following exchange between Frankfurt ground control and a British Airways 747, call sign Speedbird 206.
Speedbird 206: “Frankfurt, Speedbird 206 clear of active runway.”
Ground: “Speedbird 206. Taxi to gate Alpha One-Seven.” The BA 747 pulled onto the main taxiway and slowed to a stop.
Ground: “Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?”
Speedbird 206: “Stand by, Ground, I’m looking up our gate location now.”
Ground (with quite arrogant impatience): “Speedbird 206, have you not been to Frankfurt before?”
Speedbird 206 (coolly): “Yes, twice in 1944, but it was dark,… and I didn’t land.”

That's a funny one, but Speedbird was the call sign for Concorde.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PHall on December 22, 2013, 07:42:17 PM


..." Request to taxi from parking via taxiways Fandango ... Glowstick ... Applebees? ... I don't even ... Snoopy? ... Elephant ... to runway 27 for VFR departure to the west."

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/rolling.gif)
From Aviation Humor:

Allegedly the German air controllers at Frankfurt Airport are renowned as a short-tempered lot. They, it is alleged, not only expect one to know one’s gate parking location, but how to get there without any assistance from them. So it was with some amusement that we (a Pan Am 747) listened to the following exchange between Frankfurt ground control and a British Airways 747, call sign Speedbird 206.
Speedbird 206: “Frankfurt, Speedbird 206 clear of active runway.”
Ground: “Speedbird 206. Taxi to gate Alpha One-Seven.” The BA 747 pulled onto the main taxiway and slowed to a stop.
Ground: “Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?”
Speedbird 206: “Stand by, Ground, I’m looking up our gate location now.”
Ground (with quite arrogant impatience): “Speedbird 206, have you not been to Frankfurt before?”
Speedbird 206 (coolly): “Yes, twice in 1944, but it was dark,… and I didn’t land.”

That's a funny one, but Speedbird was the call sign for Concorde.

No, Speedbird is the callsign for ALL British Airways flights. Has been since the 1950's.

And yeah, the Frankfurt controllers are an impatient lot. But since they control the busiest airport in Europe they're entitled.
They were very, very happy when we closed the military side of the airport (Rhien Main) and transferred it to Lufthansa.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Sleepwalker on December 26, 2013, 02:41:27 PM
Our late-middle aged Squadron Commander explained to the Cadets one day that they need to update their 'pace count' every 6 months or so because they are growing and it changes their body size.  He then stated that when people get his his age they need to think about updating their pace count regularl as well.  One of the young Cadets (as innocent and serious as can be) asked "is that because you start becoming forgetful?"         
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: nmkaufman0 on January 30, 2014, 11:47:04 PM
My Squadron's C/C and our First Sergeant were missing for one meeting, and the Chiefs decided to have a drill down... in the aircraft hanger, in the winter. When there were 3 Cadets left (I was one of the 3  :)), he called us to attention and tried to make us break barring. The Chief went up to me and got me to laugh using a stupid face. He then went up to another Airman, and tried the same face. It didn't work. The Chief then tried some other trick. It didn't work. An Airman First Class stuck his tongue out at this Airman. He was still keeping military barring. Then, the Chief (who I don't think is gay, or at least doesn't fit any stereotypes) had an idea: he looked him straight in the eye, said in the most serious voice possible, "I have always loved you." 
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: SarDragon on January 31, 2014, 12:45:40 AM
My Squadron's C/C and our First Sergeant were missing for one meeting, and the Chiefs decided to have a drill down... in the aircraft hanger hangar, in the winter. When there were 3 Cadets left (I was one of the 3  :) ), he called us to attention and tried to make us break barring bearing. The Chief went up to me and got me to laugh using a stupid face. He then went up to another Airman, and tried the same face. It didn't work. The Chief then tried some other trick. It didn't work. An Airman First Class stuck his tongue out at this Airman. He was still keeping military barring bearing. Then, the Chief (who I don't think is gay, or at least doesn't fit any stereotypes) had an idea: he looked him straight in the eye, said in the most serious voice possible, "I have always loved you."

FTFY.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on January 31, 2014, 12:40:48 PM
Then, the Chief (who I don't think is gay, or at least doesn't fit any stereotypes) had an idea: he looked him straight in the eye, said in the most serious voice possible, "I have always loved you."


Why would that even cross your mind? I have a friend I haven't seen in over 6 years. I consider him a brother, and love him dearly. Oh, but I'm also married to a woman.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Pulsar on January 31, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
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Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: GTCommando on February 01, 2014, 10:49:53 PM
Heard during a uniform inspection at encampment staff selections a few ions years back:

C/Maj X: Who was the first person to orbit the Earth?

Chief Y: Yuri Gagarin, Ma'am.

C/Maj X: Excellent! And when did he orbit the Earth?

Chief Y: Before I was born, Ma'am.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AACS Cadet21 on February 01, 2014, 11:41:03 PM
During bearing busters in KSWG the HG XO/Armorer would wheel through the ranks in an office chair. He'd slouch, burp, make stupid faces, and just sit in front of a cadet until they broke. We did BBs with the encampment XO, Capt. G, man was that fun. He came up to a cadet during BBs and they had the following conversation:

G: What did you have for breakfast cadet? (when he asked me this I said, "the same tihing as you Sir!" anyways,)

cadet: Eggs Sir.

G: Did you like them cadet? (nobody ever ate the eggs, they were awful  :o )

cadet: No Sir.

G: Would you rather have been eating kittens cadet?!

cadet: I prefer puppies Sir.
the cadet never did break.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

this next quote is a conversation me and my battle buddy/wingman had one night during basic in COWG. To set the scene we'd been complaining about being tired, hungry, sore, etc.

BB: "...Well, you know what they say, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger."
Me: "But then you don't know what makes you stronger until you're already dead..."
We were laughing for the rest of personal time  ;D ;D ;D :clap: :clap: :clap: ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AACS Cadet21 on February 01, 2014, 11:50:38 PM
I have a knack for being a smart-as* when it comes to bearing busters  ;)
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PHall on February 02, 2014, 01:27:22 AM
And "Bearing Busters" accomplish what? ???

Sounds like cadet staff wasting everybodys time. Time that could be used to do the stuff that is required to graduate from encampment.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AACS Cadet21 on February 02, 2014, 11:57:13 AM
We were the Honor Guard ATF, we had time for BBs  ;)
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on February 02, 2014, 02:43:12 PM
We were the Honor Guard ATF, we had time for BBs  ;)

But, to what end?  As in, what's the point? What learning objectives did you meet? How was your education and training rapidly advanced by that?

You probably had time for all sorts of things - armpit noises, nose picking, patty-cake - but the same questions would have to apply.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AACS Cadet21 on February 02, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
We were the Honor Guard ATF, we had time for BBs  ;)

But, to what end?  As in, what's the point? What learning objectives did you meet? How was your education and training rapidly advanced by that?

You probably had time for all sorts of things - armpit noises, nose picking, patty-cake - but the same questions would have to apply.


We improved our military bearing and disapline, and had fun doing it.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: NIN on February 02, 2014, 03:58:41 PM
Wow. And all those years in the military, you know, never had a drill sergeant or a first sergeant waste his time trying to get me to "break my bearing."

Whatever that means.

Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: AACS Cadet21 on February 02, 2014, 04:22:41 PM
Wow. And all those years in the military, you know, never had a drill sergeant or a first sergeant waste his time trying to get me to "break my bearing."

Whatever that means.

I think you guys are missing the point.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: MSG Mac on February 02, 2014, 04:26:57 PM
Wow. And all those years in the military, you know, never had a drill sergeant or a first sergeant waste his time trying to get me to "break my bearing."

Whatever that means.

I think you guys are missing the point.

The question is why play silly A** games and try to pass it off as training?
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: HGjunkie on February 02, 2014, 04:52:39 PM
USAF Honor Guard - Rubber Chicken Bearing Test (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AqqmjGzeTQ)

It's a legitimate practice (in the AF at least), and a time honored CAP tradition to get cadets to fall out of formation in bearing tests.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PHall on February 02, 2014, 04:55:51 PM
Wow. And all those years in the military, you know, never had a drill sergeant or a first sergeant waste his time trying to get me to "break my bearing."

Whatever that means.

I think you guys are missing the point.


No, I think you have missed the point.  All three of us who are questioning this have been in the military.
And none of us ever did anything like this. Not even in Basic Training.

So tell us again how we're missing the point.

You guys were playing. Call it what you want, but you were playing.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: NIN on February 02, 2014, 05:05:38 PM
USAF Honor Guard - Rubber Chicken Bearing Test (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AqqmjGzeTQ)

It's a legitimate practice (in the AF at least), and a time honored CAP tradition to get cadets to fall out of formation in bearing tests.

Let me make this nice and clear: Honor Guards in CAP are not the USAF Honor Guard.  They're not the Old Guard. They're not the USMC silent drill team.

Just because the USAF honor guard does something is pretty much absolutely no reason for CAP honor guards to do it.

Its not a "time honored tradition." Its stupid.  Its idiotic. Its dumb.

There, I said it.

I had a discussion with a C/CMSgt a couple weeks ago about this thing where the cadets doing PT went from a standing position to sitting on their butts in basically an uncontrolled freefall to the ground. Did I mention it was a concrete floor?  Yeah, when told that this sort of thing needed to end lest someone break their tailbone in the process, I was told "But sir, its tradition."

Doing something that stupid for no apparent reason is NOT a "tradition." 

Someone acts the fool in front of others to get them to laugh. That's a "tradition?"  Sounds like someone else may have lost his or her military bearing in the process.





Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on February 02, 2014, 05:19:21 PM
Senior Members, relax!

Let those cadets have their fun. They were playing, we know. Do not chastise them for their fun... Drill by adults is a very serious business. Another difference is the yelling. Did you hear your Drill Instructors go FLIGHT ATTENTION! at the top of their lungs sounding like they are using a loudspeaker? Nein, nyet, no! But you do hear cadets all the time yelling as if they are using an amplifier when there is no other thing going on...

Flyer
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: NIN on February 02, 2014, 05:45:38 PM
Senior Members, relax!

Let those cadets have their fun. They were playing, we know. Do not chastise them for their fun... Drill by adults is a very serious business. Another difference is the yelling. Did you hear your Drill Instructors go FLIGHT ATTENTION! at the top of their lungs sounding like they are using a loudspeaker? Nein, nyet, no! But you do hear cadets all the time yelling as if they are using an amplifier when there is no other thing going on...

I don't disagree with what you're saying.  My experience with this, however, tends to be that "traditions" (especially based on RealMilitary™ activities that are really in no way, shape or form even remotely related or associated with our day-to-day operations) get blown way, way, way out of proportion in the re-interpretation.

One example I use when I teach TLC classes on these subjects:

Years ago, we had an encampment where someone mis-scheduled the day's activities and some people mis-interpreted the intent behind the schedule and it was somehow understood that the cadets had 30 minutes (only) in which they could shower.  An enterprising flight commander, wanting to maximized his barracks prep time and minimize the time spent fiddling with something as mundane as showers assigned his flight sergeant to stand in the doorway of the latrine and to ensure that the 15 cadets in his flight all only took 2 minute long showers so he could get everybody thru the showers in the allotted 30 minutes.  The flight sergeant dutifully stood there barking "30 seconds!  .... Fifteen seconds... 10, 9, 8..." and then "SWITCH!"  Showers were clearly getting accomplished in what the flight commander felt was an orderly, proficient, military manner.  His flight sergeant gets kudos.

The next year, Cadet Jones, who was a basic in this flight the year before, is now a flight sergeant, and he's duty bound to uphold what he suddenly perceives as an "encampment tradition" of 2 minute showers. Except, you know, he's WAY more hardcore and on the ball than his forebearers from the year before, so he's going to show them that he can do it EVEN BETTER. Now its ONE minute showers, so they can use the extra time for barracks prep, as this is clearly important. So he stands in the doorway with his G-shock watch, barking "15 seconds!  10.. 9...8.." and "SWITCH!" And he gets on his guys for not being all hardcore and clean like he was last year.

Cadet Smith in Cadet Jones' flight this year, thinks this "encampment tradition" is awesome, cuz he can really crank thru the shower, unlike half the other slackers in his flight.  Next year, Smith is selected for flight sergeant, and he's utterly convinced that half of his ability to show that he's a super-duper hardcore NCO hinges on his ability to uphold the "encampment tradition" of 1 minute showers that he learned last year. Except, in Smith's way of thinking, why do 1 minute showers when you KNOW that everybody can get clean as a whistle in 30 seconds?

So now Smith is barking at his flight, telling them they have 30 seconds to get wet and soapy, rinse off and get out to keep up with the "tradition" of 30 second showers...  He's pushing 15 cadets in his flight thru the showers in less than 8 minutes. He's so cool that the remaining 22 minutes of the 30 minute personal time can be used as extra barracks prep, because everbody knows that his flight is a shoe in for honor flight based on the amount of barracks prep time they're using...

How did we get from someone thinking "Well to efficiently use my 30 minutes of personal time, with one shower stall and 15 cadets, I need to make sure they're not fooling around and they adhere to quick 2 minute long showers.." to "GET OUT! GET OUT GET OUT! You're making me look bad! Next cadet, get into that shower! Move!"? 

Tradition.

When it really isn't anything of the sort.

Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on February 02, 2014, 06:24:07 PM
You are right in your example. Also in this example there is a safety risk. As they rush into and out of the showers they can slip on a wet floor...

Didn't you post this before on a different thread? I think I remember reading about it before...

So we can always state something about carrying the concept of "Tradition" too far...

Flyer
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: NIN on February 02, 2014, 06:51:13 PM
30-second showers have been an "example" of mine for years.

I'm sure I've alluded to this before.

Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: ol'fido on February 02, 2014, 07:01:22 PM
There's things that are "tradition" at encampments and there is the cadet staff mentality of "It was done to me, so I'm going to do it to them even though I despised it". The first needs to be evaluated every so often to make sure that the "tradition" is still in line with the times and CAP regulations. Doing something just because it was done to you is not really a very smart idea for a leader especially if they despised it when they were a cadet in the ranks. Now, some traditions that the cadets despise are probably never going to go away. Getting up at "oh dark thirty" and eating the occasionally crappy chow hall meal are not likely to disappear anytime soon.

Leadership need to take a look at everything the cadets do every now and then to decide whether it is still needed, relevant, or even allowed by regulations. Those things that don't meet any of those criteria need to go away. If you train your cadet staff right, they will see this on their own. OTOH, not every activity at the encampment needs to be directed toward accomplishing training goals. Our cadets are young and hopefully, our seniors are young at heart. Every so often, a commander needs to let their people blow off some steam, let their hair down, and just have fun. The trick is to direct these activities so that they are safe, good spirited, and inclusive of all.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: SarDragon on February 03, 2014, 12:06:45 AM
We improved our military bearing and disapline discipline, and had fun doing it.

FTFY. Use your spell checker next time.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on February 03, 2014, 05:26:34 AM
You are right in your example. Also in this example there is a safety risk. As they rush into and out of the showers they can slip on a wet floor...

Didn't you post this before on a different thread? I think I remember reading about it before...

So we can always state something about carrying the concept of "Tradition" too far...

Flyer

I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard someone claim that something is a "time honored tradition" when that was the first time I had heard about it. Especially when it comes to "time honored encampment traditions." I carefully count the number of years going back to 1967, then count the various bronze and silver clasps that I can not fit onto only one Encampment Ribbon and silently ask myself "Gosh, am I getting Alzheimer's? Because I can't remember this 'time honored tradition.'" Then I quickly come to my senses and realize that it's happened again - a one time "thing" has been repeated, becoming therefore a "practice." But such does not a "tradition" make.

The worst part about these "non-traditions" is when somebody like me, or NIN or PHall comes along and tries to undo them after recognizing them for the Tom-Foolery that they are. The reaction is almost always along the lines of "But SIR! It's TRADITION!"

Even when it can be clearly illustrated that the "tradition" only goes back as far as last June, there is resentment when the ill-founded "practice" is sent packing.

Save the resentment and the stink-eye for somebody else, please. Starting, perhaps, with the guy who started the aberrant practice.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Panache on February 03, 2014, 06:44:18 AM
Senior Members, relax!

Let those cadets have their fun. They were playing, we know. Do not chastise them for their fun... Drill by adults is a very serious business. Another difference is the yelling. Did you hear your Drill Instructors go FLIGHT ATTENTION! at the top of their lungs sounding like they are using a loudspeaker? Nein, nyet, no! But you do hear cadets all the time yelling as if they are using an amplifier when there is no other thing going on...

Flyer

Exactly what I was thinking.  It's kids being... well, kids.  Let them enjoy their childhood.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on February 04, 2014, 02:03:43 AM
Senior Members, relax!

Let those cadets have their fun. They were playing, we know. Do not chastise them for their fun... Drill by adults is a very serious business. Another difference is the yelling. Did you hear your Drill Instructors go FLIGHT ATTENTION! at the top of their lungs sounding like they are using a loudspeaker? Nein, nyet, no! But you do hear cadets all the time yelling as if they are using an amplifier when there is no other thing going on...

Flyer


Exactly what I was thinking.  It's kids being... well, kids.  Let them enjoy their childhood.

That is a very simple way of looking at something that isn't so simple. You're looking at it as what it is, when it is. I'm looking at what it will develop into.

Cadets get their foundation at the local level. Lots to do, not much time, all in pieces based on their level in the program. Then comes encampment.

Suddenly, they are in a fast-paced environment with lots of time, being led by people with varied experience levels who come from all over. Maybe the highest ranking cadet at their local unit is a C/SSgt - but encampment is crawling with C/MSgts and C/Capts, with glimpses of C/Majs and even a C/Col. In other words, lots of cadets with way more experience, who must know their stuff, right?

Encampment provides an environment where "15-second showers" can happen, along with the aforementioned tailbone smashers and "bearing busters." As has been pointed out, they're kids. It's fun. So, why stop them?

Because none of that is relevant to the program and can definitely counter what the program is trying to do. Suppose 20 cadets had fun with "bearing busters" and 3-4 cadets had fun administering them. But what about the 1,3 or 5 cadets who went home saying "I don't need this €r@% in my life?" Or the kid who goes home with a bruised tailbone and decides he doesn't want to go back to the local unit?

Another outfall of this stuff has already been mentioned - the local level undoing of mis-designated "time honored encampment traditions." But there's at least one more - parental reaction. Especially parental reaction by parents who have been in the service or even who may have themselves been cadets. When Cadet Timmy comes home with his tales of being subjected to these "time honored traditions" and Dad calls up for an explanation, is "It's kids being....well, kids. Let them enjoy their childhood" really supposed to be our explanation?

I was a cadet for 6 years. Believe me, I had fun. Believe me, I think our cadets now do have and should have fun. But I was blessed with having Seniors around who were savvy enough to draw lines and stop things when necessary. I remain convinced that such needs to happen in the present day, lest it turn into a haphazard collection of made-up "time honored traditions" that serve no legitimate purpose.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: LSThiker on February 04, 2014, 02:22:32 AM
I had a discussion with a C/CMSgt a couple weeks ago about this thing where the cadets doing PT went from a standing position to sitting on their butts in basically an uncontrolled freefall to the ground. Did I mention it was a concrete floor?  Yeah, when told that this sort of thing needed to end lest someone break their tailbone in the process, I was told "But sir, its tradition."

Due to the lack of details, there may be a benefit to this.  There are plenty of aerobic conditioning exercises which have similar moves of quickly moving from one position to the next.  Now on concrete is an ORM issue.  However, "tradition" was not the appropriate answer though.

Since I do not know the circumstances, I am just offering a possible interpretation of your story.

However, the use of "tradition" is usually an annoyance for me when I get upset about guidon stealing, as previously mentioned in one of these encampment threads.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Walkman on February 04, 2014, 10:01:11 AM
Both units (UTWG & MIWG) I've been in have done these "bearing contests" from time to time. I always thought it was just a fun way to work on keeping a solid military bearing in formation. It usually takes up no more than 5 minutes or so. I've even participated here and there. I got one very stonefaced cadet to crack up once by staring him down and then saying "Oh Phooey" in my best Donald Duck voice.

I see your points about its overall relevance. But if its something done from time to time, I don't have ahuge problem with it. Every once in a while, I think its good to introduce a little fun into a meeting.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: talldude on February 06, 2014, 03:35:48 PM
USAF Honor Guard - Rubber Chicken Bearing Test (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AqqmjGzeTQ)

It's a legitimate practice (in the AF at least), and a time honored CAP tradition to get cadets to fall out of formation in bearing tests.

Let me make this nice and clear: Honor Guards in CAP are not the USAF Honor Guard.  They're not the Old Guard. They're not the USMC silent drill team.

Just because the USAF honor guard does something is pretty much absolutely no reason for CAP honor guards to do it.

Its not a "time honored tradition." Its stupid.  Its idiotic. Its dumb.

There, I said it.

I had a discussion with a C/CMSgt a couple weeks ago about this thing where the cadets doing PT went from a standing position to sitting on their butts in basically an uncontrolled freefall to the ground. Did I mention it was a concrete floor?  Yeah, when told that this sort of thing needed to end lest someone break their tailbone in the process, I was told "But sir, its tradition."

Doing something that stupid for no apparent reason is NOT a "tradition." 

Someone acts the fool in front of others to get them to laugh. That's a "tradition?"  Sounds like someone else may have lost his or her military bearing in the process.

How/why is this game stupid?

I don't think I have ever heard of any one getting hurt in a bearing game..   

How could this game injure someone?  If feelings get hurt by them getting called out for breaking bearing, I can only imagine how this "hurt" person would feel and at an encampment or some other tough training environment..

I also see how falling onto your tailbone is dangerous and that some cadet may leave and not come back.. But like I said - If feelings get hurt by them getting called out for breaking bearing, I can only imagine how "hurt" this person would feel and at an encampment or some other tough training environment..

I am not saying that this game is great, I am just saying I don't think that was the most logical argument...
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Eclipse on February 06, 2014, 04:28:12 PM
Senior Members, relax!

Let those cadets have their fun. They were playing, we know. Do not chastise them for their fun... Drill by adults is a very serious business. Another difference is the yelling. Did you hear your Drill Instructors go FLIGHT ATTENTION! at the top of their lungs sounding like they are using a loudspeaker? Nein, nyet, no! But you do hear cadets all the time yelling as if they are using an amplifier when there is no other thing going on...

Flyer

Exactly what I was thinking.  It's kids being... well, kids.  Let them enjoy their childhood.

No, it's cadets acting like children, there's a big difference.

They have plenty of time for "childhood", whatever that means for a 12-18 year old these days. when they are at home.
The joined CAP to be more then that, and CAP expects it.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Eclipse on February 06, 2014, 04:32:22 PM
How/why is this game stupid?

Hmm...for starters, it's unnecessary, unprofessional, and impacts our appearance and reputation to anyone within ear and eyeshot.
Those same Honor Guardsman will be giving themselves mental credit for being in the "top %" of their peers and purporting to
represent CAP's highest and most solemn example, while at the same time acting like goobers.

I don't think I have ever heard of any one getting hurt in a bearing game..

Is that the bar of a good idea these days?  No one gets hurt?
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: NIN on February 06, 2014, 04:32:34 PM
How/why is this game stupid?

Its easy. I even said it. You quoted me:

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Someone acts the fool in front of others to get them to laugh.

That my definition of stupid.

Losing your military bearing in an attempt to get someone else to lose theirs?

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I don't think I have ever heard of any one getting hurt in a bearing game..   

How could this game injure someone?

Nobody is talking about physical injury WRT to the "bearing game." I'm talking about abject loss of your credibility.

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I am not saying that this game is great, I am just saying I don't think that was the most logical argument...

Here, let me give you some logic.

Military bearing is subjective.  What I feel is an appropriate bearing is probably not what 2Lt Noob thinks is appropriate, and is probably not what C/Capt Heighspeed thinks is appropriate.

Unfortunately, there is one of those XKCD-style graphs that should be drawn showing an inverse relationship between "experience" and "lack of military knowledge."

I frequently hear from cadets with 1-2 years in the program about how things aren't "military enough."

Wait, what? "Military enough? Please define."

And the definition usually involves a movie (ie. Full Metal Jacket) or something they read, or something they heard.

I've been around the block a time or two (coming up on 33 years in a uniform in May), and I'm sure I even made some silly statements like that WIWAC.

But since then, I spent 10 years Army enlisted, 21 years as a CAP senior, 7 years as an officer in the Army Cadet Corps, an most of the last 12 months back in a CAP senior member uniform. 

I *might* be in a position to suggest that I have *some* knowledge of when things are "sufficiently military."

And "bearing checks" and "bearing games" are usually "not it."

Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: NIN on February 06, 2014, 04:44:55 PM
Due to the lack of details, there may be a benefit to this.  There are plenty of aerobic conditioning exercises which have similar moves of quickly moving from one position to the next.  Now on concrete is an ORM issue.  However, "tradition" was not the appropriate answer though.

Since I do not know the circumstances, I am just offering a possible interpretation of your story.

However, the use of "tradition" is usually an annoyance for me when I get upset about guidon stealing, as previously mentioned in one of these encampment threads.

Yeah, no, there was no benefit to this. They're standing upright stretching, someone barks "down" and its a race to see who is the last person standing (this was an old encampment thing back WIWAC.  Everybody standing at attention in the base theater, on the command "Seats!" nobody wanted to be the last flight to be sitting. But the base theater had padded seats)  No exercise benefit: just your butt hurtling towards the hard concrete.

It was a busted tailbone CAPF 78 just waiting for a date.

Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Eclipse on February 06, 2014, 04:49:13 PM
I'm talking about abject loss of your credibility.

Easily lost and difficult to regain.
Title: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Storm Chaser on February 06, 2014, 07:45:37 PM
I had a discussion with a C/CMSgt a couple weeks ago about this thing where the cadets doing PT went from a standing position to sitting on their butts in basically an uncontrolled freefall to the ground. Did I mention it was a concrete floor?  Yeah, when told that this sort of thing needed to end lest someone break their tailbone in the process, I was told "But sir, its tradition."

Due to the lack of details, there may be a benefit to this.  There are plenty of aerobic conditioning exercises which have similar moves of quickly moving from one position to the next.  Now on concrete is an ORM issue.  However, "tradition" was not the appropriate answer though.

Since I do not know the circumstances, I am just offering a possible interpretation of your story.

However, the use of "tradition" is usually an annoyance for me when I get upset about guidon stealing, as previously mentioned in one of these encampment threads.

I think enough details were provided. The activity was unsafe. A senior member put a stop to it. The cadet in charge tried to justify it. What's left to interpret here?

Exercise is a good thing if done properly. Otherwise, it can become a potential hazard. The problem with cadets (I've worked with them for many years and used to be one myself) is that they don't always use common sense or good judgement when partaking in these types of activities. Then again, that applies to some senior members as well.

We want the cadets to learn, grow and have fun doing it. But allowing cadets to potentially get injured, especially when avoidable, should never be part of the equation.
Title: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Storm Chaser on February 06, 2014, 07:46:35 PM
Duplicate post. Moderators, please delete.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: LSThiker on February 06, 2014, 10:19:14 PM
Yeah, no, there was no benefit to this. They're standing upright stretching, someone barks "down" and its a race to see who is the last person standing (this was an old encampment thing back WIWAC.  Everybody standing at attention in the base theater, on the command "Seats!" nobody wanted to be the last flight to be sitting. But the base theater had padded seats)  No exercise benefit: just your butt hurtling towards the hard concrete.

It was a busted tailbone CAPF 78 just waiting for a date.

Thanks.  From your follow-up details, it is clear that they were not doing an aerobic exercise such as a "front-back-go" or similar calisthenic with the purpose of instructing, demonstrating, or conditioning.  Rather yes it was goofing off.

Exercise is a good thing if done properly. Otherwise, it can become a potential hazard. The problem with cadets (I've worked with them for many years and used to be one myself) is that they don't always use common sense or good judgement when partaking in these types of activities. Then again, that applies to some senior members as well.

Yes.  All of which I summarized saying that it could be an ORM issue.  Had the cadet been doing an aerobic exercise, the issue would have been he did not perform the proper risk assessment and take the proper risk controls as evidenced by doing it on concrete.  However, from NIN's follow-up details, it is pretty clear he was not performing an exercise, but rather screwing around during stretching.  Thereby it clearly was not an ORM issue, but rather a lack of judgement.  The "down" command clearly has no benefit or exercise purpose.

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But allowing cadets to potentially get injured, especially when avoidable, should never be part of the equation.

Unless the proper risk assessment is conducted and appropriate controls taken.  Playing a game of volleyball, for example, may have a moderate potential of risk (depending on how you assess the activity).  However, you can mitigate the risk by ensuring cadets wear knee pads, discourage diving and sliding, and if possible playing on a softer surface (which may have its own risks if playing on sand for example).
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Panache on February 07, 2014, 01:04:55 AM
Senior Members, relax!

Let those cadets have their fun. They were playing, we know. Do not chastise them for their fun... Drill by adults is a very serious business. Another difference is the yelling. Did you hear your Drill Instructors go FLIGHT ATTENTION! at the top of their lungs sounding like they are using a loudspeaker? Nein, nyet, no! But you do hear cadets all the time yelling as if they are using an amplifier when there is no other thing going on...

Flyer

Exactly what I was thinking.  It's kids being... well, kids.  Let them enjoy their childhood.

No, it's cadets acting like children, there's a big difference.

They have plenty of time for "childhood", whatever that means for a 12-18 year old these days. when they are at home.
The joined CAP to be more then that, and CAP expects it.

But they still are children, whether you like it or not.  Expecting them to be "all business, all the time" is not realistic nor healthy.

Heck, even active-duty RealMilitary™ members, both Enlisted and Officer, are allowed to occasionally blow off steam and be goofy.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: talldude on February 07, 2014, 01:46:02 AM
I agree.. :)
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Eclipse on February 07, 2014, 09:59:33 AM
But they still are children, whether you like it or not.  Expecting them to be "all business, all the time" is not realistic nor healthy.

No one is.  We're expecting them to comport themselves like cadets for 2-3 hours a week they come to a meeting or an activity.
A meeting or activity they voluntarily joined, specifically in prt to participate in the discipline and structure of something
large then themselves, and that goes double for Honor Guardsman.

Heck, even active-duty RealMilitary™ members, both Enlisted and Officer, are allowed to occasionally blow off steam and be goofy.

CAP cadets don't have "steam" to blow off.  Where does this idea come from?
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Panache on February 07, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
CAP cadets don't have "steam" to blow off.  Where does this idea come from?

Are you implying children don't have stress in their lives?
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Eclipse on February 07, 2014, 12:06:48 PM
CAP cadets don't have "steam" to blow off.  Where does this idea come from?

Are you implying children don't have stress in their lives?

No, I'm saying that kids come to CAP as a stress reliever and change from their normal universe
of less structure and discipline.   They literally join, in part, for the very things that some misguided
commanders act like is "too much".

The don't want to show up to an environment where the adults act like children, and treat the cadets
in the same way.  The want to participate in an environment where things are taken seriously, the
expectations are heightened, and people get some work done.

That doesn't mean people can't enjoy themselves. but the enjoyment should come from the accomplishment
and team environment and leave any acting like  goober for non-public, non-uniformed, after hours situations.

You can't compare a cadets 2-hour a week, or even encampment experience to the military, not even a little.
And even our most "hard-core" experiences like NESA, HMRS, or PJOC, end before they ever get close to
being oppressive or stressful for the average cadet in the way being implied.



Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Storm Chaser on February 07, 2014, 12:23:37 PM

CAP cadets don't have "steam" to blow off.  Where does this idea come from?

Are you implying children don't have stress in their lives?

No, I'm saying that kids come to CAP as a stress reliever and change from their normal universe
of less structure and discipline.   They literally join, in part, for the very things that some misguided
commanders act like is "too much".

The don't want to show up to an environment where the adults act like children, and treat the cadets
in the same way.  The want to participate in an environment where things are taken seriously, the
expectations are heightened, and people get some work done.

That doesn't mean people can't enjoy themselves. but the enjoyment should come from the accomplishment
and team environment and leave any acting like  goober for non-public, non-uniformed, after hours situations.

You can't compare a cadets 2-hour a week, or even encampment experience to the military, not even a little.
And even our most "hard-core" experiences like NESA, HMRS, or PJOC, end before they ever get close to
being oppressive or stressful for the average cadet in the way being implied.

I hate to say this, but I agree with Eclipse. I've experienced this both as a cadet and as an adult leader.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: nmkaufman0 on March 09, 2014, 10:24:17 PM
Apologies for my recent bad spelling... I was using my cell phone to type.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: SilentPhantom on June 04, 2014, 05:59:33 PM
A few months ago my flight was preparing for an inspection in a classroom. The Flight Commander from our Basic Traning Flight walks into the room and says, "Hey, have any of guys seen a bunch a' basics walking around?" We all answered in the negative. He looks us up and down and says, "You guys don't look like you know what you're doing." He then exits the room. A C/A1C says as soon as the Flt/CC's out of earshot, "Says the flight commander who lost his flight. That got a good bout of laughs from the flight.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Cadetter on June 05, 2014, 01:06:37 PM
A cadet at an activity when we were crossing water. Always the gentleman, when asked who should go first across a poorly constructed bridge we created, he said, "Ladies first!" ;)

(This is a cadet who calls all female sergeants and officers "sir")
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: SilentPhantom on June 05, 2014, 01:53:21 PM
A cadet at an activity when we were crossing water. Always the gentleman, when asked who should go first across a poorly constructed bridge we created, he said, "Ladies first!" ;)

(This is a cadet who calls all female sergeants and officers "sir")

 I know a few cadets like that lol  ;D
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Cadetter on June 05, 2014, 01:57:12 PM
He's third-best comedian in the squadron :-)
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: SilentPhantom on June 05, 2014, 02:52:18 PM
He's third-best comedian in the squadron :-)

I'll have to visit your squadron sometime lol
Most of cadets in my squadron are comedians, along with ALL of the cadet staff (myself included) and most of the senior staff...  ;D
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Cadetter on June 05, 2014, 02:57:08 PM
Unfortunately our C/CC is not a comedian, and isn't amused at our pranksters and comedians. One of our pranksters grabbed everybody's blues cover and one rank once... that was an interesting inspection, to say the least!
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: SilentPhantom on June 05, 2014, 03:17:48 PM
Unfortunately our C/CC is not a comedian, and isn't amused at our pranksters and comedians. One of our pranksters grabbed everybody's blues cover and one rank once... that was an interesting inspection, to say the least!

ohh, that's no fun.. Luckily my C/CC is one of the most experienced comedians in the squadron  ;) There was a propsed prank that the airmen would all get Colonel insignia and walk around, pity it never happend...
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Cadetter on June 05, 2014, 03:26:57 PM
Haha, my squadron doesn't even have Spaatz insignia!

Our two best comedians are twins, they're going away soon, so we'll be desolate. Unfortunately, our C/CC sees their funning as insubordination sometimes, so... they make a joke of it!
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PA Guy on June 05, 2014, 03:51:03 PM
Haha, my squadron doesn't even have Spaatz insignia!

Our two best comedians are twins, they're going away soon, so we'll be desolate. Unfortunately, our C/CC sees their funning as insubordination sometimes, so... they make a joke of it!

Based on what you have posted in this thread you have made your sqdn sound like a clown colony. Yet in another thread you are asking for advice on how to motivate cadets to promote. Do you think there could be a connection???
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Cadetter on June 05, 2014, 04:27:59 PM
Haha, my squadron doesn't even have Spaatz insignia!

Our two best comedians are twins, they're going away soon, so we'll be desolate. Unfortunately, our C/CC sees their funning as insubordination sometimes, so... they make a joke of it!

Based on what you have posted in this thread you have made your sqdn sound like a clown colony. Yet in another thread you are asking for advice on how to motivate cadets to promote. Do you think there could be a connection???

Our squadron can get like a clown colony, on off time. We are professional when necessary. There could be a connection, yes. What specifically though. (please answer in the other thread however... this has only a little to do with favorite cadet quotes)
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Airplane girl on September 25, 2014, 09:46:43 AM
Conversation between a C/AB and a senior member. It is right before the PT test and the cadets are filling out the top of the paper where they put how they did on the PT test. The confused C/AB wrote 7 where it said grade.

SM: 7?
C/AB: Yeah, I'm in 7th grade.
SM: 7th grade?
C/AB: Yeah...
SM: You're a C/AB, that's your grade in CAP.
C/AB: Oh, that grade.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: BHartman007 on September 25, 2014, 02:58:54 PM
...the cadets are filling out the top of the paper where they put how they did on the PT test...

Huh?
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: PHall on September 25, 2014, 08:26:38 PM
...the cadets are filling out the top of the paper where they put how they did on the PT test...

Huh?

Her unit seems to have a local form to record CPFT results.  No mystery there.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on September 25, 2014, 08:49:29 PM
We used to use them before the PT report in Eservices. There were 5 versions for phases and Spaatz. It's still probably on the national site.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: lcaron24 on October 19, 2014, 06:30:32 PM
A cadet that is still in the sq. was being asked the phonetic alphabet the first meeting I went to. So here is the dialog

Comms Officer: A?
Cadet: Alpha
Comms: Z?
Cadet: Zulu
Comms: O?
Cadet: Oboe  :clap:

He said that with a straight face and our XO of cadets just loses it. A few meetings go by and it's not brought up. I walk into the building and I hear the cadet just blurt out oboe while talking to the XO of cadets. Straight faced.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: brent.teal on November 27, 2014, 12:52:57 AM
During a  nav weekend one of the cadets was stung by several bees and  once in the rear and exclaims I've been analy probed by a bee!  I about died.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: brent.teal on December 03, 2014, 06:16:42 PM
Just yesterday our commander asked our newer cadets what was the significance of 12/1.  After a long silence one of our cadets said in all seriousness.  The first day of December.  talk about a bearing breaker.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: raivo on December 18, 2014, 01:12:18 AM
A cadet that is still in the sq. was being asked the phonetic alphabet the first meeting I went to. So here is the dialog

Comms Officer: A?
Cadet: Alpha
Comms: Z?
Cadet: Zulu
Comms: O?
Cadet: Oboe  :clap:

He said that with a straight face and our XO of cadets just loses it. A few meetings go by and it's not brought up. I walk into the building and I hear the cadet just blurt out oboe while talking to the XO of cadets. Straight faced.

Back at OTS, one of my classmates was being grilled on the phonetic alphabet and mistakenly said "UNICORN" instead of "UNIFORM" for "U."

"THERE ARE NO MYTHICAL CREATURES IN THE PHONETIC ALPHABET, OT!"
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Spaceman3750 on January 18, 2015, 09:42:47 PM
At NESA this year, a cadet GSAR student asked me "Sir, how is it that all you staff members always look so rested?"

Clearly, we were doing a good job of fooling them.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Afbrat52 on January 21, 2015, 09:53:47 PM
C/CMSgt: Do I look like a sir?!
Basic Cadet: No ma'am!

The whole flight burst out laughing. The next morning was lots more pushups than usual. Who knows why...
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Eclipse on January 21, 2015, 11:57:23 PM
C/CMSgt: Do I look like a sir?!
Basic Cadet: No ma'am!

The whole flight burst out laughing. The next morning was lots more pushups than usual. Who knows why...

Cadet, you seem to be a magnet for people violating regulations...
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on January 22, 2015, 02:24:02 AM
C/CMSgt: Do I look like a sir?!
Basic Cadet: No ma'am!

The whole flight burst out laughing. The next morning was lots more pushups than usual. Who knows why...

Cadet, you seem to be a magnet for people violating regulations...

Seriously...
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: C/CMSgt Allen on October 05, 2015, 06:25:49 PM
"You will not smile at attention, or I will pickle you in a pickle jar!"- C/CMSgt Schultz
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: JC004 on October 05, 2015, 10:11:43 PM
Cadet finishing his proposed objectives for wing Cadet Advisory Council: "....with minimal senior interference." 

I try to use these words of wisdom in all cadet activity planning, to this day. 
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on October 07, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
I'm not a proponent of "bearing tests", but as a little end of the night "fun" activity, within reason, and rarely, sure why not.

After the staff did their typical "you lost that lovely feeling" and a few more routines that got all the cadets out, the cadets wanted revenge to break the staff. Due to school testing, only two staffers were on hand, but they agreed to the turnabout.

I observed for 5 minutes, as the "rookies" did their best to try to break the staff, with no success.

I came up to the NCO and asked him "Sergeant, what's my first name?"
He almost broke right there. After a few minutes of resisting the silly stuff the cadets were using to try to break them, clearly they weren't thinking logically anymore!
He came back with "I do not know sir, but I will find out". I told him that was a good answer.
Then he comes back with "Sir, may I ask a question?".
"Go ahead Sergeant".
"Sir, what is your first name".
"Top Secret".
Here, the newer cadets go into the cliche "he'd tell you but he'd have to kill you!".
I had to of course correct them and explained, "no my name truly is Top Secret, my parents were very cruel".
ALMOST got him with that.
Came back with "Sergeant, what's my Last name?" I was leading him to say my full name eventually, hoping that the silliness would do it.
What I didn't expect, was the "blank slate" going on after the initial volley, where he dropped out of formation because he couldn't look to the side to read my nameplate, and completely blanked. Mission accomplished.

Up next was the C/LtCol. Former Cadet commander, a recipient of numerous emails and interactions.
"Colonel, what's my first name?"
Two seconds of thought, and he breaks out in a grin, and drops out.

Right around this time the Sergeant remembers my first name.

What's the point of this?

Sometimes a few moments of "silly" is good for morale. The in-ranks cadets loved it. The staff got to do something silly as well.
Because of the nature of our organization, first names are sometimes lost in translation/not thought about.
So far I'm the only person to break cadet staff during one of these.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Hummingbird on March 29, 2016, 10:08:58 PM
During a fundraiser my flight sergeant said "I hope it rains" when storm clouds began forming above the Walmart parking lot we were in.

Two hours later nothing was dry except the color guard in their CAPmobile.
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Brit_in_CAP on March 30, 2016, 09:28:11 AM
Sometimes a few moments of "silly" is good for morale. The in-ranks cadets loved it. The staff got to do something silly as well.
Because of the nature of our organization, first names are sometimes lost in translation/not thought about.
So far I'm the only person to break cadet staff during one of these.
:clap:  Wholeheartedly agree! 
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Toasty on December 29, 2016, 12:38:54 PM
"DESTROY THE EMPIRE!!!"

At the MN Wing 2016 Encampment, I was a Flight Sergeant in the 18th CTG 38th CTS.  Our squadron was called the Rogue Squadron (Star Wars reference).  Our Squadron Commander (who was incredible, by the way) started this thing where if anyone in our squadron said "Destroy the Empire" you would have to respond with "Destroy the Empire".  It was great and we got everyone doing it.  It really heightened morale.

And, when we got on the buses to go to the Range for obstacle courses, our Squadron Commander yelled "Rogue Trip!" (like Road Trip).  He started this call and response thing where he would say things and then the students would respond.  It went like this:

"When I say Rogue, you say trip.  Rogue-"
"Trip!"
"Rogue-"
"Trip!"

We did that a few times.  It was outstanding.  One of the best times of my life.  Long live the Rogue Squadron!
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Capt. Blues on December 30, 2016, 09:50:17 PM
"I recommend PT on a daily basis. It is sorta like a substitute for breakfast, except it shouldn't go too fast, and you should not be taking too many breaks. Remember - keep it healthy."

Heh...
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: TheSkyHornet on December 31, 2016, 05:07:28 AM
Cadet: "Do I have to run today?"
Senior A: "I can't make you do anything. But why don't you want to run?"
Cadet: "Because my thumb is broke."
Senior A: "What does that have to do with running?"
Cadet: *shrugs*
Senior A: "Does running affect your thumb?"
Cadet: "Well, when I run, it hurts. When it hurts, it throbs. When it throbs, I cry. When I cry, I cry tears of sadness. Nobody wants that."

Senior A: "(Senior B), can you please come over here? (Cadet), explain to (Senior B), what you just said."
Cadet: "Well, I said I couldn't run because of my thumb."
Senior B: "Okay...?"
Senior A:" No, tell him what you just told me."
Cadet: "When I run, it hurts. When it hurts, it throbs. When it throbs, I cry. When---"
Senior B: "I'm going to go back over here and pretend like I'm not a member of this unit."

*outside during the PT run*

Senior C: "How come you're not running today?"
Cadet: *looks at Senior A*
Senior A: "Go ahead. Tell him."
Cadet: "When I run, it hurts. When it hurts, it throbs. When it throbs, I cry. When I cry, I cry tears of sadness, and nobody wants to see that."
Senior C: "I'm very confused here. I'll just go back inside."
Senior A: "Stop scaring away all my senior members!"
Title: Re: Favorite Cadet Quotes
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on December 31, 2016, 10:12:55 AM
Neat!

Even if others post here, you win the Cadet Quote Oscar!

 ;D