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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: Smoothice on January 27, 2010, 03:18:55 PM

Title: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Smoothice on January 27, 2010, 03:18:55 PM
Hello,
Besides E-Bay, with which I never have good luck, does anyone know where to find the official nomex sage green suits for decent money?

thanks!
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 03:36:49 PM
Check here: http://tinyurl.com/yl7x36r
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: ascorbate on January 27, 2010, 03:37:48 PM
In the past, I have ordered from:

Oscodapete's Collectibles
http://www.auctiva.com/stores/viewstore2.aspx?id=49219&page=home

and have been most satisfied with the clothing, prices and customer service!
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Smoothice on January 27, 2010, 03:38:50 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 03:36:49 PM
Check here: http://tinyurl.com/yl7x36r

never seen that before....thats funny!    I tried that. Can't seem to find anyting under 150.   :-(

Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Fuzzy on January 27, 2010, 03:51:24 PM
Military surplus store. Got mine there.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: Smoothice on January 27, 2010, 03:38:50 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 03:36:49 PM
Check here: http://tinyurl.com/yl7x36r

never seen that before....thats funny!    I tried that. Can't seem to find anyting under 150.   :-(

Yep - that's about the going rate.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Fuzzy on January 27, 2010, 05:18:54 PM
Plus; name patch, command patch, American flag, and squadron or other specialty patch.

Boots and flight cap too I suppose.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: MIKE on January 27, 2010, 06:16:26 PM
Squadron/Unit patch is a no-go. RIF.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: MIKE on January 27, 2010, 06:16:26 PM
Squadron/Unit patch is a no-go. RIF.

Squadron or unit patches may be worn if approved by your wing.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Larry Mangum on January 27, 2010, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: MIKE on January 27, 2010, 06:16:26 PM
Squadron/Unit patch is a no-go. RIF.

Squadron or unit patches may be worn if approved by your wing.

Actually not, a wing patch is the lowest level of unit patch allowed. Even a Region commander cannot approve a supplement that changes what can be worn on the flight suit.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Smoothice on January 27, 2010, 08:24:19 PM
Ok, so , real quick....

Does the AF Style Flightsuit HAVE to be NOMEX?? I found one online that is alot cheaper. It looks just like the ones I see the other pilots in, but the seller tells me it is battle rip style material with teflon woven in. Is that ok?? Its like half the price new!

thanks
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Al Sayre on January 27, 2010, 08:30:52 PM
It's fine if you want to be shrink wrapped in a fire.

Seriously, If it's not nomex, don't waste your money.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 27, 2010, 08:30:52 PM
It's fine if you want to be shrink wrapped in a fire.

Seriously, If it's not nomex, don't waste your money.

Yeah, we've been here before.

Nomex is not required in most wings, and most likely if you lawn dart a CAP plane, fire is the least of your worries.

The $35 CAP jumpsuit works just as well.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Smoothice on January 27, 2010, 08:44:34 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 27, 2010, 08:30:52 PM
It's fine if you want to be shrink wrapped in a fire.

Seriously, If it's not nomex, don't waste your money.

Yeah, we've been here before.

Nomex is not required in most wings, and most likely if you lawn dart a CAP plane, fire is the least of your worries.

The $35 CAP jumpsuit works just as well.



I was thinking the same thing...
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on January 27, 2010, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: Smoothice on January 27, 2010, 08:44:34 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 27, 2010, 08:30:52 PM
It's fine if you want to be shrink wrapped in a fire.

Seriously, If it's not nomex, don't waste your money.

Yeah, we've been here before.

Nomex is not required in most wings, and most likely if you lawn dart a CAP plane, fire is the least of your worries.

The $35 CAP jumpsuit works just as well.



I was thinking the same thing...

Which is exactly what I have: the blue CAP utility jumpsuit, and blue MA-1 Rothco flight jacket.

It's not like we are riding rockets full of jet fuel.

Auger in a 172 and you'll be lucky if you survive the impact long enough to be burnt by any fire.

Note: AF flight cap not allowed with this uniform.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: a2capt on January 28, 2010, 04:50:12 AM
The flight suit sizes are based on the standard 38, 40, 42,  44 .. numbers.

Then they are short, regular and long.

Go on eBay, put in CWU 27 and go shopping.

Anywhere from $19 to $59 for new, never issued even, buy-it-now.

I've never paid for than $40 for one including delivery.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: SarDragon on January 28, 2010, 07:09:33 AM
Green ones are pretty easy to find on eBay. The blue ones are not. It took five tries to get one in my price range.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Smoothice on January 28, 2010, 01:51:34 PM
Thanks for the advice! Actually found one, in my size (wow!) brand new in the bag...well, according to the E-Bay listing! It was only 80.00....not bad!

So, now I have another question...I am starting MS training, and should be quickly moving through MO eventually. I am also a rated pilot, hoping to be a VFR pilot and then someday a Mission Pilot. So, can I get one of those leather name patches with "MISSION SCANNER" on it, and not the wings while I "train" or, can I get it with just my name and rank? And then at some point I will get it with wings.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: DC on January 28, 2010, 02:07:35 PM
Quote from: Smoothice on January 28, 2010, 01:51:34 PM
Thanks for the advice! Actually found one, in my size (wow!) brand new in the bag...well, according to the E-Bay listing! It was only 80.00....not bad!

So, now I have another question...I am starting MS training, and should be quickly moving through MO eventually. I am also a rated pilot, hoping to be a VFR pilot and then someday a Mission Pilot. So, can I get one of those leather name patches with "MISSION SCANNER" on it, and not the wings while I "train" or, can I get it with just my name and rank? And then at some point I will get it with wings.

Thanks!
If you get Form 5'ed you can slap some CAP pilot wings on there. I would not put MISSION SCANNER on there until you actually have the qualification. Same for the observer wings.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Smoothice on January 28, 2010, 02:11:03 PM
Good idea. So would it be wrong to have it completely blank except for name/rank while training?
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Thom on January 28, 2010, 03:55:05 PM
Quote from: Smoothice on January 28, 2010, 02:11:03 PM
Good idea. So would it be wrong to have it completely blank except for name/rank while training?

Nope.

That is exactly what it should look like if you don't have any applicable ratings.

Just your name, with grade and CAP underneath.

The Vanguard site was updated sometime in the last 3 to 5 months (before the major site overhaul...) to include the proper options for No Rating, Name Only, etc.

I know, because I just got mine and it looks perfect!

NB: I feel a little funny praising Vanguard for ANYTHING, but they seem to have gotten this correct, so credit where it is due.

Thom
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: c172drv on January 28, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
Saw this and thought it might be of help.  This appears to be the company with the contract to provide flight suits to DoD.

http://www.carterny.com/index.php/
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Hawk200 on January 28, 2010, 06:36:08 PM
Quote from: c172drv on January 28, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
Saw this and thought it might be of help.  This appears to be the company with the contract to provide flight suits to DoD.

http://www.carterny.com/index.php/
Those are all new suits, and the price isn't too bad for new but it could still be better. There are loads of "gently used" ones out there for a third to quarter the price.

It also doesn't have to come from a DoD contractor, but it should be at least mil spec.

All depends on how much (or little) money you want to spend, and how hard you want to look for it.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: HPM_CAP on January 29, 2010, 05:28:45 PM
BDU.com

$159 - the best price I have seen for new flight suits.

Propper quality is very good.

http://www.bdu.com/F511546347.html (http://www.bdu.com/F511546347.html)
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Mustang on January 30, 2010, 08:39:31 AM
Quote from: Who_knows? on January 27, 2010, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 27, 2010, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: MIKE on January 27, 2010, 06:16:26 PM
Squadron/Unit patch is a no-go. RIF.
Squadron or unit patches may be worn if approved by your wing.
Actually not, a wing patch is the lowest level of unit patch allowed. Even a Region commander cannot approve a supplement that changes what can be worn on the flight suit.

True for the sage green one, but here's what the Knowledge Base says regarding the blue variants (as of Jan 2010):
QuoteMembers do have the option on wearing one additional authorized patch of the member's choice on the right shoulder of the Blue Flight Suit and Blue Flight Jacket and the CAP Blue Utility Uniform. For a list of the optional shoulder patches which may be worn see CAPM 39-1 Table 6-4. Wear of Badges, Patches, and Devices on Flight Suits, BDUs, Utility Uniforms and Field Uniforms.

I've submitted a Knowledge Base question asking if the omission of organizational patches from the sage green flight suit was intentional.
Title: Re: Where to get Flight Suit
Post by: Mustang on January 30, 2010, 08:40:50 AM
Quote from: c172drv on January 28, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
Saw this and thought it might be of help.  This appears to be the company with the contract to provide flight suits to DoD.
http://www.carterny.com/index.php/

One of many.