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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: maverik on January 27, 2010, 03:58:14 AM

Title: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: maverik on January 27, 2010, 03:58:14 AM
Hello all I hope this is the right section for this.  Anyways as a cadet of both CAP and Army JROTC I have to say I really see the greatness of the leadership text and what it's all about.  Basically in JROTC form what I have seen there isn't a heck of a whole lot of true structure it's more of a bunch of cadets getting a position and not truely knowing how to use this leadership role so I came up with the idea of making a leadership guide a sort of SOP with my knowledge of CAP leadership about communication, morals, influencing others etc. but I come to you asking what do you believe should be included? What are the points of leadership? This is kind of like a guide to help the cadets in JROTC become better leaders.
Title: Re: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: Pylon on January 27, 2010, 04:37:44 AM
Why not use the new CAP leadership textbooks? 

http://www.capmembers.com/cadet_programs/library/learn_to_lead.cfm
Title: Re: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: DogCollar on January 27, 2010, 02:13:51 PM
Quote from: Pylon on January 27, 2010, 04:37:44 AM
Why not use the new CAP leadership textbooks? 

http://www.capmembers.com/cadet_programs/library/learn_to_lead.cfm

Exactly.  A wise leader doesn't try to re-invent the wheel if it is not necessary.  Using available resources...if they are applicaple to the organization...is good stewardship.
Title: Re: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: Nathan on January 27, 2010, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: Pylon on January 27, 2010, 04:37:44 AM
Why not use the new CAP leadership textbooks? 

http://www.capmembers.com/cadet_programs/library/learn_to_lead.cfm

Might have to do with the apparently obligatory inter-cadet program rivalry.
Title: Re: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: maverik on January 28, 2010, 03:32:07 AM
I never understood the rivalry two totally different missions CAP doens't even really compete in JROTC competitions so I don't understand but oh well they like to gawk at my uniform when i change into it after school waiting for my commander to pick me up. Anyways that new leadership material looks interesting but I may just go with the leadership for the 21 st century and then whatever officers use (I assume it's a different book? I should know considering I'm about to get the Mitchell.)
Title: Re: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: DC on January 28, 2010, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: maverik on January 28, 2010, 03:32:07 AM
I never understood the rivalry two totally different missions CAP doens't even really compete in JROTC competitions so I don't understand but oh well they like to gawk at my uniform when i change into it after school waiting for my commander to pick me up. Anyways that new leadership material looks interesting but I may just go with the leadership for the 21 st century and then whatever officers use (I assume it's a different book? I should know considering I'm about to get the Mitchell.)
Officers use Volume 2A and 2B of Leadership 2000 and Beyond (Leadership for the 21st Century is the same book in a different wrapper). Same format, more advanced material. You will get a totally new AE book, called Aerospace: The Journey of Flight, though...
Title: Re: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: Pingree1492 on January 29, 2010, 03:13:42 AM
A better guide for what you're trying to create may be the CAPP 52-15, Cadet Staff Handbook.
Title: Re: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: maverik on January 29, 2010, 03:15:33 AM
hmm why do you say that?
Title: Re: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: Pingree1492 on January 29, 2010, 03:27:01 AM
May I assume you've actually read the pamphlet?  If not, start there...

Quote from: maverik on January 27, 2010, 03:58:14 AM[snip]Basically in JROTC form what I have seen there isn't a heck of a whole lot of true structure it's more of a bunch of cadets getting a position and not truely knowing how to use this leadership role so I came up with the idea of making a leadership guide a sort of SOP with my knowledge of CAP leadership about communication, morals, influencing others etc. but I come to you asking what do you believe should be included? What are the points of leadership? This is kind of like a guide to help the cadets in JROTC become better leaders.

You can ignore the stuff at the back about different squadron structures, and even the position descriptions.  The front of the pamphlet contains a lot of great information about how to handle some of the management side of leadership.  Let's face it, you can be the most charismatic and inspirational leader around, but if you don't have the organizational skills and goals and direction to back that up (or aren't willing to listen to those who do), then what you're doing is going to be pretty much pointless.

If you're seeing cadets having trouble taking on their leadership role, a lot of the time it's going to be because they don't have clear guidance on what they can and can't do.  You want to be careful not to box people in and limit creativity; however, everyone needs some direction, more so when you're new and/or just learning how to be a leader.
Title: Re: Designing a type of leadership guide
Post by: maverik on January 29, 2010, 03:35:20 AM
More so I want to give the battalion something so that they can understand follwership-leadership and everywhere in between not just staff.