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Operations => Tools of the trade => Topic started by: Hoorah on December 31, 2009, 05:43:40 PM

Title: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on December 31, 2009, 05:43:40 PM
What are your exsperiences with SAR catalogs. Please list SAR catalogs.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: IceNine on December 31, 2009, 05:47:53 PM
STOP IT!

Ask a direct question with an actual purpose and stop asking for lists.  Google will make a list for you.

If you want equipment, go search for an individual item you will get the best sampling and most valuable information if you research the items you want.  You can use this forum, or any number of others.

Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on December 31, 2009, 05:53:40 PM
Wow. :-(
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Strick on December 31, 2009, 05:57:16 PM
Are you looking at buying some gear or equipment?
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on December 31, 2009, 06:00:03 PM
Yes and from catalogs.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Bobble on December 31, 2009, 06:20:34 PM
CCW -

Actually, it would be nice to see you do a little leg work once in a while before you post.  You may be young, but you obviously have a rudimentary acquaintance with computer technology, and could probably use the Google search function quite handily and/or search existing threads here at CAP Talk.  We all (I hope) check in here to perhaps learn something new, but it is also generally considered a good thing to thoughtfully contribute information to the discussions when and if possible.

The military has many terms for those individuals always looking to receive but never to give.  Amongst others, see "Sponge", "Check-Valve", and "One-Way".
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Stonewall on December 31, 2009, 06:32:32 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on December 31, 2009, 05:43:40 PM
What are your exsperiences with SAR catalogs. Please list SAR catalogs.

Your question:
  What is your experience with SAR catalogs?

My answer:  Well, there are very few "SAR Catalogs" out there.  What I think you're asking for is "where can I find a catalog that has gear I can use for doing CAP ground search & rescue".  Is this a more accurate description of the information you are seeking? 

As a young cadet who can't seem to find this answer on his own, my guess is that you're too young and not qualified to actually perform true search & rescue operations.  If you take a look, you'll see that "SAR catalogs" have very expensive, high-end, professional search & rescue equipment that paid professionals use.  Not something a CAP cadet would need for NESA's ground team member course.

Guess what I did?  I went to www.google.com and typed in "Search and Rescue Equipment" then I typed in "Emergency Services Equipment" and hit the "Google Search" button.  It's that easy!!!!

I was a cadet before the internet was available.  If I needed ES gear I'd call Ranger Joe's, Brigade Quartermaster, Kaufman's West, US Cavalry, the CAP Supply Depot (not around anymore) and ask them to send me a catalog in the mail.  Guess what?  They'll still do that for you!

Take some initiative and do some work on your own. 

http://www.searchgear.com/

http://www.rescueresponse.com/

http://www.pacificrescue.com/

http://www.afmo.com/Search_and_Rescue_Gear_s/18.htm

http://www.mountaintek.com/

http://www.safetycentral.com/disres.html

http://www.homeland1.com/homeland-security-products/search-rescue-equipment-sar/

http://www.sarinfo.bc.ca/Sarprdct.htm

http://www.rocknrescue.com/

http://www.aerialmachineandtool.com/

Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on December 31, 2009, 06:37:36 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: MIKE on December 31, 2009, 06:40:09 PM
Don't feed the troll.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on December 31, 2009, 07:12:30 PM
Who Is the troll.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Strick on December 31, 2009, 07:19:23 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on December 31, 2009, 07:12:30 PM
Who Is the troll ?

corrected >:D
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on December 31, 2009, 08:30:32 PM
I  would like some search tips please.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Bobble on December 31, 2009, 08:46:40 PM
As requested:

http://www.botachtactical.com/gemiprkit.html

You're welcome.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Senior on January 02, 2010, 01:33:54 AM
Stonewall,
You know all the cool links ;)
Nice way to talk to the young ;)
I didn't know Kaufman's was still around.  I visited there when
I was at PJOC and APJOC. 
NASAR has good books, cadet Williams.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Stonewall on January 02, 2010, 01:40:27 AM
Quote from: Senior on January 02, 2010, 01:33:54 AM

I didn't know Kaufman's was still around. 

Nor did I.  I just remember them from my pre-cadet days, like early to mid-80s.  They had full-page ads in Soldier of Fortune Magazine.  They were cool because they sold used gear.  I loved used gear as a cadet, made you look salty.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: JayT on January 02, 2010, 04:23:21 AM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on December 31, 2009, 08:30:32 PM
I  would like some search tips please.

Log onto Google. Type what you're looking for. Press enter.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Seabee219 on January 02, 2010, 03:30:45 PM
  SOme of the comments might be harmless to some, but to a young cadet it may not be.  Our Job as members is to help one another.  The comment about leg work first is good, it gives him direction on what do to.  just telling him to not ask is not correcting the problem at hand.  Yes the fourms are not our squadron but give the young lad direction.  As a DCC I think it's rude just to tell him to STOP! sorry sir, just my thoughts.

Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: davidsinn on January 02, 2010, 03:39:14 PM
Quote from: Seabee219 on January 02, 2010, 03:30:45 PM
  SOme of the comments might be harmless to some, but to a young cadet it may not be.  Our Job as members is to help one another.  The comment about leg work first is good, it gives him direction on what do to.  just telling him to not ask is not correcting the problem at hand.  Yes the fourms are not our squadron but give the young lad direction.  As a DCC I think it's rude just to tell him to STOP! sorry sir, just my thoughts.

You bring up good points but what you don't realize since you've only been around for four months is that this particular cadet has a long history of posting like this. We have tried giving advice both privately and publicly and it just doesn't appear to stick for some reason. Some of us are getting frustrated.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Stonewall on January 02, 2010, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on January 02, 2010, 03:39:14 PMYou bring up good points but what you don't realize since you've only been around for four months is that this particular cadet has a long history of posting like this. We have tried giving advice both privately and publicly and it just doesn't appear to stick for some reason. Some of us are getting frustrated.

Exactly.  I think it's time for some time away from CAP Talk for the young man.  I've PM'd this guy myself only after he PM'd me asking for guidance.  Obviously he hasn't taken any advice (not criticism or flaming, but polite constructive advice) to heart.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on January 02, 2010, 05:58:56 PM
I have decided that I will not make any further topics till Feb 15th 2010. I will though post in topics when I need to.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Stonewall on January 02, 2010, 06:02:41 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on January 02, 2010, 05:58:56 PM
I have decided that I will not make any further topics till Feb 15th 2010. I will though post in topics when I need to.

Thank you.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on January 02, 2010, 06:10:27 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on January 02, 2010, 06:02:41 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on January 02, 2010, 05:58:56 PMI have decided that I will not make any further topics till Feb 15th 2010. I will though post in topics when I need to.
Thank you.
Your welcome.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on January 07, 2010, 12:48:45 AM
Oh boy lately  I hit the jackpocket ordering free catalogs. Though now I  have slamd to a halt I am having trouble registering with GSA.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on January 09, 2010, 07:46:59 PM
I have a list of catalogs. Let me  know if your interrested in what catalogs I have? The list changes Monday through Satarday.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Pumbaa on January 09, 2010, 11:29:39 PM
AAaarrggghhhh!!!
(http://www.poly.edu/library/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/computer-out-window.jpg)
My head is about to explode...
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on January 10, 2010, 12:44:01 AM
Why.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on January 10, 2010, 12:44:48 AM
Why?
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: JayT on January 10, 2010, 01:26:18 AM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on January 10, 2010, 12:44:48 AM
Why?

Quote from: capcadetwilliamsI have a list of catalogs. Let me  know if your interrested in what catalogs I have? The list changes Monday through Satarday.

Your grammar is getting better, but I don't understand 'the list changes Monday through Saturday.'

Thanks for the offer through.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Hoorah on January 10, 2010, 04:11:21 PM
The list of catalogs grows Monday Through Satarday.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Flying Pig on January 10, 2010, 06:48:39 PM
Dont be a geardo.
There are very few inexpensive items that a cadet would actually need.  I work with full time SAR deputies who perform ALL aspects of SAR. From the searching to the rescuing in some of the most inhospitable terrain in the US.  They really dont carry a lot of equipment unless its winter.  Then I see volunteers show up looking like an Infantry Company ready for the Normandy invasion with the price tags still stuck to their gear.

If your really into that stuff, I saw in your profile that your about 17yrs old?  Is there anything preventing you from possibly joining the military and attempting to get into SAR.  I think for cadets, sometimes getting away from CAP after their cadet life is over is a good thing.
I can guarantee your probably not going to find the level of SAR you are looking for in CAP.  There are plenty of areas you can be involved in without being a PJ.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: JayT on January 10, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on January 10, 2010, 04:11:21 PM
The list of catalogs grows Monday Through Satarday.

How does a list grow unless you're adding to it?
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Mustang on January 27, 2010, 09:50:27 AM
Some of you "adults" need to check yourselves. Senior member officers pouncing on a cadet one-striper such as some of you did is beyond pathetic. Is your sense of self-worth so tentative that you are compelled to read a new cadet member the riot act so publicly?  Get over yourselves already.
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: DC on January 27, 2010, 01:50:39 PM
Quote from: Mustang on January 27, 2010, 09:50:27 AM
Some of you "adults" need to check yourselves. Senior member officers pouncing on a cadet one-striper such as some of you did is beyond pathetic. Is your sense of self-worth so tentative that you are compelled to read a new cadet member the riot act so publicly?  Get over yourselves already.
capcadetwilliams isn't new, he has been around this board for over a year now, and claims to have been in CAP for around two. 310 posts and 70 threads started are enough to get an idea of what constitutes a meaningful post...
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: Bobble on January 28, 2010, 07:51:02 PM
Quote from: Mustang on January 27, 2010, 09:50:27 AM
Some of you "adults" need to check yourselves. Senior member officers pouncing on a cadet one-striper such as some of you did is beyond pathetic. Is your sense of self-worth so tentative that you are compelled to read a new cadet member the riot act so publicly?  Get over yourselves already.

Sort of a broad brush-stroke approach there, that whole"...you 'Adults'..."  thing, but I truly don't see the "pouncing" you speak of, except for maybe Pumbaa's 'Monitor out the window' post.  In the main, constructive criticism in each response for someone who seems to have noted difficulty in taking same to heart and keyboard.

Speaking for myself, I'm sort of starting to groove on CCW's posting brevity and almost Zen-like/mystical phrasing and structure (or lack thereof).  I almost want to go and write some CAP haiku's.

Quote from: capcadetwilliams on January 10, 2010, 12:44:01 AM
Why.

Quote from: capcadetwilliams on January 10, 2010, 12:44:48 AM
Why?

Why not?

By the way, just out of curiousity, would you be the same Mustang commenting over at Phib's place?
Title: Re: SAR Catalogs
Post by: SarDragon on January 29, 2010, 02:46:07 AM
This thread has gone seriously astray, but I will attempt to provide some additional insight into the most recent issue.

As noted, Mr Williams is not a new poster. Is his "Why?" a Zen why, or a clueless why? Sadly, I think the latter. He has been given guidance on many occasions, both publicly and by PM, and has neither responded nor apparently paid attention in many cases. It's frustrating.

YMMV.