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Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: Walkman on October 29, 2009, 07:00:49 AM

Title: Situation normal, more confusion
Post by: Walkman on October 29, 2009, 07:00:49 AM
OK, so I was enrolled in the operations track and made Ops O tonight. No one in recent memory has had this duty, so we're all learning as we go. As I was going through the tech rating reqs for Ops, I read this:

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3) Complete technician rating requirements for emergency services, CAPP 210 and ECI course 2130D, Introduction to Emergency Services
4) Complete technician rating requirements for Flight Operations Officer, CAPP 210 and Standardization/Evaluation, CAPP 212

If I'm reading this correctly, to get the Tech rating in Ops, I have to get 3 other tech ratings first. Is that correct? If so, then I've made a mistake, as I can't get the tech rating in Flight Operations Officer or Stan/Eval, since I'm not a pilot.

<rant>
There is just so much joy from trying to build an ES program out of nothing where nobody is available to mentor. For every step forward, there's two steps back it seems. </rant>
Title: Re: Situation normal, more confusion
Post by: Short Field on October 29, 2009, 07:57:54 AM
You got it correct.  Tech in ES, Flt Ops, and Stand Eval.
Title: Re: Situation normal, more confusion
Post by: Walkman on October 30, 2009, 01:00:38 PM
Quote from: Short Field on October 29, 2009, 07:57:54 AM
You got it correct.  Tech in ES, Flt Ops, and Stand Eval.

And am I correct in my reading that for Flt O and Stan/Eval one must be a pilot?
Title: Re: Situation normal, more confusion
Post by: lordmonar on October 30, 2009, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: Walkman on October 30, 2009, 01:00:38 PM
Quote from: Short Field on October 29, 2009, 07:57:54 AM
You got it correct.  Tech in ES, Flt Ops, and Stand Eval.

And am I correct in my reading that for Flt O and Stan/Eval one must be a pilot?

Yes
Quote from: CAPP 210 Para 3a(2)Must meet minimum requirements of a CAP pilot as described in CAPR 60-1
Title: Re: Situation normal, more confusion
Post by: Short Field on October 30, 2009, 05:48:02 PM
Stan/Eval also requires you be a Certified Flight Instructor.  Region CC can waive this if no other CFI is available.
Title: Re: Situation normal, more confusion
Post by: RiverAux on October 30, 2009, 07:15:08 PM
I know several people who thought all you had to do was be an Ops officer and hadn't completed the other stuff. 
Title: Re: Situation normal, more confusion
Post by: Nolan Teel on October 30, 2009, 07:21:11 PM
I just completed Master in Operations in August.  Took a long time but very rewarding!  I belive one of the hardest tracks to track in. 
Title: Re: Situation normal, more confusion
Post by: Short Field on October 31, 2009, 12:44:06 AM
Quote from: RiverAux on October 30, 2009, 07:15:08 PM
I know several people who thought all you had to do was be an Ops officer and hadn't completed the other stuff.

And their squadron commander signed them off since he hadn't read the regs either..   :D
Title: Re: Situation normal, more confusion
Post by: RiverAux on October 31, 2009, 01:08:25 AM
Pretty much.  I believe that once this was pointed out to them they went back and got the other quals.