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Title: Optional patch for breast of black A-2 leather jacket?
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on October 06, 2009, 09:03:10 PM
My squadron has designed its own crest, in the traditional AF shield-shape.  Is this cleared for the breast of the black A-2 jacket?  I think that wing/region ones are allowed, but I'm not sure about this.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Optional patch for breast of black A-2 leather jacket?
Post by: Eclipse on October 06, 2009, 09:10:57 PM
Quote from: CyBorg on October 06, 2009, 09:03:10 PM
My squadron has designed its own crest, in the traditional AF shield-shape.  Is this cleared for the breast of the black A-2 jacket?  I think that wing/region ones are allowed, but I'm not sure about this.  Thank you.

No - the only insignia allowed is the CAP MAJCOM Shield.
Title: Re: Optional patch for breast of black A-2 leather jacket?
Post by: SilverEagle2 on October 06, 2009, 09:12:04 PM
No, only the CAP Command Patch is authorized.

Quotea. Black Leather Jacket. Effective 15 March 2006, a black leather jacket with
side entry and patch pockets similar in style to the A-2 jacket was approved for wear by
CAP senior members with the aviator shirt combinations, utility uniform, CAP flight suit
or CAP polo shirt with gray slacks. The CAP Command Patch will be worn on the right
breast with the black leather name patch on the left breast pocket. This jacket may not
be worn with any of the AF-style uniforms. Effective 29 June 2006, the leather name
patch worn on this jacket is changed to a black leather name tag with a brown inset.
Title: Re: Optional patch for breast of black A-2 leather jacket?
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on October 06, 2009, 09:15:40 PM
OK.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Optional patch for breast of black A-2 leather jacket?
Post by: alamrcn on October 08, 2009, 04:03:34 PM
How much do you want to wear it on the A-2?

If it was the ONLY patch on the coat, it wouldn't be a uniform coat - but a civilian coat and could be worn anytime when not in uniform. However, in Northern wings like mine, a civilian winter coat worn over a uniform is authorized in a 39-1 suppliment for the purpose of safety. I suppose the A-2 is warm enough for winter use.

This would be like if you screen printed the emblem on a t-shirt for volleyball, or embroidered it onto a polo shirt for "off-duty" use at a CAP activity.

I know the couch lawyers are going to say your authorized squadron patch is property of Civil Air Patrol and to be used in an official capacity only.... BUT COME ON!
Title: Re: Optional patch for breast of black A-2 leather jacket?
Post by: lordmonar on October 08, 2009, 07:01:34 PM
If you really wanted to wear it....you could always put a recommendation up to the NB to authorise other patches.

That would be better then going the "this is a civilian jacket" route IMHO.

Title: Re: Optional patch for breast of black A-2 leather jacket?
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on October 08, 2009, 07:56:45 PM
It's not that big of a deal.

If regs say MAJCOM shield, MAJCOM shield it is.  I can wear the Squadron crest on my BBDU's.  It certainly isn't worth ticking someone who knows more about uniform regs than I do.

In any case, both it and my black/brown wings nameplate are going to be Velcro'd on the A-2, so if I want to wear it somewhere not CAP-related, I can take them both off and tuck them in a pocket.

I'm up in Great Lakes Region, so we most definitely know winter up here.  My "normal" jacket is a leather jacket modelled after Erich Hartmann's Luftwaffe flight jacket (no insignia), and it usually does the trick.