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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: jb512 on March 05, 2009, 12:11:58 AM

Title: C-5 Pics
Post by: jb512 on March 05, 2009, 12:11:58 AM
For anyone who might possibly be interested, here are some pics from inside the C-5.  I'm like a kid with a new toy.
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: jb512 on March 05, 2009, 12:18:10 AM
Couple more..
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Post by: PHall on March 05, 2009, 01:39:34 AM
You sure can tell that's a "schoolhouse" airplane. That cargo compartment is so nice and clean! ;D
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Post by: Strick on March 05, 2009, 01:42:31 AM
Great pics 8)
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Post by: flyguy06 on March 05, 2009, 04:12:43 AM
Are you a crewmember?
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Post by: jb512 on March 05, 2009, 04:51:47 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: Gunner C on March 05, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
Quote from: PHall on March 05, 2009, 01:39:34 AM
You sure can tell that's a "schoolhouse" airplane. That cargo compartment is so nice and clean! ;D
I was about to say . . . That's the cleanest airlifter I've ever seen.

I didn't look like it was leaking anything, either. 

Extra credit trivia question:

Anyone know what they call a USAF aircraft that doesn't leak?
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: Pylon on March 05, 2009, 09:09:02 PM
Quote from: Gunner C on March 05, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
Extra credit trivia question:

Anyone know what they call a USAF aircraft that doesn't leak?

Still in production?  Mythical? 
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: SJFedor on March 05, 2009, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: Gunner C on March 05, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
Anyone know what they call a USAF aircraft that doesn't leak?

Retired to the boneyard? Out of fuel and hydraulic fluid?
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: Gunner C on March 05, 2009, 09:21:24 PM
Quote from: SJFedor on March 05, 2009, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: Gunner C on March 05, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
Anyone know what they call a USAF aircraft that doesn't leak?

Retired to the boneyard? Out of fuel and hydraulic fluid?
Empty  ;D
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: PHall on March 06, 2009, 01:53:33 AM
On the C-141. it was very easy to figure out which passengers had ticked off the Load, they were the ones seated below the flap pack.

The flap pack is the hydraulic drive motor that raises and lowers the flaps, and usually leaks some hydraulic fluid in the process!
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: Gunner C on March 06, 2009, 06:04:51 PM
I should have been a nicer jumpmaster.  ;D
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Post by: Flying Pig on March 06, 2009, 06:22:53 PM
Holy Cow.  You could put bleachers in that cockpit and run your PFT in the cargo bay.  Does the C-5 still have Flight Engineers or Navigators?  I saw the 3rd seat with the table in the photo.
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: PHall on March 07, 2009, 02:11:44 AM
The C-5 still has Flight Engineer's and can carry a Navigator.
The Nav's are usually used when the aircraft is going to fly above 60 degrees North/South since the rapid magnetic variations near the poles do weird things to the Nav systems.
They carry the Nav so they can use "Grid Navigation" instead.
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: jb512 on March 09, 2009, 04:26:01 AM
Sorry, I was lucky enough to take a break for the weekend..

It may look clean in the photos, but step off the grip tape on the floor and you'll end up sliding to where you're going.  We are actually using AFRC aircraft that fly regular missions and they just give us one that's not being used at the moment when we go out to mess around.

From what I understand we don't use Navs anymore because of all the GPS and other nav equipment that runs the world these days, but I could be wrong... not the first time.   ;)

There's a ton of room in the thing and I forgot to take pics of the seating for 75 up in the troop compartment on top of that.  Which, by the way, I didn't realize until not too long ago that I have to play flight attendant as well...

I've heard stories of the seated skateboard races down the cargo floor during takeoff, or the zip line race during takeoff where one load bounced off the aft pressure door when he failed to stop in time... good stuff.  Basketball and arena football seem like they'd work in there too.
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: bosshawk on March 09, 2009, 04:49:39 AM
As a military retiree, I have privileges like riding on AF aircraft on a "space available" basis.  In 1996, I flew on a C-5A from Travis, via Elemendorf and Yokota to Kunsan, Korea.  I was able to talk my way into riding up on the flight deck for the entire trip.  Since the crew did not include a Navigator, I made all the takeoffs and landing riding in the Navigators station: right behind the aircraft commander.  It was a most interesting ride and one that I won't forget ever.  The crew compartment also includes a bunk room, a lounge/kitchen and a courier compartment that has something like 15-18 airline-type seats.  It is almost big enough to play a half court game of basketball up there.

Down below, no moving around in the cargo compartment: we were full from the front ramp to the rear ramp with cargo.  The troop compartment was also full, mostly with retirees traveling to either Alaska, Japan or Korea.

Just for fun, our takeoff weight at Elmendorf was about 714,000 lbs, if I remember correctly.  slightly more than my Bonanza!!!!

The C-141 that I rode on from Korea to Okinawa looked tiny by comparison: it really wasn't .
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: PHall on March 09, 2009, 05:12:08 AM
You want something to do on an empty airplane, go pallet surfing!

Place pallet in pallet position 2, get a running start and jump on the pallet and see how many positions you can go. First one to the ramp wins!

In-flight you just reverse the above, i.e. start at the ramp since the aircraft usually flies nose up approx 1 to 3 degrees and making the ramp is a no-brainer. Just make sure the pallet buffer is installed so you don't hit the front wall with a pallet!

We used to do this on the C-141 and the KC-10 and I've heard of it being done on the C-130.
But at only 6 pallet positions, I don't count the 130 as being much of a challenge.
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: bosshawk on March 09, 2009, 05:21:46 AM
sounds like you guys had too much time on your hands and too much imagination.
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: jb512 on March 09, 2009, 05:49:08 AM
Quote from: PHall on March 09, 2009, 05:12:08 AM
You want something to do on an empty airplane, go pallet surfing!

Place pallet in pallet position 2, get a running start and jump on the pallet and see how many positions you can go. First one to the ramp wins!

In-flight you just reverse the above, i.e. start at the ramp since the aircraft usually flies nose up approx 1 to 3 degrees and making the ramp is a no-brainer. Just make sure the pallet buffer is installed so you don't hit the front wall with a pallet!

We used to do this on the C-141 and the KC-10 and I've heard of it being done on the C-130.
But at only 6 pallet positions, I don't count the 130 as being much of a challenge.

I'll report back and let you know how I did...  ;D
Title: Re: C-5 Pics
Post by: PHall on March 10, 2009, 04:43:01 AM
Quote from: bosshawk on March 09, 2009, 05:21:46 AM
sounds like you guys had too much time on your hands and too much imagination.

Empty airplane on a repositioning leg. ;D