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Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: flyguy06 on February 25, 2009, 05:56:04 AM

Title: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: flyguy06 on February 25, 2009, 05:56:04 AM
This may sound like an obvious question but I really have no idea so I thought I would ask.

I am interested in furthering my ES quals. I want to be an AOBD and Planning Sec Chief and eventually a IC.
We only have so many SAREx'sin my Wing, It would take years to get to the IC level.

Question: Can I go to other Wings and get signed off?
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: es_g0d on February 25, 2009, 06:02:38 AM
I have transferred wings many times due to my job, and have found no troubles with one state accepting another's qualifications.  I know personally of some exceptions (contact me privately on that) but generally there is a good attitude.

If you want good and concentrated training, may I suggest NESA?  You'll find good quality training there, and I believe a good number of your wing-mates attend (i.e., easy to bum a ride!)
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: Eclipse on February 25, 2009, 06:14:10 AM
+1 - best way to jump start things...
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: RiverAux on February 25, 2009, 07:35:11 PM
Yeah, if you want to get there in anything less than 5 years, NESA is probably your best bet if you're in a wing without much action. 
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: lordmonar on February 25, 2009, 07:38:03 PM
I would make sure both your squadron commander and wing ES guy know what you are doing and why.

Also you need to check with you wing and region to make sure there are no extra reporting procedures.....RMR requires regional approval for anyone leaving the region and wing approval for crossing state boundries.  NVWG is in the process of doing the same.

While I don't think anyone would have a problem make sure you cross your T's and dot your I's.
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: DG on February 25, 2009, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: es_g0d on February 25, 2009, 06:02:38 AM


If you want good and concentrated training, may I suggest NESA?  You'll find good quality training there, and I believe a good number of your wing-mates attend (i.e., easy to bum a ride!)

Scott,

Flyguy06 was in our NESA MAS last summer.

So Flyguy06, you know about the IC course(s) at NESA, right?

We saw them at graduation.

So Scott, Is it warming up yet, up there?
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: es_g0d on February 26, 2009, 06:42:28 AM
Oh no, DG, if you are who I think you are, I'm SOOOOO making fun of you.  I think your secret CAP-talk name ought to be Glass Cutter ... right?

Agreed, the ICS school is a fine program.

Fairbanks, Alaska today was officially warmer than Northern Minnesota.  We're getting 10-15 minutes more daylight PER DAY and are now up to about 10.5 hours.  (Shortest day is something like 4 hours).  It was 28 above by my thermometer; sunny and blue sky.  How's that for a PIREP?
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: N Harmon on February 26, 2009, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: flyguy06 on February 25, 2009, 05:56:04 AMWe only have so many SAREx'sin my Wing, It would take years to get to the IC level.

It's supposed to take years. So many people rush to get the next level of qualification they don't spend any time becoming proficient or experienced in the qualifications they already have. I will tell you, as a ground pounder it's nice to have mission support people who have BTDT and not just for a couple of sorties.

So, don't sell yourself short. It should take years to become an IC because what you're doing is becoming an expert in aeronautical search and rescue.
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: SJFedor on February 26, 2009, 02:13:21 PM
Quote from: es_g0d on February 26, 2009, 06:42:28 AM
Oh no, DG, if you are who I think you are, I'm SOOOOO making fun of you.  I think your secret CAP-talk name ought to be Glass Cutter ... right?

Hahaha Scott! That's what you were singing in the parking lot that night!

And no, that's not him, but it is another one of "us".

Quote from: flyguy06 on February 25, 2009, 05:56:04 AM
This may sound like an obvious question but I really have no idea so I thought I would ask.

I am interested in furthering my ES quals. I want to be an AOBD and Planning Sec Chief and eventually a IC.
We only have so many SAREx'sin my Wing, It would take years to get to the IC level.

Question: Can I go to other Wings and get signed off?

That depends on your Wing, but there shouldn't be a problem. I know we've sent a few TN ground teams across the line to GA to train, and had a few of the north GA teams come play with us before.

And you'd always be welcome at any exercise I'm working  ;D
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: Angus on February 26, 2009, 04:36:53 PM
I definately recommend doing NESA for anyone that wants it.  I was there for two weeks last year and loved every minute of it.  You won't get better instructors any where.  I know two of the people on the ground side literaly wrote the book for our ground side.  The instructors at MAS are top notch... and a lot of fun too.   
Title: Re: Getting ES Qualed
Post by: DG on February 26, 2009, 05:22:15 PM
Quote from: es_g0d on February 26, 2009, 06:42:28 AMI think your secret CAP-talk name ought to be Glass Cutter ... right?

There is one and only one Glass Cutter.

And I ain't he!