http://www.statejournal.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=51481
I don't think you can top having the President of the United States at your Spaatz presentation. It's got to all pretty much be downhill from there! :D
That is very cool. I hope the cadets and senior members who spoke with the President gave him a good idea of what it is CAP does and who we are.
That is pure awesome right there! You can't top that one!
There's your Volunteer cover story right there! Pretty cool, and I'm very happy for the cadets. Perhaps the photo and story will be added to our history archives among the likes of these...
(http://www.caphistory.org/galleries/CAP%20categories/Post-War/Cadet%20Programs/images/CAP_117.jpg)
(http://www.caphistory.org/galleries/CAP%20categories/Post-War/Cadet%20Programs/images/CAP_120.jpg)
(http://www.caphistory.org/galleries/CAP%20categories/Post-War/Cadet%20Programs/images/CAP_122.jpg)
Seems NHQ was well aware of it. On the front page of http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/
From the article (my emphasis added):
Quote"Meeting the president was one of the greatest and most memorable moments in my life," said Hill. "Winning the prestigious Spaatz award is one of my greatest accomplishments ...
:-[ :-X
Sounds like it was a nice experience for him though. So that's cool. Meeting a President, let alone have one appear at an award ceremony on your behalf, would always be an honor.
Quote from: Lancer on February 06, 2009, 01:23:52 AM
Seems NHQ was well aware of it. On the front page of http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/
And the headline...ugh. This from the national PAO.
Joe Biden is a member. Although, he said he couldnt really be active because he wasnt a pilot? ??? I think it was an honorary membership. He was interviewed in the Volunteer a couple years ago.
Based on this article, I guess we can rest assured that any lapses in customs and courtesies that may have occured during the ceremony probably went on noticed by the President:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D965NEH00&show_article=1
QuoteOn departing from the White House to Andrews Air Force Base, Obama broke from tradition as he boarded Marine One, the presidential helicopter, on the South Lawn. He seemed to stun the marine standing at attention by reaching out to shake his hand. The marine obliged, shaking the president's hand before returning to a steady salute.
^Yeah, but once again, the Commander in Chief is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF. He is at the top of the customs and courtesy chain and is a civilian. As far as saluting, shaking hands or completely ignoring everyone is his prerogative. I would prefer he returns the salute then shakes hands, but oh well. If I were President, Id probably have a querk or two myself.
I imagine all of this is a lot to swallow....getting on Marine One for the first time to go board Air Force One for the fist time as the President would send anyones head spinning.
It is great to see the visibility that the president gave CAP by meeting with this cadet. This type of press seems like it would help with recruiting and morale.
Quote from: A.Member on February 06, 2009, 05:19:17 PM
Based on this article, I guess we can rest assured that any lapses in customs and courtesies that may have occured during the ceremony probably went on noticed by the President:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D965NEH00&show_article=1
QuoteOn departing from the White House to Andrews Air Force Base, Obama broke from tradition as he boarded Marine One, the presidential helicopter, on the South Lawn. He seemed to stun the marine standing at attention by reaching out to shake his hand. The marine obliged, shaking the president's hand before returning to a steady salute.
He is the boss. It's his choice to do what he wants. If he'd rather shake hands than salute, I have no problem with that.
Not sure why you posted this. The POTUS is already involved in recognizing our organization--just a month into his term--and you seem to want to diminish that fact.
Well, you know those Marines....always eating that Marine candy.....it'd confuse me too! Oh well. We have a 4 star coming to do awards next week at our squadron and for the last year I've been calling him General and now he wants the cadets and SMs to call him Mr.....I know I'm gonna forget that too.....
Peace.
Quote from: A.Member on February 06, 2009, 03:14:44 AM
And the headline...ugh. This from the national PAO.
Just out of curiosity, what headline would you prefer (given, of course, the two- or three-line space constraint)?
Quote from: Outlandish on February 09, 2009, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: A.Member on February 06, 2009, 03:14:44 AM
And the headline...ugh. This from the national PAO.
Just out of curiosity, what headline would you prefer (given, of course, the two- or three-line space constraint)?
How about beginning with: "The President..." - or - "President Obama..."
NOT "Obama..."
Quote from: A.Member on February 09, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Outlandish on February 09, 2009, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: A.Member on February 06, 2009, 03:14:44 AM
And the headline...ugh. This from the national PAO.
Just out of curiosity, what headline would you prefer (given, of course, the two- or three-line space constraint)?
How about beginning with: "The President..." - or - "President Obama..."
NOT "Obama..."
Headlines are intended to be very short and punchy. They're not necessarily going to include his title. (Unless you are reading the NY Daily News and it starts "Prez...") Note that the C&C article linked in this thread starts the same way.
Quote from: Rotorhead on February 09, 2009, 11:43:59 PM
Quote from: A.Member on February 09, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Outlandish on February 09, 2009, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: A.Member on February 06, 2009, 03:14:44 AM
And the headline...ugh. This from the national PAO.
Just out of curiosity, what headline would you prefer (given, of course, the two- or three-line space constraint)?
How about beginning with: "The President..." - or - "President Obama..."
NOT "Obama..."
Headlines are intended to be very short and punchy. They're not necessarily going to include his title. (Unless you are reading the NY Daily News and it starts "Prez...") Note that the C&C article linked in this thread starts the same way.
Doesn't make it right. We don't have the opportunity to write these types of headlines that often. The least we could do is get it right. He's not our "buddy". We should use titles appropriately. A PAO, especially at the National level, should know this.
Quote from: A.Member on February 09, 2009, 11:55:03 PM
Quote from: Rotorhead on February 09, 2009, 11:43:59 PM
Quote from: A.Member on February 09, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Outlandish on February 09, 2009, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: A.Member on February 06, 2009, 03:14:44 AM
And the headline...ugh. This from the national PAO.
Just out of curiosity, what headline would you prefer (given, of course, the two- or three-line space constraint)?
How about beginning with: "The President..." - or - "President Obama..."
NOT "Obama..."
Headlines are intended to be very short and punchy. They're not necessarily going to include his title. (Unless you are reading the NY Daily News and it starts "Prez...") Note that the C&C article linked in this thread starts the same way.
Doesn't make it right. We don't have the opportunity to write these types of headlines that often. The least we could do is get it right. He's not our "buddy". We should use titles appropriately. A PAO, especially at the National level, should know this.
The use of a well-known public official's last name to identify him in a headline does not imply that he is the "buddy" of the writer.
They did "get it right." It got the point across in a minimum number of words. The task was accomplsihed.
Quote from: A.Member on February 09, 2009, 11:55:03 PM
Quote from: Rotorhead on February 09, 2009, 11:43:59 PM
Quote from: A.Member on February 09, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Outlandish on February 09, 2009, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: A.Member on February 06, 2009, 03:14:44 AM
And the headline...ugh. This from the national PAO.
Just out of curiosity, what headline would you prefer (given, of course, the two- or three-line space constraint)?
How about beginning with: "The President..." - or - "President Obama..."
NOT "Obama..."
Headlines are intended to be very short and punchy. They're not necessarily going to include his title. (Unless you are reading the NY Daily News and it starts "Prez...") Note that the C&C article linked in this thread starts the same way.
Doesn't make it right. We don't have the opportunity to write these types of headlines that often. The least we could do is get it right. He's not our "buddy". We should use titles appropriately. A PAO, especially at the National level, should know this.
After this new bailout bill, I'm hearing him called worse.
It's much better than some treated his predecessor.
Topic or lock.
Quote from: Pylon on February 10, 2009, 02:54:18 AM
Topic or lock.
I agree...in fact, I think the topic should be locked. What began as a great public affairs opportunity became a CAPTALK free-for-all. Just enjoy the high profile with out the bickering.
Quote from: Rotorhead on February 10, 2009, 12:58:02 AM
They did "get it right." It got the point across in a minimum number of words. The task was accomplsihed.
Opinions differ. They did not get it right. The President should be referred to as just that...or President Obama or Mr. President.
It's not only about using the minimum number of words. Use of the last name in the headline only does convey the proper respect for the office. If a PAO can't get that right, they should consider another position, IMO.
Lock.