Do any wings have a portable fueling system that they can use for refueling CAP aircraft with 100LL? In the event we have to relocate to a rural site and local fuel is not available. We are trying to think of a system that can transport 400-1000 gl of fuel so we can operate our own fueling system.
CAWG certainly has no such animal. We operate 27 corporate aircraft and at missions, we use a lot of fuel. That said, we set up mission bases at airfields where there are CAP comms, adequate runways and ramps and a decent shot at overnight accommodations. That normally means that the airfield has fuel. We may, if we have time, warn the fuel folks that we are going to need a lot of 100LL, so that they can take steps to get more fuel.
I don't know what state you are in, but you are looking at a potential hornets nest to comply with state laws on fuel trucks or fuel tanks. In this state, it isn't worth the time, money and aggrivation to even try it.
^ ditto, the dangers far outweigh the advantages. Barring Armageddon there's plenty of gas in our AOR.
You'd need a professional fuel truck to move that much gas.
It would be easier and safer to get a fuel company to provide the fuel and truck. There are a number of them out there and remote fuel operations is a standard matter to them. If you can't find one, contact a helicopter crane service - they almost always run remote fuel operations.
How about a KC-172 for air to air refueling?
Quote from: Rob Goodman on December 12, 2008, 02:53:23 AM
How about a KC-172 for air to air refueling?
Won't work, I haven't seen a CAP Mission Pilot yet that could hold Pre-Contact, Stable.
Much less come in for a contact!
^^^^
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:clap:
Very good, Sir
Quote from: Rob Goodman on December 12, 2008, 02:53:23 AM
How about a KC-172 for air to air refueling?
Way, waaaaayyyyy ahead of you.
I've been working on this since about 8:00
Full Size - http://resdon111.googlepages.com/CAPKC135.jpg
(http://resdon111.googlepages.com/CAPKC135donwsize.jpg)
Quote from: Rob Goodman on December 12, 2008, 02:53:23 AM
How about a KC-172 for air to air refueling?
Discounting pilot skills, where do you put the IFR probe? Most refueling points on receiving a/c are at, or very close to, the centerline. On CAP fleet a/c, that spinny thing in the front would be in the way. :o
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on December 12, 2008, 04:55:07 AM
Quote from: Rob Goodman on December 12, 2008, 02:53:23 AM
How about a KC-172 for air to air refueling?
Way, waaaaayyyyy ahead of you.
I've been working on this since about 8:00
Full Size - http://resdon111.googlepages.com/CAPKC135.jpg
Someone has was waaaaayyyyy too much time on their hands. :D
I won't deny it. Just trying to give Tedda a run for his money. ;)
Quote from: SarDragon on December 12, 2008, 04:56:05 AM
Quote from: Rob Goodman on December 12, 2008, 02:53:23 AM
How about a KC-172 for air to air refueling?
Discounting pilot skills, where do you put the IFR probe? Most refueling points on receiving a/c are at, or very close to, the centerline. On CAP fleet a/c, that spinny thing in the front would be in the way. :o
Easy, between the wings above the crew's heads.
Of course, there that little issue with stall speed of the tanker and top speed of the C172...
WHAT???
CAP doesn't believe in contracting with Airbus for airtankers >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Quote from: heliodoc on December 12, 2008, 06:02:22 AM
WHAT???
CAP doesn't believe in contracting with Airbus for airtankers >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Nope, Omega got the contract.
Quote from: arajca on December 12, 2008, 05:58:23 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on December 12, 2008, 04:56:05 AM
Quote from: Rob Goodman on December 12, 2008, 02:53:23 AM
How about a KC-172 for air to air refueling?
Discounting pilot skills, where do you put the IFR probe? Most refueling points on receiving a/c are at, or very close to, the centerline. On CAP fleet a/c, that spinny thing in the front would be in the way. :o
Easy, between the wings above the crew's heads.
Of course, there that little issue with stall speed of the tanker and top speed of the C172...
Maybe makes it hard to see? And it still puts the basket perilously close to the propellor.
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on December 12, 2008, 04:55:07 AM
Quote from: Rob Goodman on December 12, 2008, 02:53:23 AM
How about a KC-172 for air to air refueling?
Way, waaaaayyyyy ahead of you.
I've been working on this since about 8:00
Full Size - http://resdon111.googlepages.com/CAPKC135.jpg
(http://resdon111.googlepages.com/CAPKC135donwsize.jpg)
Have you been to this site.......
www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on December 12, 2008, 04:55:07 AM
Full Size - http://resdon111.googlepages.com/CAPKC135.jpg
Now THAT should have been the cover of the new issue of Volunteer! >:D
I suppose you could always get one of these and put it in the wing 4X4: http://www.vanado.com/details.asp?prodid=7003&cat=56
100 Gallon Refueling Tank. Goes right in the back of a pickup truck and requires no special permits or licenses required to use it.
Quote from: jimmydeanno on December 12, 2008, 01:36:40 PM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on December 12, 2008, 04:55:07 AM
Full Size - http://resdon111.googlepages.com/CAPKC135.jpg
Now THAT should have been the cover of the new issue of Volunteer! >:D
No, this would be the cover for the Volunteer...
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh278/sargrunt/funny.jpg)
Nice
Who knew Denzel was in CAP?
(http://chezarchange.free.fr/dotclear/images/cinema/_man_on_fire.jpg)
Quote from: Sqn72DO on December 12, 2008, 03:54:07 PM
No, this would be the cover for the Volunteer...
Do you know how hard it is to tell your co-workers that you're laughing to the point of tears about nothing... ;D Thanks for that!
Quote from: Sqn72DO on December 12, 2008, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on December 12, 2008, 01:36:40 PM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on December 12, 2008, 04:55:07 AM
Full Size - http://resdon111.googlepages.com/CAPKC135.jpg
Now THAT should have been the cover of the new issue of Volunteer! >:D
No, this would be the cover for the Volunteer...
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh278/sargrunt/funny.jpg)
Missed it the first time, awesome!