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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: RADIOMAN015 on September 28, 2008, 05:19:18 PM

Title: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: RADIOMAN015 on September 28, 2008, 05:19:18 PM
Interesting to look at the Board of Governors approval of the CAP budget for FY 09  http://level2.cap.gov/documents/2008_Jun_BoG_Atch.pdf  What seems to be missing out of that budget is the salaries & benefits as well as operational costs of the aircraft etc, which I would assume is paid by the AF.  So any idea IF this (AF & other reimbursement) is available somewhere on the web to get a better idea as to the total budget?

Unless I've missed something, I noted that CAP doesn't release its' annual Filing with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS Form 990 "Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax") which for CY 2008 is a new revised form.  This gives a lot of detail on a non profit organization's funding & uses of that funding  See http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=185561,00.html     
Perhaps someone in the forum has more information?
RADIOMAN
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: RiverAux on September 28, 2008, 07:08:28 PM
Recent 990s for the corp are available on guidestar. 
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: Eclipse on September 28, 2008, 07:25:39 PM
I would imagine they are on file at NHQ, and/or available via a FOIA request.

I can't imagine more intriguing reading.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: Major Carrales on September 28, 2008, 08:30:10 PM
Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on September 28, 2008, 05:19:18 PM
Interesting to look at the Board of Governors approval of the CAP budget for FY 09  http://level2.cap.gov/documents/2008_Jun_BoG_Atch.pdf  What seems to be missing out of that budget is the salaries & benefits as well as operational costs of the aircraft etc, which I would assume is paid by the AF.  So any idea IF this (AF & other reimbursement) is available somewhere on the web to get a better idea as to the total budget?

I would think that the USAF would ask for that as a line-item in their budget.  I might also think that to ask for said funding for CAP might be a duplication of funds.  Anyone know better about this?
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: RRLE on September 28, 2008, 08:51:54 PM
For the IRS reports get a free registration at GuideStar (http://www.guidestar.org/). I think the latest year available is 2006.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: FW on September 28, 2008, 09:36:25 PM
Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on September 28, 2008, 05:19:18 PM
Interesting to look at the Board of Governors approval of the CAP budget for FY 09  http://level2.cap.gov/documents/2008_Jun_BoG_Atch.pdf  What seems to be missing out of that budget is the salaries & benefits as well as operational costs of the aircraft etc, which I would assume is paid by the AF.  So any idea IF this (AF & other reimbursement) is available somewhere on the web to get a better idea as to the total budget

RADIOMAN

You only gave the link to the budget for the "Corporate funds"; income from dues, donations and non governmental grants.  The "Appropriated Budget"; funds from our government grant includes, the staff salaries, O&M of facilities, vehicles and aircraft.  You can get a copy of the detailed budgets from your wing/cc.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: Pylon on September 28, 2008, 10:08:15 PM
IRS Form 990 filings have to be produced upon request from any charity's main office.  You are supposed to be able to call National HQ and get the latest 990's emailed, faxed or mailed to you without much hassle.  They are indeed interesting reading.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: sardak on September 29, 2008, 03:17:31 AM
CAP is listed in the USAF budget in:
Air Force O&M Vol. I, FY09, page 847, (pdf search page 853) (http://www.saffm.hq.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-080204-070.pdf)
Funding supports compensation and benefits for key staff at regional, state, or territorial headquarters; readiness training; and some Air Force non-combat programs/missions conducted within CAP's eight geographic regions. These regions include 52 wings consisting of more than 1,700 groups, squadrons, and flights spread across the continental United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia. CAP also performs other missions on a fly for fee basis.

(in thousands of dollars)
FY07 Actual $25,107
FY08 Request $ 23,753 + $2,800 appn = $26,553 estimated
FY09 Request $ 24,445

CAP aircraft purchases are listed here:
Aircraft Procurement Volume I, FY09, (pdf search page 153) (http://www.saffm.hq.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-080204-081.pdf)

Mike
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: DNall on October 03, 2008, 06:50:26 PM
^that's in thousands of dollars by the way. So 24.445 million for FY09. That's the AF request. Add aircraft (major radio purchases like in recent years are also separate); add govt grants... then add that big number to the corp budget above... it varies considerably depending on how much stuff we're buying per year. Basically you're talking about between 30 & 40 million per year.

/off topic/ I'm watching that bailout stuff on the news. Thinking, man you know what CAP could do with just 1 billion. Holy crap that's a lot of money.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: KyCAP on October 04, 2008, 02:06:25 AM
Looking at this from information above:

23 new 182T in 2007
12 new 182T in 2008
5 new 182T in 2009

The fleet was something like 20% new last year I read, so looks like a significant slowdown in new aircraft purchasing.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: DNall on October 04, 2008, 02:42:01 AM
We're not buying all new aircraft, the buy is according to plan.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol FY 09 Budget & Public Release of IRS Information Filing?
Post by: KyCAP on October 04, 2008, 04:11:35 AM
What is the plan?