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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: JC004 on September 17, 2008, 12:06:36 PM

Title: September 17th
Post by: JC004 on September 17, 2008, 12:06:36 PM
(http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/images/constitution_thumb_295_dark_gray_bg.jpg)

Happy Constitution Day!

Now's a good time to brush up on your U.S. Constitution history and content.  Use it or loose it:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html

http://constitutioncenter.org/ConstitutionDay/Default.aspx
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: jimmydeanno on September 17, 2008, 12:17:02 PM
Woo hoo!  I love the Constitution!  I just wish more people would read it, like our legislators  >:D
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: ColonelJack on September 17, 2008, 02:35:21 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on September 17, 2008, 12:17:02 PM
Woo hoo!  I love the Constitution!  I just wish more people would read it, like our legislators  >:D

Or our Commander In Chief.

Jack
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: CadetProgramGuy on September 17, 2008, 02:40:28 PM
Colgan,

While you got the constitution out, see if there's a map on the back......
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: davedove on September 17, 2008, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on September 17, 2008, 02:40:28 PM
Colgan,

While you got the constitution out, see if there's a map on the back......

No, no, the map is on the Declaration. ;D
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: 0 on September 17, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
but you have to use something like  lemon juice and heat to bring out the cypher and then some cool glasses to see the map itself.
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: SilverEagle2 on September 17, 2008, 03:56:40 PM
I remember the date well.

I am the far right, front row Scout.

(http://www.meridianmagazine.com/exstories/images/BCMural%20(6).jpg)

The flag was dubbed the "Challenger Flag" as it was on the Challenger Shuttle when it exploded.

The event was the National Constitution 200th Anniversary Gala in Philadelphia.
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: Major Carrales on September 17, 2008, 05:25:55 PM
Yes, this is an important day that often goes with out the fanfare of Independence Day, it was a new idea for government and is the oldest functioning Constitution currently in use.

Many times copied, never duplicated.

George Washington, James Madison, and Ben Franklin must be very proud soles for that.

"A Republic...if we can keep it."
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: NIN on September 17, 2008, 06:35:38 PM
I prefer to celebrate my birthday on September 17th..  Its a whole lot more fun for me than looking at moldy paper. :)

Or the anniversary of Operation Market Garden, or the 100th anniversary of the death of the first man killed in an airplane crash, Lt Thomas Selfridge.

Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: alamrcn on September 17, 2008, 06:45:32 PM
QuoteOr the anniversary of Operation Market Garden, or the 100th anniversary of the death of the first man killed in an airplane crash, Lt Thomas Selfridge.

I'm taking away your Google privileges.

I didn't know there was an American Flag on-board the Challenger... and I can't believe it survived. Is there one taken on every shuttle mission?

Happy Constitution Day!
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: SilverEagle2 on September 17, 2008, 07:16:35 PM
QuoteI didn't know there was an American Flag on-board the Challenger... and I can't believe it survived. Is there one taken on every shuttle mission?

They take quite a few. This one was put on by the Scoutmaster who also was a department head at Falcon Air Station in Colorado Springs.

It flew over the US Capitol, then on the shuttle, then at this event during that week of the 200th anniversary, then at Arlington at the memorial for the 7 astronauts, then at the Air and Space Museum, then back at the US Capitol.

They found it at the bottom of the ocean still in the locker and sealed bag. Was completely un-touched. They returned it to our troop an all the scouts on that stage that earned Eagle carried it at their Eagle Court of Honor. I was the last. For a while it was on display at the Smithsonian.

It tours the country on occasions. Lot's of memories.

More on the story here: http://www.meridianmagazine.com/exstories/040519challenger.html (http://www.meridianmagazine.com/exstories/040519challenger.html)

Back to topic though....Happy Constitution Day to all that enjoy and defend its' principles.
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: NIN on September 17, 2008, 08:02:29 PM
Quote from: alamrcn on September 17, 2008, 06:45:32 PM
QuoteOr the anniversary of Operation Market Garden, or the 100th anniversary of the death of the first man killed in an airplane crash, Lt Thomas Selfridge.

I'm taking away your Google privileges.

Ha!  Nice try buddy, but....

a) I was a quiz-bowl weenie as a cadet, and Lt Thomas Selfridge was a valid answer to the quiz bowl question "Who was the first man killed in an airplane?"  (Aerospace '81, chapter 1, I believe). Since Selfridge ANGB is located about 10 miles from where I grew up, MI wing quiz bowls ALWAYS featured that question.   Knowing the date of his death was just icing on the cake.    So I knew the answer to that question well before Google.

b) I also knew that Market Garden kicked off on 17 Sept 1944 by seeing the movie "A Bridge Too Far" in the theater on its "first run" in 1977.  Again, well before Google.

My Google privs are still well intact!

Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: alamrcn on September 17, 2008, 08:53:31 PM
Quote(Aerospace '81, chapter 1, I believe)

Hmm... I was a victim of Horizon's Unlimited, and so I learned that an AH-64 is NOT a crop duster -- an actual question on the old Mitchell test! So should that ever come up in a knowledge bowl, now you know. Google on my friend!

Did you know that "Pennsylvania" was misspelled as "Pensylvania" on the U.S. Constitution?
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: Major Carrales on September 17, 2008, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: alamrcn on September 17, 2008, 08:53:31 PM

Did you know that "Pennsylvania" was misspelled as "Pensylvania" on the U.S. Constitution?

Not so, that was before established standard spelling, basically...anything went.
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: JC004 on September 17, 2008, 08:58:52 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on September 17, 2008, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: alamrcn on September 17, 2008, 08:53:31 PM

Did you know that "Pennsylvania" was misspelled as "Pensylvania" on the U.S. Constitution?

Not so, that was before established standard spelling, basically...anything went.

Right.  Things were a little disorganized then.  We didn't even have a constitution.   :)
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on September 17, 2008, 10:02:21 PM
The Iraqis have been struggling to develop their own constitution, so why don't we let them have ours?

After all, we're not using it, anyway.
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: ol'fido on September 17, 2008, 11:11:31 PM
Joined CAP September 17,1977.
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: flyerthom on September 18, 2008, 01:39:23 AM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on September 17, 2008, 10:02:21 PM
The Iraqis have been struggling to develop their own constitution, so why don't we let them have ours?

After all, we're not using it, anyway.


To the citizens of the United States of America
from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.


In light of your failure in recent years to nominate competent candidates for
President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of
the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look
up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.)


Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over
all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas, which she does not
fancy).


Your new Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, will appoint a Governor for America
without the need for further elections.


Both houses of Congress will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated
next year to determine whether any of you noticed.


To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules
are introduced with immediate effect:


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1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,'
'labour,' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without
skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix
'-ise.' Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to
acceptable levels. (Look up 'vocabulary').
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2. Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as
"like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of
communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft
know on your
behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the
reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of '-ize.'
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3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.
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4.You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or
therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that
you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting
grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a
therapist, then you're not ready to shoot grouse...
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5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more
dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you
wish
to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
----------------------
6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start
driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go
metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both
roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of
humour.
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7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling
gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.
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8. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are
not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are
properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and
dressed
not with catsup but with vinegar.
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9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer
at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer,
and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as
Lager. South African beer is also acceptable, as they are pound for pound the
greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are
also
part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands
will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold
without risk of further confusion.
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10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good
guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English
characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in 'Four Weddings
and a Funeral' was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a
cheese grater.
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11. You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of
proper football; you call it soccer. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be
allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but
does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar
body armour like a bunch of nancy boys).
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12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an
event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of
America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders,
your
error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the
South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.
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13. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.
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14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's
Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due
(backdated to 1776).
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15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers,
and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus
strawberries (with cream) when in season.


God Save the Queen!
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: jimmydeanno on September 18, 2008, 03:20:51 AM
Quote from: flyerthom on September 18, 2008, 01:39:23 AM
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over
all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas, which she does not
fancy).

I hope she would be assuming Matriarchal duties... >:D
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: Johnny Yuma on September 18, 2008, 04:16:58 AM
QuoteHer Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over
all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas, which she does not
fancy).

Good. We've already got one old broad running things here that we're trying to get rid of, we don't need another.

http://www.governor.ks.gov/

Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: Johnny Yuma on September 18, 2008, 04:22:56 AM
In all seriousness:

Go to heritage.org, order up a boatload of pocket constitutions and dole them out to every CAP member in your unit so they get some idea how their government's supposed to run.

I did exercised my 2nd amendment right today and picked up a second Ruger GP100 .357 Magnum in 4" stainless steel.

I also exercised my 1st amendment right by expressing my true feelings to a coworker, but that's a different thread...
Title: Re: September 17th
Post by: flyerthom on September 20, 2008, 04:06:11 AM
Did you all celebrate Sept 19th? (http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html)