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Operations => Tools of the trade => Topic started by: KyCAP on September 16, 2008, 01:24:00 AM

Title: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: KyCAP on September 16, 2008, 01:24:00 AM
OK.

So I've read this..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Cold_Weather_Clothing_System

My "read" on this is that the version changes only affect under layers of the clothing system and that the Gore-Tex Parka shells have not been changed (except for the camo pattern).

Anyone out there wearing this stuff all of the time know the difference to explain to a non-RM type?
Title: Re: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: lordmonar on September 16, 2008, 01:30:09 AM
I got the new ABU gortex.....it does not have a liner, the hood has a pouch so it can be rolled up and stowed, the zipper has a finer tooth pattern so it does not need the overlapping wind screen.  Also the zipper does not have bottom to top option like the Gen I gortex.

All in all....the Gen III stuff is much better.

Title: Re: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: IceNine on September 16, 2008, 01:33:07 AM
There is some differences in the arrangement of pockets as well, on the gore-tex shell.  Nothing too important.

The self healing zipper was a big one.  I have quite a few cadinks that had to have zippers replaced on the gen I jackets
Title: Re: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: MIKE on September 16, 2008, 01:52:05 AM
Can you even get anything above Gen II in woodland camo?
Title: Re: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: IceNine on September 16, 2008, 02:05:00 AM
Not in gore-tex.  At least not that I've found

They go however make a hyvat version
Title: Re: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: KyCAP on September 16, 2008, 02:16:47 AM
When shopping... How does one tell Gen I from Gen II?  Considering there is no "information" telling you that it is one or the other?
Title: Re: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: DC on September 16, 2008, 02:23:19 AM
What is the difference between Hyvat and Goretex? I have been assuming that they were two names for the same material...
Title: Re: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: KyCAP on September 16, 2008, 02:32:44 AM
Google search returns minimal useful information other than this:

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/405730 still not "official".
Title: Re: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: IceNine on September 16, 2008, 02:33:36 AM
Different manufacturer, I am not sure if there is any noticeable difference in quality, feel, or performance

Title: Re: OK.. ECWS GEN I vs. GEN III
Post by: MIKE on September 16, 2008, 02:58:31 AM