This picture was taken outside the Tinker AFB Education Center:
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i247/KC10Chief/Forum%20photos/DSC03806.jpg)
Low bidder got the contract.....
(http://www.jonco48.com/blog/endeavour.jpg)
In theory, all, or at least MOST of the people here should be rocket scientists of one sort or another.
I know the joke is they misspelled motorcycle, but I'd like to just point out that I can probably fit my Saturn in one of those spots. I stand before you a broken man.
Quote from: chiles on April 24, 2008, 10:05:36 PM
I know the joke is they misspelled motorcycle, but I'd like to just point out that I can probably fit my Saturn in one of those spots. I stand before you a broken man.
Could be worse man. I have
two 2005 Hyundai accents!
Of course they are both paid for but still. At least I still have 1992 Chevy S-10 ...
Well where do you want the poor guy to park? The other sign said all other spaces for for Atomobiles. I'm surprised someone didn't insist on one of those "Motercycle" spaces being a handicapped one.
What can I say? It's an AETC base. :clap:
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 25, 2008, 05:59:08 AM
The other sign said all other spaces for for Atomobiles.
Dang, George, for a second I thought you were serious and I had to go look at the picture again to see if there was a sign...I've got to get better (been sick for a few days now).
Anyone see this?
(http://static.flickr.com/51/150688555_b7f224251a.jpg)
Quote from: sargrunt on April 25, 2008, 01:34:55 PM
Anyone see this?
(http://static.flickr.com/51/150688555_b7f224251a.jpg)
totally fake
http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/tagging.asp (http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/tagging.asp)
I would figure that if AF1 is on an AFB, it would be in a hanger. But then again, I'm always amazed when I learn that something that makes sense to me is actually the other way around for a reason that makes even more sense than what I originally thought :D
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 25, 2008, 05:59:08 AM
What can I say? It's an AETC base. :clap:
Tinker is an AETC base? I could have sworn it was an AFMC base...
I don't know what MAJCOM it is, but i do know its the AWACS training center.
Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on April 26, 2008, 12:01:01 AM
...but i do know its the AWACS training center.
That has
nothing to do with AETC.
Quote from: shorning on April 26, 2008, 01:56:58 AM
Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on April 26, 2008, 12:01:01 AM
...but i do know its the AWACS training center.
That has nothing to do with AETC.
Umm... it is a logistics training base, tankers traning base and ABM training base. Yes, those squadrons are training squadrons (TRS) and yes, those squadrons do fall under AETC. As far as the base goes... it is Materiel, not AETC. I stand corrected.
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
Quote from: shorning on April 26, 2008, 01:56:58 AM
Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on April 26, 2008, 12:01:01 AM
...but i do know its the AWACS training center.
That has nothing to do with AETC.
Umm... it is a logistics training base, tankers traning base and ABM training base. Yes, those squadrons are training squadrons (TRS) and yes, those squadrons do fall under AETC. As far as the base goes... it is Materiel, not AETC. I stand corrected.
Not a Logistics training base. Not a Tanker training base. Not a ABM training base. That's three strikes, yur out!
Tinker is the home to the Oklahoma Air Logistics Center, the 552d AWACS Wing (ACC) and the 513th Air Refueling Wing (AFRC).
The base is owned by AFMC and ACC and AFRC are tenants.
Tanker training is conducted at Altus AFB, OK. ABM training happens at Tyndal AFB, FL. Logistics training happens at a couple of bases, Lackland AFB, TX, Sheppard AFB, TX and Keesler AFB, MS.
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
Umm... it is a logistics training base, tankers traning base and ABM training base.
Are you sure you spent time in the Air Force? ???
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
...and yes, those squadrons do fall under AETC.
Just because its a "training squadron" doesn't mean it belongs to AETC.
Quote from: shorning on April 26, 2008, 07:31:22 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
Umm... it is a logistics training base, tankers traning base and ABM training base.
Are you sure you spent time in the Air Force? ???
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
...and yes, those squadrons do fall under AETC.
Just because its a "training squadron" doesn't mean it belongs to AETC.
No, but that's what a student at one of those training classes just told me. ABM student.
Quote from: PHall on April 26, 2008, 07:10:36 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
Quote from: shorning on April 26, 2008, 01:56:58 AM
Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on April 26, 2008, 12:01:01 AM
...but i do know its the AWACS training center.
That has nothing to do with AETC.
Umm... it is a logistics training base, tankers traning base and ABM training base. Yes, those squadrons are training squadrons (TRS) and yes, those squadrons do fall under AETC. As far as the base goes... it is Materiel, not AETC. I stand corrected.
Not a Logistics training base. Not a Tanker training base. Not a ABM training base. That's three strikes, yur out!
Tinker is the home to the Oklahoma Air Logistics Center, the 552d AWACS Wing (ACC) and the 513th Air Refueling Wing (AFRC).
The base is owned by AFMC and ACC and AFRC are tenants.
Tanker training is conducted at Altus AFB, OK. ABM training happens at Tyndal AFB, FL. Logistics training happens at a couple of bases, Lackland AFB, TX, Sheppard AFB, TX and Keesler AFB, MS.
ABM training starts at Tyndall, but then they separate into two weapons platforms. The E-3 training is conducted at Tinker. The E-8 students go to Robins.
Tinker used to have an associate unit that trained KC-10 crews before they moved (nearby) to Altus. The Air Logistics Center trains for logistics (secondary training site, not tech school).
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 07:36:40 PM
The Air Logistics Center trains for logistics (secondary training site, not tech school).
Every base conducts continuation training, but they don't belong to AETC...
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 07:32:38 PM
Quote from: shorning on April 26, 2008, 07:31:22 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
Umm... it is a logistics training base, tankers traning base and ABM training base.
Are you sure you spent time in the Air Force? ???
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
...and yes, those squadrons do fall under AETC.
Just because its a "training squadron" doesn't mean it belongs to AETC.
No, but that's what a student at one of those training classes just told me. ABM student.
::)
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 07:36:40 PMTinker used to have an associate unit that trained KC-10 crews before they moved (nearby) to Altus.
Nope, each KC-10 base trains their own crews and maintenance people.
Training is part of the support contract for the KC-10.
I'm a former KC-10 Boom Operator, so I might know just a little bit about this.
Quote from: PHall on April 26, 2008, 08:07:29 PM
I'm a former KC-10 Boom Operator...
So you got paid to lay around all day passing gas?!? :D
Quote from: shorning on April 26, 2008, 08:16:30 PM
Quote from: PHall on April 26, 2008, 08:07:29 PM
I'm a former KC-10 Boom Operator...
So you got paid to lay around all day passing gas?!? :D
'Gucci' boomers sit down and pass gas... their boomer brethren on KC-135s lie down on the job! ;D
Keeping it on topic, I remember back WIWOAD at 'Spang Quentin' they put up a new sign for one of the Army's ADA (Air Defense Artillery) batteries. It was supposed to read 'HHB 6/56 ADA' (Headquarters and Headquarters Battery 6th Battery 56th ADA) but was alll hosed up: "HHB 6/56 ARMEY". Needless to say the battery commander was right on the phone with the Spang base commander... it got fixed right away.
Quote from: PHall on April 26, 2008, 08:07:29 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 26, 2008, 07:36:40 PMTinker used to have an associate unit that trained KC-10 crews before they moved (nearby) to Altus.
Nope, each KC-10 base trains their own crews and maintenance people.
Training is part of the support contract for the KC-10.
I'm a former KC-10 Boom Operator, so I might know just a little bit about this.
That's great... it's what numerous crews from McGuire have told me... I was with the 514th AMW there (Res), but I worked on C-141's.
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 27, 2008, 12:45:23 AM
That's great... it's what numerous crews from McGuire have told me... I was with the 514th AMW there (Res), but I worked on C-141's.
I bet they smiling when they told you that. Now, were they KC-10 crew members or C-141 crew members?
The 141 guys wouldn't know any more then you do.
The contractor who has the training contract for the KC-10's (currently Boeing) is responsible for conducting all training for both aircrew and maintenance personnel.
There never has been a "schoolhouse" for KC-10 training other then the simulator facility at each KC-10 base.
Air Force Maintenance only does home station maintenance to include "B" checks with contractor support.
Depot maintenance or "D" checks are handled by whoever gets the contract. At one time it was American Airlines.
You may have noticed a bunch of AGE equipment that is painted light blue on the ramp at McGuire.
That stuff is owned by the maintenance contractor and can only be used on the KC-10's.
Use it on something else and the legal office gets a notice of a Breech of Contract suit.
Quote from: PHall on April 27, 2008, 03:33:49 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 27, 2008, 12:45:23 AM
That's great... it's what numerous crews from McGuire have told me... I was with the 514th AMW there (Res), but I worked on C-141's.
I bet they smiling when they told you that. Now, were they KC-10 crew members or C-141 crew members?
The 141 guys wouldn't know any more then you do.
The contractor who has the training contract for the KC-10's (currently Boeing) is responsible for conducting all training for both aircrew and maintenance personnel.
There never has been a "schoolhouse" for KC-10 training other then the simulator facility at each KC-10 base.
Air Force Maintenance only does home station maintenance to include "B" checks with contractor support.
Depot maintenance or "D" checks are handled by whoever gets the contract. At one time it was American Airlines.
You may have noticed a bunch of AGE equipment that is painted light blue on the ramp at McGuire.
That stuff is owned by the maintenance contractor and can only be used on the KC-10's.
Use it on something else and the legal office gets a notice of a Breech of Contract suit.
They were Cadillac drivers... and they're always smiling.
Unlike the base commander at Tinker when he sees this photo.
Quote from: PHall on April 27, 2008, 03:33:49 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 27, 2008, 12:45:23 AM
That's great... it's what numerous crews from McGuire have told me... I was with the 514th AMW there (Res), but I worked on C-141's.
That stuff is owned by the maintenance contractor and can only be used on the KC-10's.
Use it on something else and the legal office gets a notice of a Breech of Contract suit.
It is really sad that this is what the Air Force has come to. Then again I think it a crime that the military has more civillians then uniformed members.
I want a return to the Cuban Missile Crisis, the threat of Communism, and the kind of funding that only Reagan could give. ::)
Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on April 27, 2008, 08:04:35 AM
Quote from: PHall on April 27, 2008, 03:33:49 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 27, 2008, 12:45:23 AM
That's great... it's what numerous crews from McGuire have told me... I was with the 514th AMW there (Res), but I worked on C-141's.
That stuff is owned by the maintenance contractor and can only be used on the KC-10's.
Use it on something else and the legal office gets a notice of a Breech of Contract suit.
It is really sad that this is what the Air Force has come to. Then again I think it a crime that the military has more civillians then uniformed members.
I want a return to the Cuban Missile Crisis, the threat of Communism, and the kind of funding that only Reagan could give. ::)
That equipment was provided by McDonnell-Douglas as part of their maintenance-support contract.
McDonnell-Douglas (now Boeing) owns it, it is not government property. It's private property.
Quote from: NIN on April 24, 2008, 09:26:44 PM
(http://www.jonco48.com/blog/endeavour.jpg)
In theory, all, or at least MOST of the people here should be rocket scientists of one sort or another.
As a NASA engineer, I shudder in horror at the spelling and grammer and such in a lot of our project papers and presentations.
Also, from what I've seen, we took the list of things NOT to do in a powerpoint presentation, and turned it into a checklist for making slides...
Quote from: MikeD on April 27, 2008, 08:46:03 PM
As a NASA engineer, I shudder in horror at the spelling and grammer and such in a lot of our project papers and presentations.
Also, from what I've seen, we took the list of things NOT to do in a powerpoint presentation, and turned it into a checklist for making slides...
;D
That's a common tendency among Grammar Cops. And the more the message counts, or the harsher it is, the greater the likelihood that the poster will make a misteak in his/her post. ;)
Quote from: bte on April 27, 2008, 10:12:43 PM
Quote from: MikeD on April 27, 2008, 08:46:03 PM
As a NASA engineer, I shudder in horror at the spelling and grammer and such in a lot of our project papers and presentations.
Also, from what I've seen, we took the list of things NOT to do in a powerpoint presentation, and turned it into a checklist for making slides...
;D
to quote Ralph from The Simpsons "Me fail english? Thats unpossible!"
Quote from: SarDragon on April 28, 2008, 09:56:35 AM
That's a common tendency among Grammar Cops. And the more the message counts, or the harsher it is, the greater the likelihood that the poster will make a misteak in his/her post. ;)
Hmmmm, did someone stay Steak? Yummmmmmm
Quote from: SarDragon on April 28, 2008, 09:56:35 AM
That's a common tendency among Grammar Cops. And the more the message counts, or the harsher it is, the greater the likelihood that the poster will make a misteak in his/her post. ;)
rare or well done? And what kind of critter is a mis that you et steak from it?