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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: SSgt Rudin on April 09, 2008, 05:08:08 PM

Title: TWIMC
Post by: SSgt Rudin on April 09, 2008, 05:08:08 PM
TWIMC - To Whom It May Concern

When I was in the Navy I received plenty of e-mails addressed to acronyms (TWIMC, ALCON, and a few others I can't recall) and in CAP I have received a few ALCON's, but when I sent one the other day addressed TWIMC I got a response of "I think you sent this to the wrong address, there is no Twimc working in this office."

Has any one else ever heard of, seen, or used this? Or did I just make myself look stupid?
Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: MIKE on April 09, 2008, 05:14:28 PM
Another case of "no common core of experience."
Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: jimmydeanno on April 09, 2008, 05:16:15 PM
I've never seen TWIMC although I have seen ALCON, both in military memorandums and in CAP.

However, I've always taken issue with the use of abbreviations like this in formal correspondence.  Is it really that much trouble to put "To whom it may concern" or "All concerned?"

To me it makes it out as though the information in the letter can't be too important if you aren't even willing to spell out who the letter is to.

I also don't like the use of v/r (Very Respectfully).  How respectful is it really to abbreviate your sentiments?

I don't ever use these in formal or informal correspondence, maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: DogCollar on April 09, 2008, 05:46:57 PM
I refuse to respond to emails, letters or memorandums that are addressed "To Whom it May Concern," or it's acronym. >:( >:(  They will go in the delete file or wastebasket along with all the spam or junkmail addressed for "resident."
Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: DrJbdm on April 09, 2008, 06:01:57 PM
 
QuoteI also don't like the use of v/r (Very Respectfully).  How respectful is it really to abbreviate your sentiments?

  The use of R or Respectfully is signed when responding to or writing to a person who is junior in rank to you. the V/R or Very Respectfully is used with a person who is senior in rank to you. It's one of the little military manners that CAP misses without a good high quality military model of OCS.

a more formal letter would dictate the full word of Respectfully or Very Respectfully, a less formal one would be ok to use R or V/R.

Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: CFI_Ed on April 09, 2008, 08:24:05 PM
QuoteIt's one of the little military manners that CAP misses without a good high quality military model of OCS.
I guess us ROTC guys from way back when didn't have this block of training ;D

I also have noticed that the use of v/r & r only coming up only in the last few years as we never added the abbreviation in our correspondence.  When used, we spelled it out.
Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: SarDragon on April 09, 2008, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: CFI_Ed on April 09, 2008, 08:24:05 PM
QuoteIt's one of the little military manners that CAP misses without a good high quality military model of OCS.
I guess us ROTC guys from way back when didn't have this block of training ;D

I also have noticed that the use of v/r & r only coming up only in the last few years as we never added the abbreviation in our correspondence.  When used, we spelled it out.

WIWOAD (USN, '69 - '89), I only ever saw it on informal, handwritted correspondence. If we move that into the 21st century, I suppose that it would be OK in an informal email, but never in formal correspondence, no matter what type.
Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: DNall on April 09, 2008, 10:15:06 PM
Never used & don't recall seeing TWIMC, use ALCON all the time, pretty interchangeable.

My Army email sig line has "v/r" above my name/unit/poc. It's pretty standard & is correct per official communications protocol.
Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: SSgt Rudin on April 09, 2008, 10:23:24 PM
Quote from: DogCollar on April 09, 2008, 05:46:57 PM
I refuse to respond to emails, letters or memorandums that are addressed "To Whom it May Concern," or it's acronym. >:( >:(  They will go in the delete file or wastebasket along with all the spam or junkmail addressed for "resident."

So if I need to send an e-mail to an address of which I do not know the who recipient is (ie helpdesk@whatever.com or sales@whatever.com, etc) what do you suggest?

Quote from: DNall on April 09, 2008, 10:15:06 PM
Never used & don't recall seeing TWIMC, use ALCON all the time, pretty interchangeable.

My Army email sig line has "v/r" above my name/unit/poc. It's pretty standard & is correct per official communications protocol.

Maybe I just saw it a lot because my e-mail was on a forwarding list for a help desk.
Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: Fifinella on April 10, 2008, 05:31:21 AM
I believe "Dear Sir/Ma'am" is still considered appropriate.

When I email a helpdesk, I usually just open with "Hello".
Title: Re: TWIMC
Post by: Cecil DP on April 10, 2008, 05:35:26 AM
Quote from: Fifinella on April 10, 2008, 05:31:21 AM
I believe "Dear Sir/Ma'am" is still considered appropriate.

When I email a helpdesk, I usually just open with "Hello".

I agree