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Title: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: NIN on February 07, 2008, 04:53:12 PM
I figured I'd blunt the usual attack straightaway...

I'm looking to gauge the number of folks in Civil Air Patrol (either here on CAP-Talk, or just anybody in CAP that a CAP-Talk poster might know) who are also skydivers.

I'm not talking "Man, I took a tandem last year and it was AWESOME!" or "Yeah, I did a static line jump in 1978 out of a Cessna 182 over a farmer's field under a round.. It was AWESOME!" or even "I'm a five-jump chump from Benning/USAFA and it SUCKED!"

I'm talking licensed, current jumping skydivers.

As many of you may know, Civil Air Patrol had an active cadre of jumpers in the 1940s and into the early 1950s, jumping from CAP planes using CAP-owned equipment, and organized as "parachute jumping squadrons."  I am not suggesting a restart of that.

Nor am I suggesting that we jump out of CAP planes.  I am fully aware of the provisions of Civil Air Patrol Regulation 60-1 regarding "parachuting activities" from Civil Air Patrol planes, and I am further also fully aware of the the prohibition on parachuting as a cadet activity.

If you're a skydiver, let me know. If you know of a skydiver in your unit, group, wing, whatever, who is not a participant here on CAP-Talk, let me know as well (and if you're feeling sporty, pass along to them my contact information and have them drop me a line directly. Email is in my profile..)

Thanks in advance!

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Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: Stonewall on February 07, 2008, 04:59:31 PM
Tom and Colin (PJ and Ranger, not the drink Tom Collins) are both Eaker dudes who may not be in CAP anymore but LOVE to jump in their free time. 

I had a check for $3K up in DC (Orange, VA) to get certified up to a certain level or whatever it's called, but that was when I made money.  Maybe when I get back from "a", not "the", desert, I can afford to finish that goal.
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: BigMojo on February 07, 2008, 05:01:46 PM
I was D-pro rated until a gust-front induced downwind landing shattered my left leg (35mph onto a parade route asphalt street hurts btw). But I'll volunteer as event photographer.

Here's a self portrait from "back in the day" using a radio transmitter and a bite switch. It only took 14 rolls of film and several weeks to get this shot. (Back when digital SLR's were cost prohibitive!)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y174/badger1030/iDC2CBAC4-4CA3-4152-B4C0-36EF95C952.jpg)
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: NIN on February 07, 2008, 05:23:18 PM
Ben, you're on like Donkey Kong! :)

(Nice shot, BTW.. I'm not nearly that good)

Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: BigMojo on February 07, 2008, 06:36:45 PM
Just wish I could jump with y'all...


My Doc called me Humpty Dumpty...he said, "You can jump again if you want to, but I can't tell you I can put you back together again." After being in some sort of a brace for 6 months, and another 6 of rehab, I walk without a limp, but I don't jump anymore. I went once after rehab to prove to myself I could, and then sold my rig(s).

So, I'm there to hang out of the plane at 14k and shoot or shoot from the ground. I miss being a DZ rat.
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: Fifinella on February 08, 2008, 06:22:11 AM
You know I'm in.

Nice shot, BigMojo.  I  did a little videography in 1994-1995, and have the neck to prove it.  :o

Blue Skies, y'all.
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: ♠SARKID♠ on February 11, 2008, 08:43:10 AM
Okay, I haven't gone skydiving though I really really want to. 

But have any of you ever done this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tv5s4o0JOE

Absolutely nuts!  I would Never get that close to a prop.
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: SarDragon on February 11, 2008, 09:10:55 AM
My best SWAG tells me that it would be difficult at best to have any contact with it.

YMMV.
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: Fifinella on February 11, 2008, 02:57:35 PM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on February 11, 2008, 08:43:10 AM
But have any of you ever done this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tv5s4o0JOE

Absolutely nuts!  I would Never get that close to a prop.
I'd be more concerned about a jumper damaging the aileron or flap while departing the wing.  This is not a good idea.
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: NIN on February 11, 2008, 04:18:43 PM
Years ago there was a King Air 350 that flew on the skydiving circuit.  T-tail King Air, took 23 jumpers, floated 14.  That plane was AWESOME.  There was a photo of Orly King (big video guy, head-down jumper, etc) standing on top of the t-tail waiting for a group to exit.  The FAA was not amused.

Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: lordmonar on February 11, 2008, 10:21:50 PM
What about the guy in one of the SKYS CALL books surfing on the wing of an INVERTED Cessna!  ;D

They taped over the N number so the FAA would have a harder time tracking down the culprits. >:D
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: Matt on February 11, 2008, 10:30:12 PM
Quote from: NIN on February 11, 2008, 04:18:43 PM
... The FAA was not amused.

Well... it does bring a new meaning to the FAA Wings program, no?
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: piperl4 on February 12, 2008, 02:08:18 AM
Yea could join that club, does dropping objects count as sky diving?
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: NIN on February 12, 2008, 02:16:38 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on February 11, 2008, 10:21:50 PM
What about the guy in one of the SKYS CALL books surfing on the wing of an INVERTED Cessna!  ;D

They taped over the N number so the FAA would have a harder time tracking down the culprits. >:D

Patrick

I just dug thru Skies Call (ha! I happen to have a copy! How's that for geeky?) and didn't see such. I did catch the pic of the guy sprawled across the windscreen of what looks like a Beaver or something like that...

Was it in one of the 2nd editions or the later Skies Call II?

Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: Climbnsink on February 12, 2008, 02:42:25 AM
I did a few thousand jumps back in the 90's.   Don't miss skydiving I do miss BASE, but the price for that is definitely to high for me now.
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: SJFedor on February 12, 2008, 03:04:02 AM
Once I've got comm single and multi and my CFI ratings done, skydiving is next on the list. either that or helicopters, and i think skydiving will be cheaper.
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: BlueLakes1 on February 12, 2008, 03:18:17 AM
I flew the jump plane once...that's plenty close enough to jumping for me!
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: BigMojo on February 12, 2008, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: Redfire11 on February 12, 2008, 03:18:17 AM
I flew the jump plane once...that's plenty close enough to jumping for me!

After I busted myself up, I flew right seat in the jump plane, a pilatus porter (butt ugly, tail draggin' turboprop). We took pride in getting to the ground faster than the jumpers.  >:D You could feather the prop and go darn near vertical dive with it. There's a pretty cool video out there somewhere of that thing's high angle approach/STOL capabilities. I'll see if I can find it.

<edit> Here's some...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7vrQ2ruJSo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU3RecxHRtk&feature=related

FF to about 50secs in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aznWjdjEJJI

Personal Favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD1xBMthXBs&feature=related



Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: NIN on February 12, 2008, 06:08:30 PM
Quote from: SJFedor on February 12, 2008, 03:04:02 AM
Once I've got comm single and multi and my CFI ratings done, skydiving is next on the list. either that or helicopters, and i think skydiving will be cheaper.

There is an old joke in skydiving: "It costs about $200 for your first jump, then half your money for the rest of your life."

Its not that far off, really.

Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: NIN on February 12, 2008, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: BigMojo on February 12, 2008, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: Redfire11 on February 12, 2008, 03:18:17 AM
I flew the jump plane once...that's plenty close enough to jumping for me!

After I busted myself up, I flew right seat in the jump plane, a pilatus porter (butt ugly, tail draggin' turboprop). We took pride in getting to the ground faster than the jumpers.  >:D You could feather the prop and go darn near vertical dive with it. There's a pretty cool video out there somewhere of that thing's high angle approach/STOL capabilities. I'll see if I can find it.
<snip>

Those are quite good, really.

I've been in freefall with Mike Mullins and his King Air, looking at him "communicating" with me (keeping up foreign relations) from about 20 yards away. Me on my belly, accelerating toward the earth, him vertically pointing downwards and going faster than me....

Its odd when the plane you just jumped out of beats you to the ground and is taxiing to get the next load while you're still landing...

They don't call his plane the "Routine Rocket" for nothing. He doesn't get out of the cockpit all day except to pee and grab a sandwich or drink...  35-40 loads per day, all day..... Doesn't even shut down.

Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: Smokey on February 12, 2008, 06:22:15 PM
Sorry but I cannot force myself to jump from a perfectly good airplane. As  a cop I handled a parachuting accident in 1978. It was his 100th jump!  Main chute failed, he cut loose and witnesses said he began to tumble. It seems he was trying to get back into the spread eagle position when he landed face down in the front yard of a house---plus he bounced once. The handle for the rserve chute waas still tucked in his pocket.  

When I got to the airport to interview his jump buddies they were mad at me because I was delaying their takeoff for the next jump...they had two more scheduled!

Besides ruining his day...he ruined mine too.  It was 15 minutes before the end of my watch (1545 Hrs) and he land only 25 feet into my county. A little further west and he would have not been my problem!

So.......I think I will take the trip up in the plane and back down again, thank you.
Title: Re: CAP Members who jump out of perfectly good airplanes..
Post by: alamrcn on February 12, 2008, 10:39:45 PM
I've got one solo Hollywood jump. I don't have any interest in it as a sport, nor the funds to alocate towards it. But having my one day of glory falling through the sky, I can appreciate those that get really into parachuting on a regular basis.

Good-on-ya for keeping up with the sport!

While I don't EVER see Civil Air Patrol involving parachuting into ANY of it's activities, I do wish that CAP would acknowledge it as a legitamit aviation activity.

Soaring and Ballooning are, and even Ultralites (gulp) now. So, why not Parachuting?

-Ace