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Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: Tubacap on February 05, 2008, 10:02:00 PM

Title: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: Tubacap on February 05, 2008, 10:02:00 PM
Okay, now that we have a new "Tools of the Trade" Forum, I'm not sure where this would go... I'll put it in ES, but mods, I won't be offended in the slightest if you move it anywhere you like.

Does anyone have a Field Operations Guide for CAP Ground Operations?  I konw of a myriad of resources for the ICS, but I am looking for is a FOG for your typical GTMx to take out in the woods to reference things like natural hazards, whistle signals, and things on a tactical level. 

If no one has anything, what are some topics that you think would be useful?
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: Dragoon on February 05, 2008, 10:09:52 PM
The closest equivalent is the GT/UDF task guide.  It contains the info you want and fits in a cargo pocket.

http://www.cap.gov/documents/u_052704140516.pdf
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: Tubacap on February 05, 2008, 10:15:29 PM
Too big, I'm looking for something that is probably going to be under 100 pages and contains extremely useful information without any of the eval stuff.  If there is nothing out there, I would be happy to start the project (although it may take me a large chunck of time due to extremely limited extra time right now).
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: mamadinos on February 05, 2008, 11:18:57 PM
How about the Ground & Urban DF reference text? http://www.cap.gov/documents/u_7102905590858541879.pdf (http://www.cap.gov/documents/u_7102905590858541879.pdf).  This is what the NGSAR folks hand out.  It is 150 pages but it can be shrunk to a fairly small booklet and kept in a ziploc bag in your 24-hour pack.
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: isuhawkeye on February 05, 2008, 11:48:28 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Field-Operations-Guide-Search-Rescue/dp/1879471159 (http://www.amazon.com/Field-Operations-Guide-Search-Rescue/dp/1879471159)
http://www.nasar.org/garmin/product_info.php?products_id=153 (http://www.nasar.org/garmin/product_info.php?products_id=153)
http://www.eri-online.com/uploads/LPB_BookFlierNov2_07.pdf (http://www.eri-online.com/uploads/LPB_BookFlierNov2_07.pdf)
http://www.eri-online.com/uploads/HandbookNov2_07.pdf (http://www.eri-online.com/uploads/HandbookNov2_07.pdf)



HEre are a few field reference tools.
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: Tubacap on February 05, 2008, 11:53:19 PM
^Does anyone have any experience with this FOG?  It seems like it may be the item I'm looking for.
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: isuhawkeye on February 05, 2008, 11:57:05 PM
A few more for you
http://www.dbs-sar.com/incident_management_publications.htm (http://www.dbs-sar.com/incident_management_publications.htm)

Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: brasda91 on February 07, 2008, 01:25:53 PM
Quote from: Tubacap on February 05, 2008, 10:15:29 PM
Too big, I'm looking for something that is probably going to be under 100 pages and contains extremely useful information without any of the eval stuff.  If there is nothing out there, I would be happy to start the project (although it may take me a large chunck of time due to extremely limited extra time right now).

Keep in mind, the Ground and UDF Task Guide and the Reference Text are the standard publications for use in CAP.  These are used nationally so no matter where you go in CAP, everyone has been taught the same technique.  For you to use a different book/s you may be learning/teaching different techniques.  Besides, if you don't follow the task guide, you can't really sign off on any ES training.
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: RiverAux on February 07, 2008, 08:43:57 PM
The task guide isn't all that much trouble to carry in the field.  It has plenty of useful information.  If you wanted to print and trim the edges off one yourself you could probably reduce the number of pages a bit by cutting out those that just had evaluation stuff, but that doesn't seem to be worth the effort.

By the way, are they still selling pre-bound task guides and reference texts at Vanguard or are we expected to print them off ourselves?
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: notaNCO forever on February 07, 2008, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on February 07, 2008, 08:43:57 PM
By the way, are they still selling pre-bound task guides and reference texts at Vanguard or are we expected to print them off ourselves?
I'm allmost certain they still sell them I Will have to look though.
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: davedove on February 07, 2008, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on February 07, 2008, 08:43:57 PM
By the way, are they still selling pre-bound task guides and reference texts at Vanguard or are we expected to print them off ourselves?

They still show them on Vanguard's website.
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: notaNCO forever on February 07, 2008, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: davedove on February 07, 2008, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on February 07, 2008, 08:43:57 PM
By the way, are they still selling pre-bound task guides and reference texts at Vanguard or are we expected to print them off ourselves?

They still show them on Vanguard's website.
I just looked and couldn't find them.
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: davedove on February 07, 2008, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: NCO forever on February 07, 2008, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: davedove on February 07, 2008, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on February 07, 2008, 08:43:57 PM
By the way, are they still selling pre-bound task guides and reference texts at Vanguard or are we expected to print them off ourselves?

They still show them on Vanguard's website.
I just looked and couldn't find them.

In the Civil Air Patrol section, under Books and Training, Task guides and Log books.
Title: Re: CAP Ground Ops Field Operations Guide
Post by: notaNCO forever on February 07, 2008, 09:18:57 PM
Quote from: davedove on February 07, 2008, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: NCO forever on February 07, 2008, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: davedove on February 07, 2008, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on February 07, 2008, 08:43:57 PM
By the way, are they still selling pre-bound task guides and reference texts at Vanguard or are we expected to print them off ourselves?

They still show them on Vanguard's website.
I just looked and couldn't find them.


In the Civil Air Patrol section, under Books and Training, Task guides and Log books.
Ok thanks :)