Does anyone know if they have a set guide of equipment required for encampment or what gear is required in your Alice pack or on H-Y harness. Or do you just wing it.
Most encampments send out a lidt of required and recommended equipment a few weeks before the event. This usually allows ample time to acquire these items.
If costs are an issue, see if you can get a copy of last year's list for the event, and see what you have, and still need. Use that as a guideline for how much you have to stuff the piggy bank until you get the new list. Throw in a little to account for new or higher priced items.
Quote from: guy4580 on January 31, 2008, 12:36:16 AM
Does anyone know if they have a set guide of equipment required for encampment or what gear is required in your Alice pack or on H-Y harness. Or do you just wing it.
Most encampments wont require an ALICE pack, or any more field gear then a web belt and canteen.
Ask however is your next up in the chain of comand if they have a list for your wings encampment. Hope you have a good time at encampment. :)
Which encampment?
Some would not even need a pack.
This is what ILWG Spring publishes:
http://encampment.group22.net/equipment.html
My encampment just required uniforms, and basic toiletries. We were issued web belts and canteens for the length of encampment, as well as additional equipment we might need, like road guard vest and lights, etc. We were not required to have ALICE packs, or any field gear for that matter..
Every year, when we open the compartment(s) (usually one which has not been used in awhile, if ever) we'll see a canteen belt hanging on the hook of every rack.
Generally the CPO will indicate that if we want to use them, no problem...until I ask him how much paperwork would be involved if one of our cadets "forgets" to return it.
...
...we don't use them. :D
(http://encampment.group22.net/lockers.jpg)
Isn't that special! Shipboard style racks in a shore environment, with a bit more vertical separation.
thats what you get for having encampment on the only Naval Basic Training base in the world
Ships, Bulkheads, scuttlebutts, and AWESOME 2 inch steel backed vinyl couch cushions to sleep on
Quote from: IceNine on January 31, 2008, 01:33:53 AM
thats what you get for having encampment on the only Naval Basic Training base in the world
Ships, Bulkheads, scuttlebutts, and AWESOME 2 inch steel backed vinyl couch cushions to sleep on
We're told that the racks are just a little bit larger than the one a seaman could expect on a modern ship.
They are actually quite comfortable, the mattresses being only slightly thi9nner than a civilian model.
What they are is
HE-VEE, like real heavy. You'll notice the hydraulic piston. We had the misfortune of getting a few racks without them last year (initially to be replaced when they were discovered).
I saw two cadets struggling with one, and went up to he-man it up. Not.
They are so heavy that a good-sized adult man cannot lift them without assistance!
I really do appreciate all the input I'm trying to get things around for this spring for some over night navigation both with compass and by the stars, also have been fortunate that a buddy of mine works at the observatory just outside of town for the cadets to get to see the stars up close. thanks again
Quote from: Eclipse on January 31, 2008, 03:13:52 AM
We're told that the racks are just a little bit larger than the one a seaman could expect on a modern ship.
They are actually quite comfortable, the mattresses being only slightly thi9nner than a civilian model.
What they are is HE-VEE, like real heavy. You'll notice the hydraulic piston. We had the misfortune of getting a few racks without them last year (initially to be replaced when they were discovered).
I saw two cadets struggling with one, and went up to he-man it up. Not.
They are so heavy that a good-sized adult man cannot lift them without assistance!
Hydraulic piston? never had anything like that on ship, we had a flimsy aluminum bar that folded out when you lifted the rack up. Putting it down was no fun either, you had to hold all the weight with you shoulder lift it about an inch push the bar out of the way and try not to loose a finger in the process.
We had an HT3 who took it upon himself to install 2 hydraulic pistons on his rack and he went to DRB for it, didn't make it past the XO though since he said it was a "safety issue." But we were told we couldn't do it. There was almost an all out brawl for his rack when he PCS'd.
QuoteI really do appreciate all the input I'm trying to get things around for this spring for some over night navigation both with compass and by the stars, also have been fortunate that a buddy of mine works at the observatory just outside of town for the cadets to get to see the stars up close.
So you are planning a SAREX(ish) not planning for encampment. Totaly different story, that list can be found in the Knowledgebase (http://capnhq.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/capnhq.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=985&p_created=1057534664&p_sid=AN6Cv9Xi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MzcmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PWVzIGdlYXI*&p_li=&p_topview=1)
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O_KAY,
If you're going to an encampment, most every one I've been to provides a list of stuff to bring. Back when CAP actually had an Encampment manual it also had a basic list of stuff to bring.
Leave the kiddie crap at home, like the gameboy, magazines, etc. Your stuff is searched and you'll get it back when you go home. YOu wouldn't believe what we'd confiscated from some kids at in-processing.
If you're going to a SAREX, consult the Ground Team tasks. THe first task if memory serves is your 24 and 72 hours lists. That and 30 bucks will get you through a weekend if you're a cadet.
Quote from: Johnny Yuma on February 01, 2008, 07:29:02 PM
O_KAY,
YOu wouldn't believe what we'd confiscated from some kids at in-processing.
Tabasco sauce, Strange but true
alrighty thanks again for everything you've answered my question and some..
Quote from: NCO forever on February 01, 2008, 09:27:38 PM
Quote from: Johnny Yuma on February 01, 2008, 07:29:02 PM
O_KAY,
YOu wouldn't believe what we'd confiscated from some kids at in-processing.
Tabasco sauce, Strange but true
Worse than that.
Fireworks and lighters were incredibly popular during one encampment. We took away several packs of Black Cats from a very unhappy cadet.
One cadet's mom loaned him her carryall and she failed to unpack it completely.
Imagine our surprise when we opened a side pocket to find women's underwear, feminine hygiene products, etc.
How about an entire Xbox and 6 games???
Quote from: IceNine on January 31, 2008, 01:33:53 AM
thats what you get for having encampment on the only Naval Basic Training base in the world
Ships, Bulkheads, scuttlebutts, and AWESOME 2 inch steel backed vinyl couch cushions to sleep on
Sheesh! Here in NY we sleep on USAF issued cots in Air Guard built huts made of plywood. Every time someone turns in their bed a howling squeal is made by all 4 walls and the roof. It'd be near impossible to sleep if we didn't work about 14 hours a day (I'll take some photos in July and post them on here).
Quote from: afgeo4 on February 02, 2008, 07:22:29 AM
Quote from: IceNine on January 31, 2008, 01:33:53 AM
thats what you get for having encampment on the only Naval Basic Training base in the world
Ships, Bulkheads, scuttlebutts, and AWESOME 2 inch steel backed vinyl couch cushions to sleep on
Sheesh! Here in NY we sleep on USAF issued cots in Air Guard built huts made of plywood. Every time someone turns in their bed a howling squeal is made by all 4 walls and the roof. It'd be near impossible to sleep if we didn't work about 14 hours a day (I'll take some photos in July and post them on here).
Heh, these "ships" are about as solid as they get, and we're told EMI/RFI shielded by design, which explains the difficulty we have with comms inside.
The biggest issue we have at night are the red safety lights and making sure at least one person walks a CQ to keep the heat on. Its a "smart-building" and if it detects no movement it shuts down the heat!
Quote from: Eclipse on February 02, 2008, 07:44:43 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on February 02, 2008, 07:22:29 AM
Quote from: IceNine on January 31, 2008, 01:33:53 AM
thats what you get for having encampment on the only Naval Basic Training base in the world
Ships, Bulkheads, scuttlebutts, and AWESOME 2 inch steel backed vinyl couch cushions to sleep on
Sheesh! Here in NY we sleep on USAF issued cots in Air Guard built huts made of plywood. Every time someone turns in their bed a howling squeal is made by all 4 walls and the roof. It'd be near impossible to sleep if we didn't work about 14 hours a day (I'll take some photos in July and post them on here).
Heh, these "ships" are about as solid as they get, and we're told EMI/RFI shielded by design, which explains the difficulty we have with comms inside.
The biggest issue we have at night are the red safety lights and making sure at least one person walks a CQ to keep the heat on. Its a "smart-building" and if it detects no movement it shuts down the heat!
Umm... you should really have a Dorm Guard (AF name for fire guard) doing rounds 24/7 anyway. You never know who may want to cause the Navy harm (they don't know it's CAP cadets in the building and not USN recruits)