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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: G+10 on December 06, 2007, 04:47:52 PM

Title: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: G+10 on December 06, 2007, 04:47:52 PM
Nowhere in CAPM 39-1 does it specify that the golf shirt must be short sleeve, although all the photographs show short sleeves. What I am wondering is if there is some common knowledge that golf shirt is only short sleeves and polo shirt can be either?

I wish they would have specified it in 39-1!!!

John Gniewkowski, Capt, CAP
MO-098
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: 0 on December 06, 2007, 05:01:07 PM
So far i think they only make the short sleeve.  You'd most likely need to special order a long sleeve one some where.  Although a long sleeve one might not be a bad idea.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: RogueLeader on December 06, 2007, 05:34:27 PM
I've never seen a long sleeve Golf shirt- in CAP or anywhere else.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: Hawk200 on December 06, 2007, 05:52:09 PM
I have a long sleeve 5.11 polo. I don't know what the technical differences between a "golf" shirt and a "polo" shirt. The basic design looks the same to me.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: sparks on December 06, 2007, 05:56:37 PM
I bought a long sleeve dark blue pull over to wear under the polo shirt. It's too light for the cold climate. The collarless pull over is the same color as the polo and isn't restricted by the 39-1. Of course a long sleeve shirt would be a better solution but none is available.


BRRRR
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: star1151 on December 06, 2007, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: G+10 on December 06, 2007, 04:47:52 PM
What I am wondering is if there is some common knowledge that golf shirt is only short sleeves and polo shirt can be either?

I call anything that's not button down and has a collar a polo shirt, and yes, I own long sleeves ones (not the CAP one, of course)
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: sardak on December 06, 2007, 06:58:50 PM
Tennis shirt, anyone?
Apparently the name derived from tennis to polo to golf, but they're all the same, and they can have long sleeves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_shirt

Mike
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: RogueLeader on December 06, 2007, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: sardak on December 06, 2007, 06:58:50 PM
Tennis shirt, anyone?
Apparently the name derived from tennis to polo to golf, but they're all the same, and they can have long sleeves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_shirt

Mike

I could change that if i felt like it. . .

But I won't

[/drifty]
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: O-Rex on December 06, 2007, 09:49:12 PM
I strongly advocate a navy blue button-doen oxford shirt, like the one's corporations sell employees with their logo (I got one for my day job.)

you could make it a "seasonal" item in temperate areas, Oct-Apr

It could have the same embroidery as the personalized Golf shirt, and you could wear thermals under it without looking like a nerd.

Whether we stay with gray slacks or go to khakis, it would look sharp...
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: star1151 on December 07, 2007, 04:01:06 AM
Quote from: O-Rex on December 06, 2007, 09:49:12 PM
I strongly advocate a navy blue button-doen oxford shirt, like the one's corporations sell employees with their logo (I got one for my day job.)


Then we'd look like salespeople.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: O-Rex on December 07, 2007, 05:22:19 AM
Quote from: star1151 on December 07, 2007, 04:01:06 AM
Quote from: O-Rex on December 06, 2007, 09:49:12 PM
I strongly advocate a navy blue button-doen oxford shirt, like the one's corporations sell employees with their logo (I got one for my day job.)


Then we'd look like salespeople.

Perhaps, but it beats looking like AARP poster-boys in our groovy golf shirts...
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: mikeylikey on December 07, 2007, 03:31:47 PM
Has anyone played golf in the golf shirt? 
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: star1151 on December 07, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: O-Rex on December 07, 2007, 05:22:19 AM
Quote from: star1151 on December 07, 2007, 04:01:06 AM
Quote from: O-Rex on December 06, 2007, 09:49:12 PM
I strongly advocate a navy blue button-doen oxford shirt, like the one's corporations sell employees with their logo (I got one for my day job.)


Then we'd look like salespeople.

Perhaps, but it beats looking like AARP poster-boys in our groovy golf shirts...

I guess I just don't get it.  I work in a business casual environment, and all the men wear polo shirts.  I never thought of it as a AARP poster boy thing.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: 0 on December 09, 2007, 12:58:20 AM
Quote from: mikeylikey on December 07, 2007, 03:31:47 PM
Has anyone played golf in the golf shirt? 

I haven't yet... But if I do I'd most likely use the silk screen golf shirt and not the embroidered one.  They look to nice to wear out on the links.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: Lancer on January 02, 2008, 04:18:01 AM
Quote from: O-Rex on December 06, 2007, 09:49:12 PM
I strongly advocate a navy blue button-doen oxford shirt, like the one's corporations sell employees with their logo (I got one for my day job.)

you could make it a "seasonal" item in temperate areas, Oct-Apr

It could have the same embroidery as the personalized Golf shirt, and you could wear thermals under it without looking like a nerd.

Whether we stay with gray slacks or go to khakis, it would look sharp...


You were saying...

(http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/images/medium/CAP8000MH8000NH8000OH8000PH_MED.jpg)

http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_415_1857_1929_1933&products_id=13262 (http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_415_1857_1929_1933&products_id=13262)

Comes in Red, Royal and Navy Blue and Black. Available in S thru XL for the ladies, and M thru XXL for the men.

I'd of course need one in 3XL, and I'd like a long sleeve option as well.

Oh, and in the New Items section, they have a Mock Turtleneck listed with CAP on the collar, in white and navy blue. I'm wondering if this is going to be something similar to a Under Armor Coldgear mock. I highly doubt it, but we can certainly wish.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: star1151 on January 02, 2008, 06:33:56 PM
You have to tuck that in, though.  Don't have to tuck in a golf shirt, which is a whole lot more flattering.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: Lancer on January 02, 2008, 07:18:44 PM
Quote from: star1151 on January 02, 2008, 06:33:56 PM
You have to tuck that in, though.  Don't have to tuck in a golf shirt, which is a whole lot more flattering.

Well, #1, that's not a uniform item, so you wear it how you like (obviously tucked is more professional).

AFAIC, you should wear the polo tucked in, especially if your wearing it as a uniform, but that's my opinion. I'm a big guy too.

I think the idea behind them offering the oxford is so we have something that let's us represent our organization, without violating any sacred uniform regulations.  ::)
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: O-Rex on January 02, 2008, 07:31:35 PM
Put the patch on the right side, wings and name on the left, and you could have a winter alternative to the golf shirt.

I've been harping about that for years. . . . .
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: star1151 on January 03, 2008, 12:54:25 AM
Quote from: Lancer on January 02, 2008, 07:18:44 PM
Quote from: star1151 on January 02, 2008, 06:33:56 PM
You have to tuck that in, though.  Don't have to tuck in a golf shirt, which is a whole lot more flattering.

AFAIC, you should wear the polo tucked in, especially if your wearing it as a uniform, but that's my opinion. I'm a big guy too.

I think the idea behind them offering the oxford is so we have something that let's us represent our organization, without violating any sacred uniform regulations.  ::)

Ok, true, it's not a uniform (although the golf shirt isn't required to be tucked in, if tailored correctly).  I'd love to have something casual to wear, but an oxford's not it.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: RiverAux on January 03, 2008, 01:54:01 AM
Can only wear the golf shirt untucked except in hot weather while on flight line. 
citation - 39-1 Table 4-4.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: flyerthom on January 03, 2008, 02:34:54 AM
How about a dark blue rugby shirt?

http://www.worldrugbyshop.com/frontpage-items-rugby-world-cup-2007-hooped-jersey.html (http://www.worldrugbyshop.com/frontpage-items-rugby-world-cup-2007-hooped-jersey.html)

http://www.americanrugby.com/home.html (http://www.americanrugby.com/home.html)

All we need is to get a solid color. Warm and rugged.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: star1151 on January 03, 2008, 04:06:09 AM
Quote from: RiverAux on January 03, 2008, 01:54:01 AM
Can only wear the golf shirt untucked except in hot weather while on flight line. 
citation - 39-1 Table 4-4.

Or if you're female and it hits no lower than mid-hip.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: jimmydeanno on January 03, 2008, 05:07:56 AM
Quote from: star1151 on January 03, 2008, 04:06:09 AM
Quote from: RiverAux on January 03, 2008, 01:54:01 AM
Can only wear the golf shirt untucked except in hot weather while on flight line. 
citation - 39-1 Table 4-4.

Or if you're female and it hits no lower than mid-hip.

We're not supposed to take that into account.  It is required that all uniform items that are worn by females be an afterthought.
Title: Re: Long Sleeve Golf Shirt - Oxymoron?
Post by: bosshawk on January 03, 2008, 06:03:15 AM
Seems to me that we need someone to step up to the plate and make a recommendation to the National Uniform Committee that we have a long-sleeved golf shirt(or polo or whatever you want to call it).  I have advocated such a move for about as long as I have been in CAP: I get cold in the winter and I wear the golf shirt about 98% of the time that I wear a CAP uniform. 

In my service with the local SAR team, I have a long-sleeved 5-11 knit shirt(call it a polo or golf, I don't care) and it is very comfortable. 

I know, some one of your wise acres will wonder(out loud) why I don't do what I suggested in my opening sentence.  I am up to my XXX in alligators with the CD program, that's why.