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Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: SDF_Specialist on October 18, 2007, 01:35:07 PM

Title: ACUT
Post by: SDF_Specialist on October 18, 2007, 01:35:07 PM
With the date of the release of the new Communications training material uncertain, I know that all of us Comm Instructors must still teach the current curriculum. I'm curious to know as to if the ACUT tests are the same for each Wing, or if they are written by the Wing Training Officer. If this is the same, does anyone have a copy of the test and answer key they can email me? If so, PM me for my CAP email address. Thanks!
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: mikeylikey on October 18, 2007, 02:04:23 PM
^ What is a Wing Training Officer?  Some Wings actually have these??
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: arajca on October 18, 2007, 02:17:29 PM
The ACUT test is produced by National and follows the same test control requirements as all other tests. Your Admin or Testing Off should be able to request them from National, along with the answer key. I recommend being listed as an Assistant/Alternate Testing Officer to properly follow the testing requirements.

That being said, the test has not been updated to reflect the new comm regs.
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: SDF_Specialist on October 18, 2007, 02:31:48 PM
Quote from: mikeylikey on October 18, 2007, 02:04:23 PM
^ What is a Wing Training Officer?  Some Wings actually have these??

The Wing Communications Training Officer. Yeah, Ohio has one. Great guy.

Arajca, thanks for the info. I will contact my Admin Officer to get him to request it.
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: MajorChuck on October 19, 2007, 12:49:18 AM
The ACUT test and Key has to be ordered thru E services. CC's have access to do this. Its the Same old tired test.....and it is making it hard to give a ACUT because You have to teach old,outdated stuff to get Them to pass test....
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: SarDragon on October 19, 2007, 01:06:26 AM
We changed the Qs that need fixed. They test the same basic info, but with updated answer chioces.  We used to just throw out the bad Qs, but then decided to update them instead. We figured it was a little application of (dare I say it?) common sense. That way we teach the right stuff, and then test their knowledge of it.
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: SDF_Specialist on October 19, 2007, 12:43:32 PM
I emailed the Comm Officer for a neighboring group. He's a friend of mine, and a cadet with me. His response was that the ACUT test is controlled just as any other test would be. For some reason or another, I never thought of that but it makes sense. So it's off to the commander's office I go to ask him to order those tests.
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: ThorntonOL on June 17, 2008, 09:53:57 PM
ACUT, I take it that that's the correct term for the ROA card Advanced?
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: ThorntonOL on June 17, 2008, 09:55:03 PM
If so how do you go about getting a replacement card for one that went through the wash and is no longer readable?
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: Pylon on June 17, 2008, 10:07:25 PM
Quote from: ThorntonOL on June 17, 2008, 09:53:57 PM
ACUT, I take it that that's the correct term for the ROA card Advanced?

It's the acronym for the training class through which you could achieve a CAP Radio Operator's Permit, Advanced.  It stood for Advanced Communications User Training.

Quote from: ThorntonOL on June 17, 2008, 09:55:03 PM
If so how do you go about getting a replacement card for one that went through the wash and is no longer readable?

Use your chain of command to request a replacement card from the issuing authority (Wing Director of Communications, I think?).
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: ThorntonOL on June 17, 2008, 10:23:05 PM
How much will it cost to replace?
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: SarDragon on June 17, 2008, 10:25:54 PM
Costs nothing.

If your wing uses the WMU, you can print your own and have your unit commander sign it. That's how we do it here. Nothing gets sent out other than an email listing the names of the latest folks to get issued cards.
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: ThorntonOL on June 17, 2008, 11:15:45 PM
WMU?
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: SarDragon on June 17, 2008, 11:18:19 PM
Wing Management Utility, online database that predates eServices. Some wings never got into it; apparently NYWG is in that category. You'll need to get with your DC folks to get a new card, then.
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: ThorntonOL on June 17, 2008, 11:40:01 PM
Yep, kinda found that out just now. Now dc?
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: SarDragon on June 18, 2008, 01:20:50 AM
DC = Wing Director of Communications, the folks who run the Comm program, including issuing ROA cards. You should probably go through your Group Com person first, though. CoC and all that stuff, you know.  ;)
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: JoeTomasone on June 18, 2008, 02:01:17 AM
And just 'cause this came up, the new ACUT exam has been published and is NO LONGER a controlled item, meaning that it does not have to be secured/administered by a Test Control Officer.    It is, however, obviously being distributed only to those who need it.

FLWG has a must-use date of 1 July for the new exam.

I am working on tweaking the slide deck we use for the new material.

And to answer the question above, go to your unit Comms officer for guidance.   In FLWG, the Group Comms Officer has issuing authority as delegated by the Wing Director of Communications, but in other Wings it may be different.


Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: ThorntonOL on June 18, 2008, 02:41:46 AM
Does this mean all of us who are Roa Advanced holders have to retake with this new exam and reg change or do we stay the same so to speak?
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: SDF_Specialist on June 18, 2008, 02:43:53 AM
Quote from: ThorntonOL on June 18, 2008, 02:41:46 AM
Does this mean all of us who are Roa Advanced holders have to retake with this new exam and reg change or do we stay the same so to speak?


We all will have to go through the new training. At least, that's what I've heard. It shouldn't be too hard. If you are a proficient radio operator, it won't be too much new stuff. However, I encourage taking notes on the new stuff.
Title: Re: ACUT
Post by: JoeTomasone on June 18, 2008, 04:26:43 AM

No, your ROA card is still valid - in FLWG anyway.  No reason it shouldn't be elsewhere as not much has changed on the exam.

As a communicator, you should certainly read up on the new 100-1 though.