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Title: Senior PT?
Post by: LittleIronPilot on October 10, 2007, 01:20:26 PM
I am a former Army Paratrooper that is still, despite my near decrepit age of 38 :D, in decent physical shape. I attribute this to a steady workout regime and decent diet.

Does any squadrons have a voluntary, notice I said voluntary, PT program? I was thinking of tossing one together, if nothing else something that would be used by the Seniors at their own pace at home and perhaps a Saturday or Sunday get-together if they wished.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: SDF_Specialist on October 10, 2007, 01:25:11 PM
Always a good idea, but never gets the participation it probably should. My unit had no problems with Officer joining the cadets in PT, and even assures that all Officers get a PT uniform. As far as having a seperate plan for the Officers, that would be a great idea. I know there would be no way to get 20 push-ups in one minute. Are you thinking of putting something together where Officers could gradually move up and do more over time? Or something like expectations like the cadets have? (I know that it wouldn't affect us PD wise)
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: jimmydeanno on October 10, 2007, 01:46:19 PM
VAWG does a "PT Challenge" every year to promote physical fitness.  Our squadron used to participate (before I transfered out).

http://www.vawg.cap.gov/cadet/pfc07/pfcmain.html

There is a word document about half-way down the page that describes the program.  Our seniors enjoyed doing it because they tended to have more will power to do things regularly.

It may be a good starting point for you.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: Walkman on October 10, 2007, 03:33:28 PM
I could use a little PT...

At least with me working for myself I'm not tempted by donuts at the office.  :D
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: Falshrmjgr on October 10, 2007, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: LittleIronPilot on October 10, 2007, 01:20:26 PM
I am a former Army Paratrooper that is still, despite my near decrepit age of 38 :D, in decent physical shape. I attribute this to a steady workout regime and decent diet.

Does any squadrons have a voluntary, notice I said voluntary, PT program? I was thinking of tossing one together, if nothing else something that would be used by the Seniors at their own pace at home and perhaps a Saturday or Sunday get-together if they wished.

Thoughts?

I resemble that remark.  37 YO Former Paratrooper.  ;D
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: MidwaySix on October 10, 2007, 05:34:08 PM
Quote from: LittleIronPilot on October 10, 2007, 01:20:26 PM
Thoughts?

There's always the Air Force Pararescue Physical Ability and Stamina Test (PAST)


http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/airforcejoin/a/parapast.htm (http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/airforcejoin/a/parapast.htm)

I post this because I found it interesting, not because I could do it!

But I did come up with a T-Shirt for folks interested in PT:

http://capblog.typepad.com/capblog/2006/04/fit_2_fly.html (http://capblog.typepad.com/capblog/2006/04/fit_2_fly.html)

YMMV

- M6
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: caplegalnc on October 10, 2007, 05:39:34 PM
As a 45 year old Chief Warrant Officer (with 27 years of service) I like the donut idea more than the PT idea.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: davedove on October 10, 2007, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: caplegalnc on October 10, 2007, 05:39:34 PM
As a 45 year old Chief Warrant Officer (with 27 years of service) I like the donut idea more than the PT idea.

No, no, donuts are too unhealthy.  You need to go with chocolate chip oatmeal cookies.  Chocolate has antioxidants and oatmeal is good for you, thus the cookies are healthy. ;D
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: jeders on October 10, 2007, 05:59:39 PM
Quote from: davedove on October 10, 2007, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: caplegalnc on October 10, 2007, 05:39:34 PM
As a 45 year old Chief Warrant Officer (with 27 years of service) I like the donut idea more than the PT idea.

No, no, donuts are too unhealthy.  You need to go with chocolate chip oatmeal cookies.  Chocolate has antioxidants and oatmeal is good for you, thus the cookies are healthy. ;D

Good enough excuse for me. ;D
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: Smokey on October 10, 2007, 06:11:25 PM
Note:  They are not , I repeat, not, donuts.

They are.......powerrings :D
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: Flying Pig on October 10, 2007, 06:16:43 PM
When I was the Dep for Cadets for Sq. 45 MARB and Sq. 59 at Hemet I did the PT test with the cadets every month.  As far as Senior PT....it could be fun, but just make sure you dont look down or penalize those who choose not to take part.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: Cadet Tillett on October 10, 2007, 06:17:42 PM
Quote from: davedove on October 10, 2007, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: caplegalnc on October 10, 2007, 05:39:34 PM
As a 45 year old Chief Warrant Officer (with 27 years of service) I like the donut idea more than the PT idea.

No, no, donuts are too unhealthy.  You need to go with chocolate chip oatmeal cookies.  Chocolate has antioxidants and oatmeal is good for you, thus the cookies are healthy. ;D

"Hello, I'd like 2 dozen of your. . .er. . .health food products!" :D
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: floridacyclist on October 10, 2007, 06:39:42 PM
Even at about 60 years old, Our leadership officer regularly smokes the cadets....but then he's also a semi-professional bicycle racer (which is how I met him and recruited him in with his son).

I mentioned Squadron PT as a healthy morning activity but was almost voted off the island.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: SarDragon on October 10, 2007, 07:34:29 PM
When I was in a unit with cadets, I used to go out and do PT with them. It was sad that an out of shape 54 yo SM could beat about half the cadets in the mile run. Of course, the other half smoked me big time - as low as a 5:30 mile against my 8:30 mile.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: Flying Pig on October 10, 2007, 11:07:34 PM
An 8:30 mile is actually pretty good for a cadet, not to mention a 54 yr old senior.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: SarDragon on October 10, 2007, 11:26:01 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on October 10, 2007, 11:07:34 PM
An 8:30 mile is actually pretty good for a cadet, not to mention a 54 yr old senior.

That's not good enough for a 12 yo (or older) male to pass the Mitchell PFT. The 17+ male time for Spaatz is 6:23.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: jimmydeanno on October 11, 2007, 01:01:53 AM
It's faster than a female cadet needs to earn her Spaatz...
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: SarDragon on October 11, 2007, 01:38:15 AM
I see that. Means nothing. That's why I said male cadets.

These times are based on 40 year old numbers. The system is flawed. Regardless, I think it's sad that I could outrun half the male cadets in my unit.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: Dustoff on October 11, 2007, 04:18:48 AM
Gee, I guess I should feel pretty good about the 8:50 pace on my PT test last month.  Not bad for 53!

(and you guys all thought I was a youngster - HA!)

BTW, my friends in the LE community tell me that those round things are actually called......

COP Vitamins

;D

Jim
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: DogCollar on October 11, 2007, 07:17:44 PM
Well, my poor knees and hip won't let me run anymore...but, I have been known to get down on the floor with the cadets and do push-ups with them.  They are usually amazed that this 47 year old chaplain can do as many as I do.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: LittleIronPilot on October 11, 2007, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on October 10, 2007, 06:16:43 PM
When I was the Dep for Cadets for Sq. 45 MARB and Sq. 59 at Hemet I did the PT test with the cadets every month.  As far as Senior PT....it could be fun, but just make sure you dont look down or penalize those who choose not to take part.

No penalization or "looking" down at anyone. Heck the first thing one of the seniors told me was basically "now at least the Cadets won't think we are all fat, old men....which we are!" LOL

I just wanted to get exercise and healthy living on peoples minds. Perhaps we will talk about it tonight after the meeting...over beers! hahahahaha
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: Major Carrales on October 11, 2007, 08:33:29 PM
I think it should be an optional movement in the CAP starting at the grassroots level.
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: Mike Goblet on October 11, 2007, 09:14:19 PM
Just for interest's sake, this link leads to an Excel spreadsheet the folks at CHairForce have posted. Look at your age group, and see how well you match up to what are presented as the current AF Physical Fitness Standards.

The file is clean, according to the CAP Official Virus Detector/Exterminator.

http://www.chairforce.com/fit2sit/fitcalc.xls
Title: Re: Senior PT?
Post by: caplegalnc on October 11, 2007, 11:45:49 PM
I have to do my USAR APFT on Saturday so I'll get to moan, groan, sweat and remeber how easy it was to do the 14:30  two mile run when I was young, dumb and still Infantry.