To date how many National cc have resigned and what have been the reasons?
Quote from: CAPLAW on August 07, 2007, 03:00:00 PM
To date how many National cc have resigned and what have been the reasons?
I think
NIXON is the only one.
Quote from: Skyray on August 08, 2007, 06:29:10 PM
Quote from: CAPLAW on August 07, 2007, 03:00:00 PM
To date how many National cc have resigned and what have been the reasons?
I think NIXON is the only one.
You learn something everyday. I was unaware that Nixon was the National Commander for CAP.
Obviously you were never a cadet and forced to learn the Chain of Command. He was the National CC for all of us.
I hate to tell you this, but the President has nothing to do with our CoC...
I was a cadet, and I learned my actual chain of command, not some made up one that people like to think...
He has no authority over any member of CAP in any circumstance. My CoC stops at the CAP National Commander - well now the National CV...
They had a different chain of command WIWAC and dinosaurs walked the earth. It started with the President of the United States and came down to my flight leader. Obviously Teflon Tony has divorced us from other roots than the Air Force.
Quote from: Skyray on August 08, 2007, 06:40:48 PM
Obviously you were never a cadet and forced to learn the Chain of Command. He was the National CC for all of us.
Actually I think I recall WIWAC 17 years ago that we did have to include POTUS in the CoC. But the memory is hazy lol.
Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 08, 2007, 06:46:42 PM
He has no authority over any member of CAP in any circumstance. My CoC stops at the CAP National Commander - well now the National CV...
So what happens when he tasks 1st AF to task us? (an obviously figurative statement) Then still no authority?
Last time I checked, POTUS WAS the National Commander in Chief. Differences of opinion on the CoC aside, the original question did not specify the CAP National CC
CAP Chain of Command Page: http://level2.cap.gov/visitors/organization/chain_of_command/
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Here is CAP's Chain of Command, in order:
National Commander
Region Commander
Wing Commander
Group Commander (for those wings with a Group structure)
Squadron Commander
Flight Commander
Quote from: floridacyclist on August 08, 2007, 06:59:00 PM
Last time I checked, POTUS WAS the National Commander in Chief. Differences of opinion on the CoC aside, the original question did not specify the CAP National CC
::) Come on now that's stretching it. Yes POTUS is the CinC. But seeing recent events and that it was posted on CAPTalk, I don't see where many people would thing he was talking about POTUS
Quote from: stillamarine on August 08, 2007, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: Skyray on August 08, 2007, 06:40:48 PM
Obviously you were never a cadet and forced to learn the Chain of Command. He was the National CC for all of us.
Actually I think I recall WIWAC 17 years ago that we did have to include POTUS in the CoC. But the memory is hazy lol.
You think
your memory is hazy? I was a cadet
47 years ago (1960). Just get a load of that uniform on my profile.
Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 08, 2007, 06:46:42 PM
I hate to tell you this, but the President has nothing to do with our CoC...
I was a cadet, and I learned my actual chain of command, not some made up one that people like to think...
He has no authority over any member of CAP in any circumstance. My CoC stops at the CAP National Commander - well now the National CV...
So if the POTUS was say touring a military base you happened to be on and told you to do something, you wouldn't do it? Would you tell him politely to tell the National Commander so he could send it through the CoC?
If it were my perogative, technically, I could, both as a CAP member and as a civilian that he is responsible to.
Quote from: ELTHunter on August 08, 2007, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 08, 2007, 06:46:42 PM
I hate to tell you this, but the President has nothing to do with our CoC...
I was a cadet, and I learned my actual chain of command, not some made up one that people like to think...
He has no authority over any member of CAP in any circumstance. My CoC stops at the CAP National Commander - well now the National CV...
So if the POTUS was say touring a military base you happened to be on and told you to do something, you wouldn't do it? Would you tell him politely to tell the National Commander so he could send it through the CoC?
Or you could ask him to call the NOC and have it go that way...I mean, you might as well get a CAPF 108 out of it, right? ;D
QuoteSo if the POTUS was say touring a military base you happened to be on and told you to do something, you wouldn't do it? Would you tell him politely to tell the National Commander so he could send it through the CoC?
Actually this is substantial thread divergence for a stupid joke, but the answer is that if POTUS were to task you, that is precisely what you are supposed to do. Maybe not the National Commander, but at least the RCC.
Uh, back on topic folks? ;)
Quote from: Pylon on August 08, 2007, 07:59:06 PM
Uh, back on topic folks? ;)
Back on topic, folks; it ain't gonna happen. I have known Tony for twenty years, and relinquishing power ain't in his nature.