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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: Eclipse on May 25, 2007, 07:47:47 PM

Title: capunits.com?
Post by: Eclipse on May 25, 2007, 07:47:47 PM
Any ideas what this is?  I got it this afternoon.

It looks like they scraped our Wing site and the info isn't even correct.

This smacks of search-poisoning, or similar.

Anyone know / seen this before?

Duane Corey's number comes back to a James Corey in AL.

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Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: sparks on May 25, 2007, 07:54:15 PM
Never heard of it. Could be a list but if it redirects someone from the ILWG site that's fishy. Does it effect just that site or the ILWG Blog too?
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: shorning on May 25, 2007, 07:56:13 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 25, 2007, 07:47:47 PM
Duane Corey's number comes back to a James Corey in AL.

Dustin Corey.  He is (or at least was) a CAP member that frequented another cadet-related forum.

I have to wonder how long before he received the C&D order.
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: sparks on May 25, 2007, 07:59:06 PM
OK, it doesn't redirect just relists information already on the wing web page. I didn't check whether there are any mistakes or intentional errors.
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: Eclipse on May 25, 2007, 08:18:19 PM
I just heard from him - apparently he's decided on his own recon to build "...a webpage that list all of the squadrons across the country, as well as encampments and other resources..."

Whats wrong w/ NHQ & Google?

I have no doubt its well-intentioned, but it is also unnecessary.  I have asked for my units to be removed.

The last thing we need are MORE sources of inaccurate information - my Group is due to have a new CC in 11 days, which means that his site will be inaccurate in that short time.
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: mikeylikey on May 25, 2007, 08:58:42 PM
Quote from: sparks on May 25, 2007, 07:59:06 PM
OK, it doesn't redirect just relists information already on the wing web page. I didn't check whether there are any mistakes or intentional errors.

When it goes to the page that recyles the webiste info, there is a link at the top that will take you to the CAP Units website.  This is not a bad idea, guess you IT types will need to keep the sites updated now!
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: sparks on May 25, 2007, 09:31:07 PM
Maybe the site should be renamed "Capnuts.com" . Cops have donuts we have..... oh well.
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: JC004 on May 25, 2007, 10:09:33 PM
I got one of these today too.  WTH?  I am planning to inquire with NHQ next week.
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: Al Sayre on May 25, 2007, 11:24:28 PM
I got it 2 or 3 weeks ago.  I checked out the site, it seem ok, and made sure the info was corrrect.  Anything that makes it easier to find my Squadron's web page other than a link on www.porno's-R-us or something is ok by me.
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: dwb on May 25, 2007, 11:48:29 PM
QuoteThis site best viewed at 800 x 600 minimum optimized for Internet Explorer
and may not display properly using other browsers like FireFox

I don't like it already!
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: JC004 on May 26, 2007, 01:07:24 AM
Quote from: justin_bailey on May 25, 2007, 11:48:29 PM
QuoteThis site best viewed at 800 x 600 minimum optimized for Internet Explorer
and may not display properly using other browsers like FireFox

I don't like it already!

Agree.  I missed that.  BURN IT TO THE GROUND!
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: Eclipse on May 26, 2007, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on May 25, 2007, 11:24:28 PM
I got it 2 or 3 weeks ago.  I checked out the site, it seem ok, and made sure the info was corrrect.  Anything that makes it easier to find my Squadron's web page other than a link on www.porno's-R-us or something is ok by me.

How does it make it easier to find your site?
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: RiverAux on May 28, 2007, 12:40:28 AM
At least it has the potential to make it easy to find CAP web pages.  CAP's own web site has made it harder unfortunately.  The way it is set up now is probably just fine for people thinking about joining CAP and who are looking for a nearby unit.  But, if you're just trying to find a CAP Wing or squadron web site it is almost impossible to do now. 
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: Eclipse on May 28, 2007, 04:02:50 PM
What's wrong with Google?
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: RiverAux on May 28, 2007, 04:51:39 PM
Sure, if you know the exact name of the unit you're trying to find.  But, say I'll like to look at all the web pages associated with a particular Wing its not going to be terribly easy to use google for that.  Sure, if the Wing happens to include links to squadron sites on their page you can start from there, but that isn't always a given. 

We had a generally user-friendly system and took a step backwards. 
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: Eclipse on May 28, 2007, 10:50:24 PM
I searched on "Civil Air Patol" - Google corrected my spelling.

The first link was NHQ, with a sub-heading of "Join".

I clicked "Join", and the top link on the menu was "Find Units Near Me".

I clicked,  entered my zip code, and chose "Within 50 Miles".

The next page displayed was every unit in NE ILWG (which I could narrow with a smaller radius).

What more do you want?
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: RiverAux on May 28, 2007, 11:33:16 PM
So, first I have to figure out what the zip code is of some city in the state to get the nearerst 10 units (or within 50 miles), then figure out another city in the other part of the state and do it again, compare the lists, etc., etc., etc.

All I'm asking is that they make it so we can search by State.  They've already got that as a parameter but make you pick a city first.  Easy, easy switch to make. 
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: Eclipse on May 29, 2007, 12:31:16 AM
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: JC004 on May 29, 2007, 01:27:20 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 29, 2007, 12:31:16 AM
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp

OK, nooow you're assuming that people know how to use the Interweb.
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: RiverAux on May 29, 2007, 02:05:41 AM
Sorry, I guess it was too much to ask to think that CAP could have a nice simple query that would show all the units in a state (like we had for years).  My mistake to think CAP's technological capabilities had advanced beyond about 1995.   
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: JC004 on May 29, 2007, 02:10:36 AM
Quote from: RiverAux on May 29, 2007, 02:05:41 AM
Sorry, I guess it was too much to ask to think that CAP could have a nice simple query that would show all the units in a state (like we had for years).  My mistake to think CAP's technological capabilities had advanced beyond about 1995.   

Well, here's the thing...when we advanced to contracting with this company for the unit locator, we eventually lost that list of all charter numbers, unit names, and locations.  I want it back, personally.
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: SarDragon on May 29, 2007, 06:53:29 AM
You mean this (http://level2.cap.gov/documents/Unit_Directory.pdf)?
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: Grumpy on May 29, 2007, 06:59:30 AM
How come you're listed as a Senior Member and not a Major, huh?

Guess who
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: SarDragon on May 29, 2007, 07:13:10 AM
Responded to by PM.
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: RiverAux on May 29, 2007, 12:44:58 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on May 29, 2007, 06:53:29 AM
You mean this (http://level2.cap.gov/documents/Unit_Directory.pdf)?
And where are the web page addresses associated with these squadrons that we had with the old unit finder?
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: Eagle400 on May 29, 2007, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: RiverAux on May 29, 2007, 12:44:58 PMAnd where are the web page addresses associated with these squadrons that we had with the old unit finder?

They can be found here (http://cap.findlocation.com/).  Just enter either a zip code or city and state.  Not all units have a webpage, however.   

It does seem odd that the unit directory (different than the unit finder) would not list webpages for units that have them.   
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: RiverAux on May 29, 2007, 01:31:43 PM
My point is that you shouldn't have to use multipe sites and documents to get information we used to have easy access to and that we could have again with a few simple programming changes. 

JC, all that information is in the CAPWATCH database now so I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to meld it together. 
Title: Re: capunits.com?
Post by: JC004 on May 29, 2007, 06:23:29 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on May 29, 2007, 06:53:29 AM
You mean this (http://level2.cap.gov/documents/Unit_Directory.pdf)?

No.  I meant the lists of all units (HTML) that were once on there.  It disappeared a while ago.  They made it easy for my purposes, especially to have the charter numbers all in front of me.  Probably better off with what we have now for external purposes, but internally, we made a lot of use of the other.