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Title: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Hyperion on June 22, 2016, 05:06:01 AM
Before people get mad, it's satire. It's actually caused a few airmen to message me with interest in CAP and how to join, surprisingly.

https://hyperionmight.com/2016/06/12/cap-officer-mistaken-for-usaf-officer/

Hyperion
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: grunt82abn on June 22, 2016, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: Hyperion on June 22, 2016, 05:06:01 AM
Before people get mad, it's satire. It's actually caused a few airmen to message me with interest in CAP and how to join, surprisingly.

https://hyperionmight.com/2016/06/12/cap-officer-mistaken-for-usaf-officer/

Hyperion

Hilarious!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: MHC5096 on June 22, 2016, 10:45:25 AM
Too [darn] funny!  :clap:
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Cliff_Chambliss on June 22, 2016, 12:57:47 PM
Sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on June 22, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
This is so funny!

But you just added to the folklore of "Enlisted saluting CAP officers..."

Since sometimes our members just scan messages and skip over some things...

But also I say, "Let them pay for not being through!"

Thanks for the morning laugh...

;D
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: NIN on June 22, 2016, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on June 22, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
This is so funny!

But you just added to the folklore of "Enlisted saluting CAP officers..."

Since sometimes our members just scan messages and skip over some things...

But also I say, "Let them pay for not being through!"

Thanks for the morning laugh...

;D

You do realize that's a satire site, right?

and not even geared toward CAP.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: jhighman on June 22, 2016, 01:44:36 PM
Quoteeating alone between the junior enlisted and NCO tables as neither group wanted to be affiliated with the E-4 Jr. NCO.

That's good stuff right there.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Hyperion on June 22, 2016, 08:31:07 PM
Thank you all for your interest! I just launched the website two days ago and it's very exciting seeing the reviews. I only have 3 articles so far but I'm hoping to make about 2 a week and include all the branches and auxiliaries. CAP will get some more love in the future, don't worry--it has a special place next to my heart especially with all the cadets.

Don't worry, I try and make the satire's source obvious with both the website headliner and the FB groups cover photo / official description to help people figure it out when reviewing the source. Also if someone spreads it seriously from only reading the header then it leaves themselves open to anyone who reads it calling them out for it for maximum group embarrassment!

If anyone has any questions, comments, or concerns about the website / articles, please let me know! This is brand new to me.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on June 22, 2016, 10:47:29 PM
Nin-

For your benefit I am re-posting my complete message.

Quote

This is so funny!

But you just added to the folklore of "Enlisted saluting CAP officers..."

Since sometimes our members just scan messages and skip over some things...

But also I say, "Let them pay for not being through!"

Thanks for the morning laugh...


You are precisely who I am talking about that "just scan messages."

Of course I understood it was satire.

My message was that "not many get when something is sarcasm and end up reporting a joke, satire, sarcasm as factual."
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: TheTravelingAirman on June 28, 2016, 01:45:17 AM
So I just completed the "Far East Encampment", an encampment put together for members of the Overseas Squadrons located at Osan AB in Korea, as well as Yokota AB, Kadena AB, and Misawa AB, all located in Japan. We had members from Osan, Kadena, and our hosts at Yokota (Tokyo) present.

There was endless saluting of CAP officers by enlisted persons, even Active Duty Senior NCOs. Nobody had any clue who we were, and the presence of the cadets did not help the situation. Our figuring was they thought we were foreign forces (happens a lot at Yokota) so they'd just salute and go about their day. Even better, the Japanese Self Defense Force enlisted folks recognize US officer rank, so we were getting confused  salutes from our allies. It happens guys.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: DakRadz on June 28, 2016, 01:47:14 AM
Quote from: TheTravelingAirman on June 28, 2016, 01:45:17 AM
So I just completed the "Far East Encampment", an encampment put together for members of the Overseas Squadrons located at Osan AB in Korea, as well as Yokota AB, Kadena AB, and Misawa AB, all located in Japan. We had members from Osan, Kadena, and our hosts at Yokota (Tokyo) present.

There was endless saluting of CAP officers by enlisted persons, even Active Duty Senior NCOs. Nobody had any clue who we were, and the presence of the cadets did not help the situation. Our figuring was they thought we were foreign forces (happens a lot at Yokota) so they'd just salute and go about their day. Even better, the Japanese Self Defense Force enlisted folks recognize US officer rank, so we were getting confused  salutes from our allies. It happens guys.

You realize that while not required, it is still entirely appropriate for CAP officers to be saluted?

It's not like saluting an NCO, which is a no-no. The military simply is allowed to choose, individually, whether to salute CAP officers.

~~~~
Wait, did you realize this was a satire article? That might be it.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: TheTravelingAirman on June 28, 2016, 01:56:30 AM
I know it's satire, but my point is it happens. I had a pretty hard time keeping my bearing with the looks of absolute confusion. I'm not saying they were wrong, at all. It's just that we're going to get saluted regardless, because there is a very small number of AD folks who know who we are, and that our officers aren't commissioned.

People are so officer-shy on a military installation, that from a road guard position I witnessed 2 SrA do a 180 and walk away from us to avoid saluting our Captain who was walking alongside the cadet flight marching to chow. Regardless of the article being satire, my point exists that people do it. Was I upset? No. Were they? No. They learned who we were and walked away slightly more educated, and I'd go so far as to say the Yokota folks have a few potential recruits because of that exposure, confusion or not. Don't be so quick to judge, please. I'm just trying to share what I found to be a humorous experience with a topic on the board.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: DakRadz on June 28, 2016, 02:13:01 AM
No judgement intended. I wasn't sure if that was meant as a humorous anecdote or not. Internet expressions and all.


The SrA part is great though. Having not been on many bases until after I was a cadet officer, I never thought of that being a "thing."
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: CAP_truth on July 10, 2016, 04:28:58 AM
Back in the day CAP officers were receiving salutes all the time while on military bases. Remember they are saluting the grade.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: PHall on July 10, 2016, 04:39:50 AM
Luis, getting a bit touchy these days? >:D
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on July 10, 2016, 05:28:48 AM
PH, you are very, very, very slow these days.

I answered on 22 June. You posted on 10 July.

It took you all this time to think such a little reply? Other times your reply has not been only almost instantaneous but it cut sharply!

What was the matter? A mission got you tired? So tired your mind is not as sharp now?

>:D
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Storm Chaser on July 10, 2016, 03:51:31 PM
At the last joint exercise I participated in, about a month an a half ago, Army Soldiers were rendering salutes to CAP officers in flight suits and BDUs. Did they do this by mistake? Who knows and who cares? Nothing prohibits a member of the Armed Forces from rendering salutes to CAP officers or a CAP officer from returning it. They're not required to salute us. We're not allowed to demand a salute from them. Anything else is just common sense and courtesy.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on July 10, 2016, 04:40:12 PM
Storm, great post.

Sharp, short, and direct.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: PHall on July 10, 2016, 05:37:41 PM
The "right" thing to do is to properly return any salute you get. Anything else is just bad taste.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Chappie on July 10, 2016, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on July 10, 2016, 05:28:48 AM
PH, you are very, very, very slow these days.

I answered on 22 June. You posted on 10 July.

It took you all this time to think such a little reply? Other times your reply has not been only almost instantaneous but it cut sharply!

What was the matter? A mission got you tired? So tired your mind is not as sharp now?

>:D

Swoop...here's come a Wingman :)   PH was a bit slow...because he was at Camp SLO working Encampment from 6/22-7/1.    It does take a bit of time to go through the various posts here are CAPTalk.   He was there 24/7, I was part-time evenings week-day and full-time on the week-end.   Cell coverage is spotty at times on Camp SLO.   Now that he is back...keep on your toes :)
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: LSW on July 13, 2016, 09:55:14 PM
I enjoyed it and I hope the web site really takes off for you, I will get around to the other two as well I am sure.

Talk about salute shy... In West Berlin we had Army, Air Force, Marines at the Embassy, British, French & Russians we had to look for and salute. I think we ignored the East German Military as they were not recognized. Only thing missing was the Bundeswehr. Our International Military parade you just started saluting anything foreign and shiny.

I look forward to more.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: Hyperion on July 13, 2016, 10:12:52 PM
Thanks, LSW! I do have plans for some other CAP related articles and so far I have at least one article for every branch. (Haven't figured out what to write about USCG Aux, USPHS, or NOAA Comissioned Corps yet though.)

If anyone has any suggestions on how to improve the site or my writing, I'm always open to suggestions. Thanks again for reading.
Title: Re: CAP Officer Mistaken for USAF Officer--Base Locked Downed to Investigate
Post by: LSW on July 13, 2016, 10:28:16 PM
I used to teach web accessibility for those with disabilities or just like using different user agents. I can give it a once over if you like for any accessibility issues, my first impression however was good.

Cheers mate!