Is it possible to split a squadron from a Composite to a senior squadron, and cadet squadron? Senior has about 40, and cadet has 35. Some years ago wing was big on combining squadron's. No reason why it should happen, just wondering if it could??
Of course it is possible, and maybe desired if the current squadron is getting too large to handle, or a large majority of the seniors wish to concentrate on Flying, CD missions, etc....
Thing is, administrative side still must be performed. Why split off just to perform "big guy" stuff?
Quote from: Rob the supply guy on May 31, 2016, 06:08:56 PM
Is it possible to split a squadron from a Composite to a senior squadron, and cadet squadron? Senior has about 40, and cadet has 35. Some years ago wing was big on combining squadron's. No reason why it should happen, just wondering if it could??
Is everyone meeting together? We are a composite squadron, but most of our regular meetings, we have the Seniors meeting on one room while the Cadets are meeting in another room. When we have guest speakers or special programs we combine. But being separate means we can concentrate on specifics, yet have the others nearby if needed for support, etc.
It is possible, and has been done in the past. But, and this is big, the total support staff structure now needs to be double, since both units will require each of the paper-pusher people - commander, safety, and finance at a minimum, and others like personnel, admin, AE, and pro dev as a start. Other requirements might be easier to juggle.
Yes they all meet on the same day. I was in one squadron where the cadets meet before the Seniors by 30 min to 45 before hand. Seniors more interested in flying then dealing with the cadets. Only a small hand full of seniors dealt with cadets.
Quote from: SarDragon on May 31, 2016, 06:21:39 PM
It is possible, and has been done in the past. But, and this is big, the total support staff structure now needs to be double, since both units will require each of the paper-pusher people - commander, safety, and finance at a minimum, and others like personnel, admin, AE, and pro dev as a start. Other requirements might be easier to juggle.
+1 - not to be undertaken lightly. 75 members is about what a unit should be.
Quote from: Rob the supply guy on May 31, 2016, 06:31:59 PM
Yes they all meet on the same day. I was in one squadron where the cadets meet before the Seniors by 30 min to 45 before hand. Seniors more interested in flying then dealing with the cadets. Only a small hand full of seniors dealt with cadets.
While it is possible to break into a Cadet and Senior squadron, what is the point? If you split you will have to find another commander and staff to support one of the new units. In most squadrons it is hard enough to find one person willing to command.
There is not really a benefit to splitting either. You can meet at different days/times/locations. I know of a good number of composite squadrons that have the Seniors meet at a different day and location than the cadets and SM cadet leadership.
I didn't want to get into why, Just wanted to know if it had been done. I also understand splitting times and locations too.
There are pros and cons, but it can be done. If your group and/or wing commander concur, and you have the necessary staff and logistics for the split, it's as simple as completing two CAPF 27s, one for a new charter and the other for the recharter of the existing unit.
Quote from: Storm Chaser on June 01, 2016, 12:18:49 AM
There are pros and cons, but it can be done. If your group and/or wing commander concur, and you have the necessary staff and logistics for the split, it's as simple as completing two CAPF 27s, one for a new charter and the other for the recharter of the existing unit.
You will also have to come up with a reasonable split of the funds, if not the original charter number will probably keep all the money.
I have been part of a composite unit where the seniors met twice a month and the cadets met weekly with the meetings taking place on the same day. Worked pretty well. I've also been part of a senior squadron that met at the same place as a cadet squadron, but they were two different units (there were some historical reasons for maintaining them as two different units).