Lately, I have been reviewing ICUT, and made a list of good prowords to use on the radio. However, every one says that the phrase, "Be Advised" is bad form. Why? I cant find a good reason online.
It / they are unnecessary filler words people use to sound official but which are redundant.
Be advised - http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=7205.msg (http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=7205.msg)
Mike
"Be advised, you're doing it wrong."
Be advised. Saying be advised sounds really good in scripts for movies and tv shows.
Quote from: coudano on April 14, 2016, 03:20:29 PM
Be advised. Saying be advised sounds really good in scripts for movies and tv shows.
Yea, that's a 10-4, Stand by to be advised that's a roger wilco!
Over and OUT!
http://www.afcea.org/content/?q=be-advised (http://www.afcea.org/content/?q=be-advised)
Be Advised
July 1, 2014
By Lt. Gen. Daniel P. Bolger, USA (Ret.)
You don't hear much old-school military radio traffic anymore. Except for a few front-line radio nets, most radio chatter has been replaced by the endless, silent interplay of text messages, emails and Web postings. With that shift, we have lost an entire dialect of martial radio-speak.
Sure, the approved terms—roger, wilco, prepare to copy, say again—remain in the training curricula.
But the unofficial lexicon has dried up. You rarely hear today's sergeants and lieutenants asking "how do you read this station?" That certainly is a tribute to the crystal clarity offered by modern digital equipment.
And you certainly never hear the old standby before rendering a report: "Be advised."
Nobody is advised of anything in today's U.S. armed forces. They already have read the text and have moved on.
Mike
Interrogatory: what did you do before?
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Ranks right up there with "For Your Information".
Be Advised: I will yell at anyone (curse silently) for using REPEAT on the radio, unless you are actually calling in an Artillery Strike.
Quote from: RogueLeader on April 14, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
Be Advised: I will yell at anyone (curse silently) for using REPEAT on the radio, unless you are actually calling in an Artillery Strike.
What's that? Retreat? Hell, we just got here!
Attention all post and patrols, be advised, reaper 8 had declared an in flight emergancy. Reaper 8 is currently inbound on final to runway 9. It has 2 souls, 1,000 pounds of munitions and 9,000 pounds of fuel onboard. How do you copy whisky one, bravo one, police one, defender one?
Heard all the goodies everyday at work! Miss those days...
Be advised this thread needs the Uniform touch. What else we need to do so?
For your information, the Communications Patch can be used by both seniors and cadets on their uniforms.
Can we repeat this several times?
THERE! Used THREE annoying words to turn this thread into an uniform thread!
Quote from: RogueLeader on April 14, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
Be Advised: I will yell at anyone (curse silently) for using REPEAT on the radio, unless you are actually calling in an Artillery Strike.
To this day it is hard for me to say "Repeat That?". I can only say "Say Again?".
I remember during a live training exercise I got to call in artillery. It was the greatest time to say the words "Repeat" and watching real artillery rain down on a tank position. Brings back fun memories.
Quote from: NCRblues on April 14, 2016, 09:41:35 PM
Attention all post and patrols, be advised, reaper 8 had declared an in flight emergancy. Reaper 8 is currently inbound on final to runway 9. It has 2 souls, 1,000 pounds of munitions and 9,000 pounds of fuel onboard. How do you copy whisky one, bravo one, police one, defender one?
Heard all the goodies everyday at work! Miss those days...
These days, "Reaper 8" would have zero souls on board, the pilot would be sitting in a comfy chair sipping chai latte flying via his datalink, and wouldn't engage in comm with the manned aircraft frantically maneuvering to avoid his blissfully ignorant UAV transiting their airspace.
"Twos Blind"!
- Spam
Quote from: sardak on April 14, 2016, 02:15:43 PM
Be advised - http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=7205.msg (http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=7205.msg)
Mike
That thread can't be 7 years old. Where does the time go?
Quote from: EMT-83 on April 14, 2016, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: sardak on April 14, 2016, 02:15:43 PM
Be advised - http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=7205.msg (http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=7205.msg)
Mike
That thread can't be 7 years old. Where does the time go?
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True.
Quote from: sardak on April 14, 2016, 04:22:58 PM
http://www.afcea.org/content/?q=be-advised (http://www.afcea.org/content/?q=be-advised)
Be Advised
July 1, 2014
By Lt. Gen. Daniel P. Bolger, USA (Ret.)
You don't hear much old-school military radio traffic anymore. Except for a few front-line radio nets, most radio chatter has been replaced by the endless, silent interplay of text messages, emails and Web postings. With that shift, we have lost an entire dialect of martial radio-speak.
Sure, the approved terms—roger, wilco, prepare to copy, say again—remain in the training curricula.
But the unofficial lexicon has dried up. You rarely hear today's sergeants and lieutenants asking "how do you read this station?" That certainly is a tribute to the crystal clarity offered by modern digital equipment.
And you certainly never hear the old standby before rendering a report: "Be advised."
Nobody is advised of anything in today's U.S. armed forces. They already have read the text and have moved on.
Mike
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Quote from: Spam on April 14, 2016, 10:29:23 PM
Quote from: NCRblues on April 14, 2016, 09:41:35 PM
Attention all post and patrols, be advised, reaper 8 had declared an in flight emergancy. Reaper 8 is currently inbound on final to runway 9. It has 2 souls, 1,000 pounds of munitions and 9,000 pounds of fuel onboard. How do you copy whisky one, bravo one, police one, defender one?
Heard all the goodies everyday at work! Miss those days...
These days, "Reaper 8" would have zero souls on board, the pilot would be sitting in a comfy chair sipping chai latte flying via his datalink, and wouldn't engage in comm with the manned aircraft frantically maneuvering to avoid his blissfully ignorant UAV transiting their airspace.
"Twos Blind"!
- Spam
Formation UAVs?
Quote from: Theodore on April 14, 2016, 01:31:19 PM
However, every one says that the phrase, "Be Advised" is bad form.
I've never thought it was bad form and I can't say that anyone I've met has been irritated at it either. There are so many other bad habits to break people out of that this is a non-issue in my book. I got laughed at many times at my first Volunteer Department when I was still active duty because I would call in "Engine Six-Zero-One" instead of the accepted "six-oh-one", I also can't get over "say again" instead of "repeat". I often use "be advised" when I have an addendum or am relaying, it gives the recipient a heads up and tells them to pay attention to pertinent information. I suppose it all comes down to where you learned your craft.
Per our GAWG Director of Communications this week, ""We've just been notified by the USAF Call Sign Manager that the GAWG call sign has been changed to LANDING GEAR effective immediately... It is befitting that "Landing Gear" has been assigned to the GA Wing, after all the landing gear carries the weight of the aircraft. Therefore, effective today we will no longer use GACAP".
Some of us initially thought this was a late April Fools joke, but it seems not so. One of my pilots (a Delta Captain, retired USAF C-130 driver and former cadet) commented that there'll be a lot of confusion on the radios as pilots from around the region start hearing "Landing Gear" – I think the appropriate response should be "Down – 3 Green".
So, I'll be ready to come back with a "BE ADVISED... "!
V/R
Spam
aka "GEAR 23", apparently...
In CAP's case "down and welded" seems more appropriate...
Quote from: Al Sayre on April 22, 2016, 07:57:52 PM
In CAP's case "down and welded" seems more appropriate...
Although I did MO in a 172RG once. "Hey, look out the window and make sure the gear is down."
Quote from: EMT-83 on April 22, 2016, 09:11:42 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on April 22, 2016, 07:57:52 PM
In CAP's case "down and welded" seems more appropriate...
Although I did MO in a 172RG once. "Hey, look out the window and make sure the gear is down."
Reminds me of the old joke "If you have to use full power to taxi, chances are good that you forgot to put the gear down".