Does anyone have a squadron decal or window sticker advertising their squadron? I was thinking of something like "Proud member of xyz squadron...Civil Air Patrol" with the squadron patch or cap emblem. I'm trying to use it as an advertising tool for recruitment purposes.
Vanguard has a generic "Proud of my CAP cadet" bumper sticker but I'd like something that advertises the squadron.
I'm also trying to be careful in regards to the 900-2 regarding usage of the seal/emblem/logo.
Thanks!
Yeah, 900-2 is tricky. I'll work on it, see what I can get.
Don't put the CAP Seal on it. Use your squadron patch instead.
Quote from: PHall on September 11, 2015, 03:28:33 AM
Don't put the CAP Seal on it. Use your squadron patch instead.
And at a group or wing activity, we end up with a parking lot full of cars with CAP bumper stickers with a dozen different logos. Ahh, which one of you are the
real CAP??
CAPR 900-2, para 3f is quite clear: use the CAP logo (triangle with Civil Air Patrol) for recruiting items like this. Branding should be the same across the CAP.
Quote from: AdAstra on September 11, 2015, 03:39:37 AM
Quote from: PHall on September 11, 2015, 03:28:33 AM
Don't put the CAP Seal on it. Use your squadron patch instead.
And at a group or wing activity, we end up with a parking lot full of cars with CAP bumper stickers with a dozen different logos. Ahh, which one of you are the real CAP??
CAPR 900-2, para 3f is quite clear: use the CAP logo (triangle with Civil Air Patrol) for recruiting items like this. Branding should be the same across the CAP.
Indeed. Someone local to me suggested putting a wrap on our CAP van with art evocative of our heritage like this classic CAP poster (http://caphistory.org/images/museum_store/poster.jpg), but that wasn't approved.
Sometimes I feel like CAP needs an outside marketing arm.
That'd be awesome. I'm surprised something couldn't be done there, doesn't every branch of service do something similar? The Army has a top fuel dragster for pete's sake. I know I've seen a few Hummers wrapped in a military advertisement.
Obviously Wing and maybe NHQ would need to sign off on it but it seems like something that would of been doable.
Quote from: xray328 on September 11, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
That'd be awesome. I'm surprised something couldn't be done there, doesn't every branch of service do something similar? The Army has a top fuel dragster for pete's sake. I know I've seen a few Hummers wrapped in a military advertisement.
Obviously Wing and maybe NHQ would need to sign off on it but it seems like something that would of been doable.
I used a similar argument, but what it came down to IIRC was:
Those advertisement vehicles are literally used for advertisement. The corporate vehicle is used on missions, and adverts on a mission vehicle don't fly.
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: xray328 on September 11, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
That'd be awesome. I'm surprised something couldn't be done there, doesn't every branch of service do something similar? The Army has a top fuel dragster for pete's sake. I know I've seen a few Hummers wrapped in a military advertisement.
Obviously Wing and maybe NHQ would need to sign off on it but it seems like something that would of been doable.
I used a similar argument, but what it came down to IIRC was:
Those advertisement vehicles are literally used for advertisement. The corporate vehicle is used on missions, and adverts on a mission vehicle don't fly.
In addition to this...
Is this the corporate vehicle or a personal vehicle regularly used for CAP? Like did you want a decal sticker or a big magnet that's easily removable?
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 11, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: xray328 on September 11, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
That'd be awesome. I'm surprised something couldn't be done there, doesn't every branch of service do something similar? The Army has a top fuel dragster for pete's sake. I know I've seen a few Hummers wrapped in a military advertisement.
Obviously Wing and maybe NHQ would need to sign off on it but it seems like something that would of been doable.
I used a similar argument, but what it came down to IIRC was:
Those advertisement vehicles are literally used for advertisement. The corporate vehicle is used on missions, and adverts on a mission vehicle don't fly.
In addition to this...
Is this the corporate vehicle or a personal vehicle regularly used for CAP? Like did you want a decal sticker or a big magnet that's easily removable?
The discussion was a vehicle wrap on the corporate van.
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 11, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: xray328 on September 11, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
That'd be awesome. I'm surprised something couldn't be done there, doesn't every branch of service do something similar? The Army has a top fuel dragster for pete's sake. I know I've seen a few Hummers wrapped in a military advertisement.
Obviously Wing and maybe NHQ would need to sign off on it but it seems like something that would of been doable.
I used a similar argument, but what it came down to IIRC was:
Those advertisement vehicles are literally used for advertisement. The corporate vehicle is used on missions, and adverts on a mission vehicle don't fly.
In addition to this...
Is this the corporate vehicle or a personal vehicle regularly used for CAP? Like did you want a decal sticker or a big magnet that's easily removable?
The discussion was a vehicle wrap on the corporate van.
Ah, well, in that case, no-go with 900-2. It's always worth trying to get approval. Can't hurt to ask. But very unlikely.
Although, that would be a great recruiting tool at events; probably not worth the money for the return investment though.
Definitely not going to happen as a squadron-specific advert.
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 11, 2015, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 11, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: xray328 on September 11, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
That'd be awesome. I'm surprised something couldn't be done there, doesn't every branch of service do something similar? The Army has a top fuel dragster for pete's sake. I know I've seen a few Hummers wrapped in a military advertisement.
Obviously Wing and maybe NHQ would need to sign off on it but it seems like something that would of been doable.
I used a similar argument, but what it came down to IIRC was:
Those advertisement vehicles are literally used for advertisement. The corporate vehicle is used on missions, and adverts on a mission vehicle don't fly.
In addition to this...
Is this the corporate vehicle or a personal vehicle regularly used for CAP? Like did you want a decal sticker or a big magnet that's easily removable?
The discussion was a vehicle wrap on the corporate van.
Ah, well, in that case, no-go with 900-2. It's always worth trying to get approval. Can't hurt to ask. But very unlikely.
Although, that would be a great recruiting tool at events; probably not worth the money for the return investment though.
Definitely not going to happen as a squadron-specific advert.
Indeed. But I can't help but think it would have looked REALLY COOL! :D
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 11, 2015, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 11, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: xray328 on September 11, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
That'd be awesome. I'm surprised something couldn't be done there, doesn't every branch of service do something similar? The Army has a top fuel dragster for pete's sake. I know I've seen a few Hummers wrapped in a military advertisement.
Obviously Wing and maybe NHQ would need to sign off on it but it seems like something that would of been doable.
I used a similar argument, but what it came down to IIRC was:
Those advertisement vehicles are literally used for advertisement. The corporate vehicle is used on missions, and adverts on a mission vehicle don't fly.
In addition to this...
Is this the corporate vehicle or a personal vehicle regularly used for CAP? Like did you want a decal sticker or a big magnet that's easily removable?
The discussion was a vehicle wrap on the corporate van.
Ah, well, in that case, no-go with 900-2. It's always worth trying to get approval. Can't hurt to ask. But very unlikely.
Although, that would be a great recruiting tool at events; probably not worth the money for the return investment though.
Definitely not going to happen as a squadron-specific advert.
Indeed. But I can't help but think it would have looked REALLY COOL! :D
Probably would, but I understand why CAP has rules on this: to protect the integrity of the organization when it comes to branding so that people don't misrepresent CAP.
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 11, 2015, 05:50:22 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 11, 2015, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 11, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on September 11, 2015, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: xray328 on September 11, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
That'd be awesome. I'm surprised something couldn't be done there, doesn't every branch of service do something similar? The Army has a top fuel dragster for pete's sake. I know I've seen a few Hummers wrapped in a military advertisement.
Obviously Wing and maybe NHQ would need to sign off on it but it seems like something that would of been doable.
I used a similar argument, but what it came down to IIRC was:
Those advertisement vehicles are literally used for advertisement. The corporate vehicle is used on missions, and adverts on a mission vehicle don't fly.
In addition to this...
Is this the corporate vehicle or a personal vehicle regularly used for CAP? Like did you want a decal sticker or a big magnet that's easily removable?
The discussion was a vehicle wrap on the corporate van.
Ah, well, in that case, no-go with 900-2. It's always worth trying to get approval. Can't hurt to ask. But very unlikely.
Although, that would be a great recruiting tool at events; probably not worth the money for the return investment though.
Definitely not going to happen as a squadron-specific advert.
Indeed. But I can't help but think it would have looked REALLY COOL! :D
Probably would, but I understand why CAP has rules on this: to protect the integrity of the organization when it comes to branding so that people don't misrepresent CAP.
But people do it anyway. Misrepresent CAP, that is. Why do we punish those that have honest motives when it solves nothing????? Society's eternal question.......
(http://i.imgur.com/3lVYNbL.jpg?1)
This.
Quote from: SamuelRosinsky on September 14, 2015, 02:53:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3lVYNbL.jpg?1)
This.
Can't see the picture.
Quote from: C/Maj Kiss on September 11, 2015, 11:10:40 PM
But people do it anyway. Misrepresent CAP, that is. Why do we punish those that have honest motives when it solves nothing????? Society's eternal question.......
Because a few people, even with the best intentions, can screw it up for everyone.
CAP's Board of Governors has a vision and mission statement that they are trying to uphold. They have certain expectations and policies to help support the CAP mission, and that includes recruiting in a manner that protects CAP's image. They may not always, in our opinion, provide the best means of protecting that image, such as with some of those outdated videos they put out, but that doesn't mean you make your own video and release it without CAP's approval just because you can do it better and know it will work. The same goes with posters and vehicle decals.
Unfortunately, this can cause delays in getting things approved sometimes, and maybe our ideas don't always get the recognition by Top that we would like, but in the end, we don't have the authority on it and the guys up there do.
Discipline: The instant willing obedience to orders, respect for authority, and self-reliance.
http://imgur.com/J4Ra8NW (http://imgur.com/J4Ra8NW)
Quote from: SamuelRosinsky on September 14, 2015, 03:22:05 PM
http://imgur.com/J4Ra8NW (http://imgur.com/J4Ra8NW)
Ah, that explains it.
Imgur's blocked at my office ::) :P
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 14, 2015, 03:31:28 PM
Quote from: SamuelRosinsky on September 14, 2015, 03:22:05 PM
http://imgur.com/J4Ra8NW (http://imgur.com/J4Ra8NW)
Ah, that explains it.
Imgur's blocked at my office ::) :P
Sam's original post was missing the link, anyway. :o
Quote from: SarDragon on September 14, 2015, 09:22:34 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 14, 2015, 03:31:28 PM
Quote from: SamuelRosinsky on September 14, 2015, 03:22:05 PM
http://imgur.com/J4Ra8NW (http://imgur.com/J4Ra8NW)
Ah, that explains it.
Imgur's blocked at my office ::) :P
Sam's original post was missing the link, anyway. :o
It showed up fine for me! :'(
Strange. :-[
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 14, 2015, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: SamuelRosinsky on September 14, 2015, 02:53:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3lVYNbL.jpg?1)
This.
Can't see the picture.
Quote from: C/Maj Kiss on September 11, 2015, 11:10:40 PM
But people do it anyway. Misrepresent CAP, that is. Why do we punish those that have honest motives when it solves nothing????? Society's eternal question.......
Because a few people, even with the best intentions, can screw it up for everyone.
CAP's Board of Governors has a vision and mission statement that they are trying to uphold. They have certain expectations and policies to help support the CAP mission, and that includes recruiting in a manner that protects CAP's image. They may not always, in our opinion, provide the best means of protecting that image, such as with some of those outdated videos they put out, but that doesn't mean you make your own video and release it without CAP's approval just because you can do it better and know it will work. The same goes with posters and vehicle decals.
Unfortunately, this can cause delays in getting things approved sometimes, and maybe our ideas don't always get the recognition by Top that we would like, but in the end, we don't have the authority on it and the guys up there do.
Discipline: The instant willing obedience to orders, respect for authority, and self-reliance.
Oh no, I'm not saying we should do stuff outside the regs because we feel we deserve to. I'm just saying that it is disappointing that such stringent regulations have to be in effect in the first place.
Quote from: C/Maj Kiss on September 15, 2015, 01:35:20 AM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 14, 2015, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: SamuelRosinsky on September 14, 2015, 02:53:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3lVYNbL.jpg?1)
This.
Can't see the picture.
Quote from: C/Maj Kiss on September 11, 2015, 11:10:40 PM
But people do it anyway. Misrepresent CAP, that is. Why do we punish those that have honest motives when it solves nothing????? Society's eternal question.......
Because a few people, even with the best intentions, can screw it up for everyone.
CAP's Board of Governors has a vision and mission statement that they are trying to uphold. They have certain expectations and policies to help support the CAP mission, and that includes recruiting in a manner that protects CAP's image. They may not always, in our opinion, provide the best means of protecting that image, such as with some of those outdated videos they put out, but that doesn't mean you make your own video and release it without CAP's approval just because you can do it better and know it will work. The same goes with posters and vehicle decals.
Unfortunately, this can cause delays in getting things approved sometimes, and maybe our ideas don't always get the recognition by Top that we would like, but in the end, we don't have the authority on it and the guys up there do.
Discipline: The instant willing obedience to orders, respect for authority, and self-reliance.
Oh no, I'm not saying we should do stuff outside the regs because we feel we deserve to. I'm just saying that it is disappointing that such stringent regulations have to be in effect in the first place.
I agree. It sucks that we sometimes have these awesome ideas that actually work out for the better, but it's the times when people have screwed things up in the past that have led to this.
Think of all of the stupid, common-sense safety briefs that have been done over the years because someone screwed up once. Think of all of the regs that have come out of a single stupid occurrence that could have been easily avoided.