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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: Cliff_Chambliss on February 22, 2015, 05:31:40 PM

Title: Aviation Film Clips from long ago
Post by: Cliff_Chambliss on February 22, 2015, 05:31:40 PM
From aerobatics in a Ford Tri-motor, to early a 1950's missile tests, to early USAF Newsreels, a good way to waste several hours looking at yesteryear.

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Title: Re: Aviation Film Clips from long ago
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on February 22, 2015, 05:48:49 PM
Nice clip collection, thanks for posting it.

Watched the video of the airplane crash into the Midway while attempting to land.

Made me wonder what would be the procedure when a carrier deck is fouled up after an accident of that kind, with other acft in a landing pattern?

Would the person in charge of Air Ops, (would that be designated the Air Boss?) make a direct request to another carrier to take over landing ops for that carrier?

Or would the Air Ops guy have to "recommend or suggest" that the Senior Officer of that damaged carrier seek support from other carriers, and that senior officer grant approval before diverting incoming aircraft?

Lastly I saw the video without sound. Did Cmdr Duncan survive?
Title: Re: Aviation Film Clips from long ago
Post by: SarDragon on February 22, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
Frequently, there's not another carrier available. First priority is to get the flight deck landing area clear. If that's going to take a while, they get a tanker, or two, in the air, and keep everyone else flying. Sometimes there's already one up there.
Title: Re: Aviation Film Clips from long ago
Post by: NIN on February 22, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on February 22, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
Frequently, there's not another carrier available. First priority is to get the flight deck landing area clear. If that's going to take a while, they get a tanker, or two, in the air, and keep everyone else flying. Sometimes there's already one up there.

Back in those days, carriers tended to travel in little packs, versus a single-carrier-based "Battle group"

IIRC, that was the 2nd F9F carrier landing in 1951 during carrier suitability testing, so Cdr Duncan was the only guy in the pattern.

Nobody else had to worry about going around/orbiting.

And in 1951, AR wasn't even a thing for Navy jets
Title: Re: Aviation Film Clips from long ago
Post by: Private Investigator on February 22, 2015, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on February 22, 2015, 05:48:49 PM
Lastly I saw the video without sound. Did Cmdr Duncan survive?

George Duncan as a Captain, commanded the carrier USS Ranger, a coveted assignment and a fitting capstone to a distinguished naval career. He retired from the Navy in 1968 and went into law. He passed away in 1995. He had 13.5 air kills and was awarded Navy Cross, Silver Star, DFC among others. He graduated from the Naval Academy in 1939.   
Title: Re: Aviation Film Clips from long ago
Post by: SarDragon on February 23, 2015, 03:31:11 AM
Quote from: NIN on February 22, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on February 22, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
Frequently, there's not another carrier available. First priority is to get the flight deck landing area clear. If that's going to take a while, they get a tanker, or two, in the air, and keep everyone else flying. Sometimes there's already one up there.

Back in those days, carriers tended to travel in little packs, versus a single-carrier-based "Battle group"

IIRC, that was the 2nd F9F carrier landing in 1951 during carrier suitability testing, so Cdr Duncan was the only guy in the pattern.

Nobody else had to worry about going around/orbiting.

And in 1951, AR wasn't even a thing for Navy jets

It was getting close. Tests were done on the Panther, and most of the Cougars were IFR-equipped.

I wonder what they were testing; the Panther was operational throughout the Korean War.

BTW, a different view of that crash was used in The Hunt For Red October.
Title: Re: Aviation Film Clips from long ago
Post by: NIN on February 23, 2015, 11:50:53 AM
In watching that video, the Cutlass that came aboard just before the Panther looked like he was going to eat the ramp as well
Title: Re: Aviation Film Clips from long ago
Post by: PHall on February 24, 2015, 03:17:11 AM
Quote from: NIN on February 23, 2015, 11:50:53 AM
In watching that video, the Cutlass that came aboard just before the Panther looked like he was going to eat the ramp as well

It ain't called the "Ramp Monster" for nothing!
Title: Re: Aviation Film Clips from long ago
Post by: SarDragon on February 24, 2015, 03:21:54 AM
Gutless Cutlass