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Cadet Programs => Cadet Programs Management & Activities => Topic started by: C/JoeP on February 17, 2015, 05:38:10 PM

Title: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: C/JoeP on February 17, 2015, 05:38:10 PM
Reply yes or no: Have you ever taken an open-book CAP test without critically reading and studying all the related materials first?. Please be incredibly honest, and remember that the results are anonymous
Title: Re: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: DoubleSecret on February 17, 2015, 05:39:57 PM
It's hardly anonymous if one is a known poster, is it?
Title: Re: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: Capt Thompson on February 17, 2015, 06:12:06 PM
Set up a survey monkey survey or google form and post the link. If you do a google form you can have the results auto populate on a spreadsheet.
Title: Re: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on February 17, 2015, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: C/JoeP on February 17, 2015, 05:38:10 PM
Reply yes or no: Have you ever taken an open-book CAP test without critically reading and studying all the related materials first?. Please be incredibly honest, and remember that the results are anonymous


I'm a testing officer. Let me answer that for you: Yes, cadets do it all the time.


What's the point of this survey? CAC proposal to change back to the old system?


As many others, I was against this policy at first, but lets face it, breeze all you want, but the milestones will stump you (and so will your performance as a cadet leader).
Title: Re: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: RangerConlin on February 17, 2015, 06:53:59 PM
Agreed.  It's very obvious who skims the tests just to pass and who actually works on it.
Title: Re: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on February 17, 2015, 07:03:38 PM
Quote from: RangerConlin on February 17, 2015, 06:53:59 PM
Agreed.  It's very obvious who skims the tests just to pass and who actually works on it.


Being a product of L2KB, The L2L books were new to me.


I was able to (as a SM TO) take the online tests with the .PDFs open and the search function:
L1: 84%
L2: 96% (results at 10:06)
L3: 92% (results at 10:25)


Those last 2 were done same day.


But I bet the WBA would make me pause without actually reading the material. ;)
Title: Re: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: LSThiker on February 17, 2015, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: C/JoeP on February 17, 2015, 05:38:10 PM
Reply yes or no: Have you ever taken an open-book CAP test without critically reading and studying all the related materials first?. Please be incredibly honest, and remember that the results are anonymous

I was not subject to the open-book CAP tests so I cannot say regarding to that.  However, I will be honest and say that I have done it plenty of times.  Especially when it comes to mandatory training tests for my hospital or the Army.  Usually I already know the material well enough that it is not necessary. 
Title: Re: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: CadetSnuffy on February 17, 2015, 08:56:02 PM
Although I would not recommend it... yes, I took one of the aerospace modules, "space environment" without reading the material first. To my defense, I already knew everything presented in the module anyway. (and happened to get a 100% on the test) I would never survive doing the same for any of the leadership tests though. It is never a good idea to skip reading the material, even if you know you can pass anyway. Doing so robs you of additional learning. You can never know enough.
Title: Re: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: Holding Pattern on February 18, 2015, 10:59:02 PM
Quote from: S/M Thompson on February 17, 2015, 06:12:06 PM
Set up a survey monkey survey or google form and post the link. If you do a google form you can have the results auto populate on a spreadsheet.

In an effort to remind people that we have access to REALLY COOL TOOLS!, I've created the survey using Google Forms.

Survey (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1dqeOTSDgFcztrLei3Ww3FqOx-TD0BpYzZSuGLNC7Xr8/viewform?usp=send_form)
Title: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: Storm Chaser on February 19, 2015, 01:30:34 PM
You're missing an important follow up question on your survey.

"If so, did you pass?"
Title: Re: Survey for CAC Proposal being written
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on February 19, 2015, 02:40:43 PM
OP hasn't posted again...