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General Discussion => Membership => Topic started by: joeshrimpman on August 03, 2014, 07:58:42 PM

Title: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: joeshrimpman on August 03, 2014, 07:58:42 PM
Can you join CAP if convicted of a Petty Misdemeaner 35 yrs ago?
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on August 03, 2014, 08:19:06 PM
I will guardedly say yes - providing you are honest about it when you fill out your membership application.

CAP does not want people with felony convictions, especially those of a sexual offence nature.

However, if it is only a misdemeanour from that long ago, it may or may not pop up on the FBI check...but in case it does, again, be honest.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Eclipse on August 03, 2014, 09:06:16 PM
^ Yep.  Maybe.

Be honest on the forms and when asked.

A minor offense indicated is better then a minor one found.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: PHall on August 03, 2014, 09:19:15 PM
Just make sure you list it on your membership application. There is a block for that.
A 35 year old misdemeanor shouldn't be a problem, if you "own" it and list it on your membership application.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on August 03, 2014, 10:10:32 PM
As I used to tell police applicants filling out their background forms:

"You'd be surprised at the flexibility we have to forgive certain things when we look at the whole person. But one thing we will not forgive is if you lie to us."
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Garibaldi on August 04, 2014, 12:59:15 PM
When I went into AFROTC, the one thing they harped on constantly was integrity. They bounced a bunch of people because of lies of omission. And the one thing that was said to us was, "if they had mentioned it prior to signing..."
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Flying Pig on August 04, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
I don't see it being the slightest bit of an issue.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on August 04, 2014, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on August 04, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
I don't see it being the slightest bit of an issue.

Nor do I, as long as the person owns up to it.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: MSG Mac on August 04, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
CAP does recognize what I would call  acts of youthful stupidity. If it didn't involve moral turpitude, violence, or something of a similar ilk, you should be o.k.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: JeffDG on August 04, 2014, 06:00:17 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on August 04, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
CAP does recognize what I would call  acts of youthful stupidity. If it didn't involve moral turpitude, violence, or something of a similar ilk, you should be o.k.

You realize that "moral turpitude" involves things like "shoplifting", right?
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: MSG Mac on August 04, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Moral turpitude as sexual in nature.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: joeshrimpman on August 04, 2014, 08:48:31 PM
Thank you.  I have know problem owning it.  I was allowed in the Air Force I disclosrd everything.  I work at the Airport for the department of transportation and I have an yearly FBI backgrond check and monthly drug testing.  Due to also having to work in U.S. Customs and immigration.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: JeffDG on August 04, 2014, 09:02:18 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on August 04, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Moral turpitude as sexual in nature.

Crimes involving moral turpitude has a specific meaning, and includes such things as fraud, forgery and theft (provided you intend to keep what you steal, so shoplifting is, taking a car for a joyride is not).
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Eclipse on August 04, 2014, 10:51:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude)

"Moral turpitude is a legal concept in the United States and some other countries that refers to "conduct that is considered contrary to community standards of justice, honesty or good morals."
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: JeffDG on August 05, 2014, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on August 04, 2014, 10:51:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude)

"Moral turpitude is a legal concept in the United States and some other countries that refers to "conduct that is considered contrary to community standards of justice, honesty or good morals."

Honesty is the one that encompasses theft and fraud.

I had to swear on my I-485 that I had never committed a Crime Involving Moral Turpitude, and I actually took the time to research what I was swearing to.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: AirAux on August 05, 2014, 01:03:22 AM
Had a senior member disclose he had served time for vehicular homicide.  He was accepted..
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Private Investigator on August 05, 2014, 04:57:44 AM
Every Wing I am sure has former felons that got accepted by appealing to NHQ.  8)
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Devil Doc on August 05, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
I got arrested for being Awesome, I still got accepted.  :P
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: JeffDG on August 05, 2014, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: Devil Doc on August 05, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
I got arrested for being Awesome, I still got accepted.  :P

Depending on the state, I believe the legal term for that is either "Disorderly Conduct" or "Public Intoxication".  >:D
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Flying Pig on August 05, 2014, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: Devil Doc on August 05, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
I got arrested for being Awesome, I still got accepted.  :P

You should sue for false arrest...you'd win hands down!
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Devil Doc on August 05, 2014, 05:19:29 PM
Maybe it was the Fashion Police? Oh well, They tied me up and everything, I think they liked it too much? Hey, Wait one Minute, I dont think they werent real officers at all, Where is my Lawyer!! Dont tell Mom.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Eclipse on August 05, 2014, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Devil Doc on August 05, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
I got arrested for being Awesome, I still got accepted.  :P

Thrown out for lack of evidence.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on August 06, 2014, 04:38:58 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on August 05, 2014, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Devil Doc on August 05, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
I got arrested for being Awesome, I still got accepted.  :P

Thrown out for lack of evidence.

Case dismissed, Your Honour.
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Panache on August 06, 2014, 05:23:01 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on August 05, 2014, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Devil Doc on August 05, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
I got arrested for being Awesome, I still got accepted.  :P

Thrown out for lack of evidence.

False arrest?
Title: Re: Conviction of Petty Misdemeaner Smoking marijuana
Post by: Devil Doc on August 06, 2014, 01:16:31 PM
Thanks for the Support Guys, your so Kind.