Electronically fill-able from the links below, but beyond that, it's been a while since I processed one so
no idea what has changed.
Senior: http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/F012_15378C3760422.pdf (http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/F012_15378C3760422.pdf)
Cadet: http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/F015_9C2337B9FC619.pdf (http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/F015_9C2337B9FC619.pdf)
For the Senior app, it looks like just some changes to the "Voluntary Statistical Information".
Old: "Black(Not of Hispanic Origin)"
New: "Afro-American"
Old: "Asian/Pacific Islander"
New: "Asian" and "Pacific Islander" are now two separate check-boxes.
Old: "American Indian/Alaskan Native"
New: "American Indian" and "Alaskan Native" are now two separate check-boxes.
(If "Black" was changed to "Afro-American", shouldn't "White" be changed to "European-American"?)
The Income check-boxes were deleted.
That's the only changes I see.
Euro-American.
That's part of the problem with these box checks. Honestly they should just do away with it all together, especially if it's for no reason other than research.
Fun story: I have a white friend born and raised in South Africa, now with US citizenship. She checks African-American as it is literally the truth. Once, when asked her race at the DMV, she responded as such. The confused employee looked at her and asked "does that mean you're black?"
^^ HAAAAAA.... I have a friend also who is from South Africa and he does the same thing. He was at the CA DMV and a supervisor actually tried to make him change it to White or Caucasian. When he refused she made the comment "These forms aren't designed for you to make political statements" and walked away. He decided to just laugh it off vs. report her. And he walked out an official African American. In CA your race isn't on you license, but it is on your info.
Did they adopt the Facebook list of 58 potential genders?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/02/heres-a-list-of-58-gender-options-for-facebook-users/ (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/02/heres-a-list-of-58-gender-options-for-facebook-users/)
There should be a "They" box. That way whenever "they" tell me to do something, Ill know who Im talking about.
Quote from: JeffDG on February 27, 2014, 07:22:05 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on February 27, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
Euro-American.
What if you're not American?
People from your homeland who have taken out U.S. citizenship, like Alex Trebek, Michael J Fox, Jim Carrey and Pamela Anderson, often refer to themselves as "Canadian-Americans."
Conversely, those Yanks who have taken out Canadian citizenship, like Melissa Sue Anderson ("Little House on the Prairie" and one of my earliest TV star crushes ;D), Lauren Holly ("Picket Fences") and George A Romero ("Night of the Living Dead"), call themselves "American-Canadians."
Personally, I think those race/ethnicity check boxes are silly. I am a mixture of (mostly) Swiss-German (some of whom emigrated to Canada)/Scots-Irish/Alsatian/Norman. Those all happen to be in Europe, nonetheless I don't think "European" is a good catch-all category, as those often have very different bloodlines (Germanic/Celtic/Scandinavian).
General Colin Powell is often called "African-American," which is somewhat inaccurate as his ancestry is mostly Jamaican.
For example, this is an "African-American" by that definition:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Charlize_Theron_WonderCon_2012_%28Straighten_Crop%29.jpg/220px-Charlize_Theron_WonderCon_2012_%28Straighten_Crop%29.jpg)
Quote from: CyBorg on February 27, 2014, 08:17:04 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on February 27, 2014, 07:22:05 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on February 27, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
Euro-American.
What if you're not American?
People from your homeland who have taken out U.S. citizenship, like Alex Trebek, Michael J Fox, Jim Carrey and Pamela Anderson, often refer to themselves as "Canadian-Americans."
I'm not a US citizen.
Quote from: JeffDG on February 27, 2014, 09:01:07 PM
Quote from: CyBorg on February 27, 2014, 08:17:04 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on February 27, 2014, 07:22:05 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on February 27, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
Euro-American.
What if you're not American?
People from your homeland who have taken out U.S. citizenship, like Alex Trebek, Michael J Fox, Jim Carrey and Pamela Anderson, often refer to themselves as "Canadian-Americans."
I'm not a US citizen.
I know. Those were just examples.
I often call myself "North American," because to me it's terribly chauvinistic of we Yanks to lay claim to the exclusive title of "American," given that, by geography, anyone from the continents of North America and South America are "Americans."
I do not feel any such compunction.
Because our calling ourselves Americans comes from the name of the country. United States of America. Not from the name of the continent. If any other country in the Americas had named their country with the "America" as part of the country name, then they could use "American" to refer to themselves.
Canada of America? Not! Just Canada.
Chile de America? Not! Just Chile.
Brazil de America? Not! Just Brazil.
Mexico de America? Not! Just Mexico.
That is why they are "Chileans" or "Brazilians." Chilenos or Brazilenos. Or Mejicanos.
So are you proposing we now start calling ourselves "Statesians?" Not!
And in Europe, some may call themselves "Europeans," but you hear mostly "French," "Belgian," Etc. Derived from the country name. Not from the name of the continent.
And although I am Puerto Rican, I am an American. Not because I am from Puerto Rico which is in the Americas, but because I live in the US of America.
::)
Flyer
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
I do not feel any such compunction.
Because our calling ourselves Americans comes from the name of the country. United States of America. Not from the name of the continent. If any other country in the Americas had named their country with the "America" as part of the country name, then they could use "American" to refer to themselves.
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
Canada of America? Not! Just Canada.
Dominion of Canada, though it's not used a lot these days. Originally British North America.
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
Chile de America? Not! Just Chile.
República de Chile.
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
Brazil de America? Not! Just Brazil.
República Federativa do Brasil.
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
Mexico de America? Not! Just Mexico.
Estados Unidos Mexicanos.
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
That is why they are "Chileans" or "Brazilians." Chilenos or Brazilenos. Or Mejicanos.
Who are all, geographically, Americans. However, although Hawaiians are U.S. citizens, geographically they are not Americans. They would be Polynesians.
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
So are you proposing we now start calling ourselves "Statesians?" Not!
Some of my Canadian cousins call us "Statesers," but I also hear "Yanks" there a lot, mostly as a pejorative. "USians" has also been suggested.
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
And in Europe, some may call themselves "Europeans," but you hear mostly "French," "Belgian," Etc. Derived from the country name. Not from the name of the continent.
I find that increasingly, on the Continent, younger people do use "European." However, the British are stubbornly (and unsurprisingly) retaining "British" (or "English," "Scottish," "Welsh," "Northern Irish/Ulster"). A friend of mine there was livid when British passports started being printed with "European Union" on them.
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
And although I am Puerto Rican, I am an American. Not because I am from Puerto Rico which is in the Americas, but because I live in the US of America.
I grew up around quite a few Puerto Ricans. Most that I knew would lay claim to the title "American" because of
both citizenship and location.
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
So are you proposing we now start calling ourselves "Statesians?" Not!
Well y'all certainly can't lay claim to being great hockey players after being shut out of the medals in Sichi
That's Sochi.
Quote from: JeffDG on February 28, 2014, 03:34:47 AM
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
So are you proposing we now start calling ourselves "Statesians?" Not!
Well y'all certainly can't lay claim to being great hockey players after being shut out of the medals in Sichi
'Neither can the Russians! >:D
Quote from: JeffDG on February 27, 2014, 08:59:57 PM
For example, this is an "African-American" by that definition:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Charlize_Theron_WonderCon_2012_%28Straighten_Crop%29.jpg/220px-Charlize_Theron_WonderCon_2012_%28Straighten_Crop%29.jpg)
Ethnically, I do not consider her African. As a descendent of colonists, she is more properly European/Caucasian, since she has French, Dutch, and German ancestry. That would also apply to UH60guy's white friend.
Quote from: Panache on February 27, 2014, 05:42:04 AM
For the Senior app, it looks like just some changes to the "Voluntary Statistical Information".
Old: "Black(Not of Hispanic Origin)"
New: "Afro-American"
Old: "Asian/Pacific Islander"
New: "Asian" and "Pacific Islander" are now two separate check-boxes.
Old: "American Indian/Alaskan Native"
New: "American Indian" and "Alaskan Native" are now two separate check-boxes.
(If "Black" was changed to "Afro-American", shouldn't "White" be changed to "European-American"?)
The Income check-boxes were deleted.
That's the only changes I see.
Afro-American! Really!! Whats wrong with just black? Afro is a hair style NOT a ethnicity or ethnic group. . .
I imagine that "Afro-American" is more politically correct and less likely to offend the Perpetually Outraged (which come is all races and ethnic groups) even if "Black (non-Hispanic)" was more accurate.
Quote from: SarDragon on February 28, 2014, 06:05:22 AM
Ethnically, I do not consider her African. As a descendent of colonists, she is more properly European/Caucasian, since she has French, Dutch, and German ancestry. That would also apply to UH60guy's white friend.
And we are all descendants of colonists that originated in Africa. Thereby, we are all in a way African. Out of all of these ethnicity vs. nationality debates, the one thing that always gets me is these terms are made up. There is no actual scientific basis for them. They are what we want them to mean.
Quote from: CyBorg on February 28, 2014, 02:32:29 AM
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
Who are all, geographically, Americans. However, although Hawaiians are U.S. citizens, geographically they are not Americans. They would be Polynesians.
....
I grew up around quite a few Puerto Ricans. Most that I knew would lay claim to the title "American" because of both citizenship and location.
Cyborg,
Thank you very much, your mention of the Hawaiians reinforces my points. Use of the word
"American" is not based on geography but on the name of the country. And I left out the entire name of each country just because I knew that none of those country names includes
America. As to Puerto Ricans calling themselves
Americanos, at some point the school system may have missed the boat and changed. But that is my point of view. my El-Hi education was in Puerto Rico, from the Puerto Rico Dept of Education. And after finalizing it, I came to the realization, that Americans called themselves
Americans not because of geography but because of it being a part of the country name.
But I am 59 years old, and it appears I am mostly alone in this... soon others will start saying "you are ranting like an old man..." ???
Quote from: flyer333555 on February 28, 2014, 11:12:25 PM
But I am 59 years old, and it appears I am mostly alone in this... soon others will start saying "you are ranting like an old man..." ???
Nah. I'm really not a lot younger than you. Rant on. 8)